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      Dear Brits

      I have just heard the news about the Brexit vote going in favour of leaving the EU. Bit of a surprise I gather. I was just wondering did Paul ever express any opinion on it. Because he did express his view on the Scottish independence vote. I don't think anything has been mentioned about it on this board.

        He did, was asked in recent interviews about it. He gave a diplomatic answer as usual, that he hadn't decided yet and that both sides have good points.

          http://www.leparisien.fr/musique/paul-mccartney-je-vais-au-supermarche-comme-tout-le-monde-30-05-2016-5841429.php

          "It's crazy in England at the moment. Everyone I talk to goes from one extreme to the other. I'm the same; I haven't decided yet. I keep listening to the arguments, the reasons to stay or leave. But I'm sure the best decision will be taken in a month."

            http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/britain-takes-unprecedented-step-to-leave-eu-markets-plunge/ar-AAhvpYk?li=BBnb7Kz

            The exchange rate was $1.44 last week and now is about $1.35. Great for me as an American going to England in August, but bad for the Brits. Big mistake to leave the EU imho.

              nobodytoldme: http://www.leparisien.fr/musique/paul-mccartney-je-vais-au-supermarche-comme-tout-le-monde-30-05-2016-5841429.php

              "It's crazy in England at the moment. Everyone I talk to goes from one extreme to the other. I'm the same; I haven't decided yet. I keep listening to the arguments, the reasons to stay or leave. But I'm sure the best decision will be taken in a month."

              Interesting that at that time he was wavering so much. I was thinking he would be the kind to want to stay in. Like he wanted Scotland to stay in the UK. Sort of a sixties communal attitude if you know what I mean.

                This vote is a disaster. Some things you don't leave to popular vote. As a whole people aren't educated enough to know what's best. Leave some things to the economists. Get ready to lose a lot of money no matter where you live.

                  prudence1964:This vote is a disaster. Some things you don't leave to popular vote. As a whole people aren't educated enough to know what's best. Leave some things to the economists. Get ready to lose a lot of money no matter where you live.

                  Short term pain,long term gain which is why the vote to leave was the right one. Interesting that Paul has basically sat on the fence on this one though. Maybe he simply didn't want to alienate anyone?

                    The Pound is Sinking....

                    Great song.

                      nobodytoldme: http://www.leparisien.fr/musique/paul-mccartney-je-vais-au-supermarche-comme-tout-le-monde-30-05-2016-5841429.php

                      "It's crazy in England at the moment. Everyone I talk to goes from one extreme to the other. I'm the same; I haven't decided yet. I keep listening to the arguments, the reasons to stay or leave. But I'm sure the best decision will be taken in a month."

                      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/event/article-3623830/We-hiding-hotel-room-got-pretty-drunk-told-John-love-man-Booze-Brexit-Bond-Beatle-bromance-John-magical-history-tour-Sir-Paul-McCartney.html

                      "While in espionage mode, McCartney reveals that he has been engaged in top secret talks with a former school friend, now a political journalist. Subject: Brexit. 'This guy made a very interesting point,' McCartney expands. 'If you look at the history of Europe, there's nothing but wars. World War II, World War I, then you go back, the Franco-Prussian, the Hundred Years' War. We have now had a prolonged period of peace, so that seems to me like the best reason to be in a united affair. But I'm still on the fence, at the minute. I'm being pulled left and right.'"

                        His brother Mike voted Remain...

                        https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ClpEKQXWIAAN372.jpg:large

                          I suspect Paul voted to remain. Mary posted a picture hinting that she was unhappy with the outcome so it sounds like the McCartneys were largely in the remain camp.

                            prudence1964:This vote is a disaster. Some things you don't leave to popular vote. As a whole people aren't educated enough to know what's best. Leave some things to the economists. Get ready to lose a lot of money no matter where you live.

                            Correct.

                            'Power to the People", in the ideological sense.

                            But, nup, this sort of decision best left to the best educated on economics.

                            Which shouldn't include Average Joe and Average Jo.

                            Another reason "Flower Power" could never work.

                            Going to be an interesting time.

                              I do find it strange it's the people who don't even live in the UK (or Europe for that matter) that in this thread seem to be saying it's a disaster and that we're all too thick/naive to be allowed that choice...

                              Can i just say people voted not just about money - it's not all about money. Many were sick of the EU making rules, such as the lightbulbs, vacs, with hair dryers next! Would you in the states like another body tell you you could no longer make or sell a vacuum cleaner that is any more powerful than 1600 watts with a 900 watts rule to come next year?! https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/21/anger-as-eu-bans-most-powerful-vacuum-cleaners Most people were 2100 btw..

                              Anyway, little things like that have piled up, many feel so pissed off with the EU setting up rules and laws for the UK, rather than allow our own leaders to do so.

                              Not saying what i voted for, just cos i did this post doesn't mean i was out, nor in, but just wanted to point out it's not all about the pound. The pound will come back up again in time.

                                Eeee Cor Blimey:I do find it strange it's the people who don't even live in the UK (or Europe for that matter) that in this thread seem to be saying it's a disaster and that we're all too thick/naive to be allowed that choice...

                                Can i just say people voted not just about money - it's not all about money. Many were sick of the EU making rules, such as the lightbulbs, vacs, with hair dryers next! Would you in the states like another body tell you you could no longer make or sell a vacuum cleaner that is any more powerful than 1600 watts with a 900 watts rule to come next year?! https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/21/anger-as-eu-bans-most-powerful-vacuum-cleaners Most people were 2100 btw..

                                Anyway, little things like that have piled up, many feel so pissed off with the EU setting up rules and laws for the UK, rather than allow our own leaders to do so.

