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The 2012 and beyond Political Thread - Part 2

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      21st Century Paul:

      audi:
      audi:
      mustangsally10:
      audi:
      mustangsally10:
      audi:The latest on today's Supreme Court "Obamacare" ruling...

      ...upheld!!!!!

      The individual mandate has been re-defined as a tax.

      Victory for the Obama administration.

      Conservatives lost big on this one.


      Saved Detroit, killed Bin Laden passed Health Care

      A little celebratory music

      http://youtu.be/BO8nlZKrVi4

      http://youtu.be/sVzvRsl4rEM

      Have to include

      http://youtu.be/2TbZPiwyX1k

      3 PERFECT choices!!!

      And, yeah...I'm sure our President is wonderin'...

      ...how ya' like me NOW, beee-atches!???

      OK -- back to my sane self.

      After all, as Speaker Boehner mandated: No spiking the ball.

      Oops!

      We forgot one key song that really sums it up for the GOP:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMpXAknykeg

      Who wrote that?

      Co-written by Eric Cantor/John Boehner/Joseph Scalia

        david cameron is a cock....obama is a fool...george bush is a monster....tony blair is a murderer....and osama bin laden is dead [maybe]

          I'm sure you have your reasons, LazyD. You always do.

            21st Century Paul:

            The_Fool:I should feel honored that a thread I started grew as it did -- I thank all of you who contributed ---> even if I don't agree with you at all
            So good luck in it continuing in part II .....
            *Remember to change the year .... if it does continue .....

            I don't like to leave things for the future so I've already done it. Is that ok?

            This wasn't just meant for you 21st ...... I don't agree with many of the posters in this thread ....
            right now I am thinking .... Vote them all out! (The Politicians who are suppose to be representing the people who they work for ... not just their own special interests).

              It's not a tax ....

              http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0909/27384.html

                President Obama's remarks on Supreme Court Health Care decision

                http://youtu.be/b5zU1y_0Geo

                The new health care law even helps me and I'm healthy and never get sick. But now routine exams and tests that are preventive do not have a co-pay. on my insurance plan.. So that encourages people to get the preventive care tests so that problems are picked up early which saves lives and lots of health care money. which will help to decrease overall health care costs

                It will probably help everyone whether they like the law or not

                  The_Fool:It's not a tax ....

                  http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0909/27384.html

                  It is, it is - says the Supremes

                  "Now, going into the election, President Obama has his law and now he must live with it. He must own it. And he must be judged for the massive taxes his law will levy on innocent Americans." ~~~ Charles Hurt

                    Andy_Shofar:

                    The_Fool:It's not a tax ....

                    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0909/27384.html

                    It is, it is - says the Supremes

                    "Now, going into the election, President Obama has his law and now he must live with it. He must own it. And he must be judged for the massive taxes his law will levy on innocent Americans." ~~~ Charles Hurt

                    This is correct - Obama's rhetoric since day one was that the mandate did not describe a tax, but rather a penalty/fine. The SC decision indicated that the constitutionality of it was based on the fact that it is indeed a tax..and between being lied to and now having to suck it up and take another round of premium increases, I'm sure this will be largely in Romney's favor come November

                      Good to see all your heads exploding

                      You're getting your info. from rush again shame on you

                      There is a difference between something being a tax and being permissible under congress' taxing authority. No, this is not a massive tax increase on the American people. It's a penalty paid by people who choose not to purchase insurance but can afford it.

                      And what's (way, way) more, most of the federal spending for the ACA is in tax credits for middle class people to help them afford insurance. Which is actually more like a tax cut.

                      It the same way that mittens expanded health coverage in MA. If you don't buy health insurance in Massachusetts, guess what? You pay a penalty.

                      Here's mittens explaining it for you

                      http://www.usatoday.com/printedition/news/20090730/column30_st.art.htm

                      Don't you just love your nominee he's one of us

                      He's lying when he says he would repeal ACA...you guys don't believe that do you : : : :

                      http://youtu.be/bxch-yi14BE

                        The glaring difference between mittens and the President

                        http://youtu.be/aoeq82Crp9s

                        Here mittens trying to convince you all to vote against your own interests...and you do it....pathetic

                          mustangsally10: Good to see all your heads exploding

                          Exploding? We're thrilled that this will be the final nail in Obama's proverbial coffin...only one third of the country supported this bill prior to today's ruling...and no one changed their mind since...Millions of dollars of campaign money was sent to Romney's compaign in the wake of this decision...and it's on tape that Obama lied about this in an attempt to sway congress as well as the court of public opinion...

                          Besides we also got the Holder thing in our pocket now as well...it wouldn't matter if the case was dropped tomorrow, we hooked that lying killing bastage with a legit contempt charge. And Obama threw his hat in that ring after he felt it necessary to apply an executive order (to cover up a murder or such a badly botched and contrived plan, it might as well be murder)...all because Obama has a love affair with illegal aliens

                            audi:

                            21st Century Paul:
                            audi:
                            audi:
                            mustangsally10:
                            audi:
                            mustangsally10:
                            audi:The latest on today's Supreme Court "Obamacare" ruling...

                            ...upheld!!!!!

                            The individual mandate has been re-defined as a tax.

                            Victory for the Obama administration.

                            Conservatives lost big on this one.


                            Saved Detroit, killed Bin Laden passed Health Care

                            A little celebratory music

                            http://youtu.be/BO8nlZKrVi4

                            http://youtu.be/sVzvRsl4rEM

                            Have to include

                            http://youtu.be/2TbZPiwyX1k

                            3 PERFECT choices!!!

                            And, yeah...I'm sure our President is wonderin'...

                            ...how ya' like me NOW, beee-atches!???

                            OK -- back to my sane self.