                                Not saying what i voted for, just cos i did this post doesn't mean i was out, nor in, but just wanted to point out it's not all about the pound. The pound will come back up again in time.

                                This happens in the U.S. all the time. Especially laws about stricter environmental standards, plumbing standards, Air conditioning standards, more efficient lightbulbs, appliances, you name it. Most of it starts in California, and eventually the rest of the U.S. will follow. It's been happening here for years. That's what the EU is all about. Being a union, not separate. I think it's too bad the vote was to separate, and will not be good for Britain in the long run.

                                  What's worse is that it was the younger population that voted to remain, while the senior generation was the one who pushed the vote to leave. It's not ironic that most of the economic hardship will be felt by the younger generation and not the older generation. The older generation pensions will probably be safe in In the short-term, while millennials can look forward to less pensions, higher taxes, less jobs etc. The UK population already asking for a revote. A disaster plain and simple.
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                                    JoeySmith:What's worse is that it was the younger population that voted to remain, while the senior generation was the one who pushed the vote to leave. It's not ironic that most of the economic hardship will be felt by the younger generation and not the older generation. The older generation pensions will probably be safe in In the short-term, while millennials can look forward to less pensions, higher taxes, less jobs etc. The UK population already asking for a revote. A disaster plain and simple.
                                    .

                                    Maybe they should've cared more then. While 82% of the 55+ people went out to vote, only 36% of the 18-24 year olds could be bothered... An ~involved Facebook discussion~ didn't turn out to be enough, ay...

                                      beatlesfanrandy:

                                      Eeee Cor Blimey:I do find it strange it's the people who don't even live in the UK (or Europe for that matter) that in this thread seem to be saying it's a disaster and that we're all too thick/naive to be allowed that choice...

                                      Can i just say people voted not just about money - it's not all about money. Many were sick of the EU making rules, such as the lightbulbs, vacs, with hair dryers next! Would you in the states like another body tell you you could no longer make or sell a vacuum cleaner that is any more powerful than 1600 watts with a 900 watts rule to come next year?! https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/21/anger-as-eu-bans-most-powerful-vacuum-cleaners Most people were 2100 btw..

                                      Anyway, little things like that have piled up, many feel so pissed off with the EU setting up rules and laws for the UK, rather than allow our own leaders to do so.

                                      Not saying what i voted for, just cos i did this post doesn't mean i was out, nor in, but just wanted to point out it's not all about the pound. The pound will come back up again in time.

                                      This happens in the U.S. all the time. Especially laws about stricter environmental standards, plumbing standards, Air conditioning standards, more efficient lightbulbs, appliances, you name it. Most of it starts in California, and eventually the rest of the U.S. will follow. It's been happening here for years. That's what the EU is all about. Being a union, not separate. I think it's too bad the vote was to separate, and will not be good for Britain in the long run.

                                      Yes but that is your own country making your own laws. Not the same thing at all as a continent setting laws for an individual country. If people don't live here they don't get it..

                                      (edit to add your post though to me goes and shows what i feel many in the states have thought for years - which is they think of the US and all it's states as the same as Europe and all it's countries. We are countries, independent countries..)

                                        JoeySmith:. The UK population already asking for a revote. A disaster plain and simple.
                                        .

                                        nearly 18 million voted to leave, 16 million voted to stay... so 2 million facebook users (of the 16 who wanted to stay) asking for a revote isn't exactly going do anything.

                                        everyone knew what was at stake with the vote - and there was a clear majority, and people just need to get over it and start to work forwards.

                                          beatlesfanrandy:

                                          Eeee Cor Blimey:I do find it strange it's the people who don't even live in the UK (or Europe for that matter) that in this thread seem to be saying it's a disaster and that we're all too thick/naive to be allowed that choice...

                                          Can i just say people voted not just about money - it's not all about money. Many were sick of the EU making rules, such as the lightbulbs, vacs, with hair dryers next! Would you in the states like another body tell you you could no longer make or sell a vacuum cleaner that is any more powerful than 1600 watts with a 900 watts rule to come next year?! https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/21/anger-as-eu-bans-most-powerful-vacuum-cleaners Most people were 2100 btw..

                                          Anyway, little things like that have piled up, many feel so pissed off with the EU setting up rules and laws for the UK, rather than allow our own leaders to do so.

                                          Not saying what i voted for, just cos i did this post doesn't mean i was out, nor in, but just wanted to point out it's not all about the pound. The pound will come back up again in time.

                                          This happens in the U.S. all the time. Especially laws about stricter environmental standards, plumbing standards, Air conditioning standards, more efficient lightbulbs, appliances, you name it. Most of it starts in California, and eventually the rest of the U.S. will follow. It's been happening here for years. That's what the EU is all about. Being a union, not separate. I think it's too bad the vote was to separate, and will not be good for Britain in the long run.

                                          Unfortunately we don't have that chance here, you can't choose on this subject by referendum in Italy.
                                          Your democracy is just so far ahead.
                                          Anyway ... we had a good chance to buy beatles memorabilia at a very good price on june 24 ;)

                                            Eeee Cor Blimey:Yes but that is your own country making your own laws. Not the same thing at all as a continent setting laws for an individual country. If people don't live here they don't get it..

                                            (edit to add your post though to me goes and shows what i feel many in the states have thought for years - which is they think of the US and all it's states as the same as Europe and all it's countries. We are countries, independent countries..)

                                            A lot of Americans consider their state a separate, independent country, and don't like the federal government making laws for them.

                                            Part of the US had a brexit in 1860. I guess it would be a sexit. It didn't work out too well.

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