                            After all, as Speaker Boehner mandated: No spiking the ball.

                            Oops!

                            We forgot one key song that really sums it up for the GOP:

                            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMpXAknykeg

                            Who wrote that?

                            Co-written by Eric Cantor/John Boehner/Joseph Scalia

                            3 guys for writing 4 notes?

                              The_Fool:

                              21st Century Paul:
                              The_Fool:I should feel honored that a thread I started grew as it did -- I thank all of you who contributed ---> even if I don't agree with you at all
                              So good luck in it continuing in part II .....
                              *Remember to change the year .... if it does continue .....

                              I don't like to leave things for the future so I've already done it. Is that ok?

                              This wasn't just meant for you 21st ...... I don't agree with many of the posters in this thread ....
                              right now I am thinking .... Vote them all out! (The Politicians who are suppose to be representing the people who they work for ... not just their own special interests).

                              well it's me who had to change the title, as I've done the first post, that's what I meant

                              yes, of course, vote them all out! I don't think it's going to happen... my fav Simpson episode...

                              Believe it or not I can't find it in English
                              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_bIP58O5-w

                                I'm not gonna bother you with lots of links, cause the info is on mass-media (except for the USA, I think).

                                They've done (for the first time ever) what Soros said.

                                  audi:I'm sure you have your reasons, LazyD. You always do.

                                  dont get me wrong 'audi' mate..i liked 'obama'.
                                  infact out of the sorry list i named hes easily the most decent .
                                  however he has seriously dissapointed me.lets just say i expected so much more..i really thought he might have been the most important head of state for decades.however like all the rest he is just hot air and custard creams.

                                    oobu24:Why couldn't the original thread just have pages cut from it like other threads?

                                    There were too many thread started on various topics and we forced to have one thread to talk about any thing political. So like health reform bill, certain headlines about a politician and or any thread that talked about something other than How Cute Paul is goes here.

                                      Andy_Shofar:

                                      The_Fool:It's not a tax ....

                                      http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0909/27384.html

                                      It is, it is - says the Supremes

                                      "Now, going into the election, President Obama has his law and now he must live with it. He must own it. And he must be judged for the massive taxes his law will levy on innocent Americans." ~~~ Charles Hurt

                                      Well american get something for this tax. The next tax that needs to happen so all you Rep can owning what your party has done to this nation is a war tax.

                                      than we can see the real waste and profits being made from the Rep leaders and their backers.

                                        All my friends and I think pretty much all of us are going . This is a good thing....I think.

                                        I can tell you some changes that will happen. a cap on profits. 15%. which is way to high. Realtor make 6% builders 13% So why do paper pushers who are t middle men make 15% to do nothing but set disturbing of money.

                                        We be much better having a one payer system.

                                        The Rep response are a joke. Its a tax it tax. Well than so is car insurances.
                                        Because if you caught without it your fined.

                                        Right now the self employed pay for everyone.

                                          appletart2:

                                          oobu24:Why couldn't the original thread just have pages cut from it like other threads?

                                          There were too many thread started on various topics and we forced to have one thread to talk about any thing political. So like health reform bill, certain headlines about a politician and or any thread that talked about something other than How Cute Paul is goes here.

                                          You totally misunderstood what I said. I meant the original political thread could have been trimmed.

                                          doesn't really matter anyway.

                                            Oh Happy Day The US joins civilized nations

                                            Here's what affects you now that Obamacare has survived!

                                            1) Insurance companies can no longer impose lifetime coverage limits on your insurance. Never again will you face the risk of getting really sick and then, a few months in, having your insurer tell you, "Sorry, you've 'run out' of coverage."

                                            2) Lifetime and annual caps will eliminated entirely by 2014!.

                                            3) Insurers can no longer tell kids with preexisting conditions that they'll insure them "except for" the preexisting condition. That's called preexisting condition exclusion, and it's out the window.

                                            4) A special, temporary program will help adults with preexisting conditions get coverage. It expires in 2014, when the health insurance exchanges?basically big "pools" of businesses and individuals?come on-line. That's when all insurers will have to cover everyone, preexisting condition or not.

                                            5) Insurance companies can't drop you when you get sick, either?this plan means the end of "rescissions." This is HUGE!

                                            6) You can stay on your parents' insurance until you're 26.

                                            7) Begin of the end of the 'doughnut hole' in senior prescription coverage

                                            Medicare's preventive benefits now come with a free visit with your primary care doctor every year to plan out your prevention services. And there are no more co-pays for preventative services in Medicare.

                                            9) THIS IS A BIG ONE !!: Small businesses get big tax credits?up to 50 percent of premium costs?for offering health insurance to their workers. A big tax cut for small business!!!!

                                            10) Insurers with unusually high administrative costs have to offer rebates to their customers, and every insurance company has to reveal how much it spends on overhead. Ins. companies have to spend at least 85% of your premium cost on PATIENT care No more outrageous CEO salaries!!!

                                            11) Free birth control and other preventative services for women, unless you work for a faith-based organization that opposes birth control.

                                            Go ahead repub wingers try to tell the American people how it's so much better to have your insurance co. drop you when you get sick or tell you sorry but you're too sick for us BYE! And then no other insurance co. will take you because you have a preexisting condition.

                                            Here is your nominee mittens talking about how he passed this same plan in MA...he was very proud of it unfortunately he SOLD HIS SOUL to win the repub. primary. He stands on a bed of sand...can't trust what he says or what he will do

                                            http://www.usatoday.com/printedition/news/20090730/column30_st.art.htm

                                            You guys really believe he will repeal it on day one He lies so much I don't think he would even recognize the truth

                                            http://youtu.be/bxch-yi14BE

                                            There is no real mittens

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