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THE BEATLES WEREN'T A BOY BAND

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Posted by SusyLuvsPaul

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      Hi,

       

      I really don't want to have any arguments with fellow Paul McCartney and Beatles fans, but I have to correct and debunk the totally ignorant comment that the writer Stephanie Eckhardt said in the article linked on here which I had already read before I saw it linked here and got very upset,because in the first sentance in her article,Remembering Astrid Kirchherr she so wrongly, ignorantly,unjustly and ludicrously said that The Beatles will forever be remembered as the original boy band after they formed in 1960.

       

       

       

      The Beatles were *NEVER* a ''boy band''. As a poster Reverend Rock,who is a rock musician,reverend and a big Beatles fan said when someone on a classic rock site years ago, ignorantly called them this,that anyone who knows The Beatles history knows it's ludicrous to even *suggest* such a thing! And what a huge insult to their enormous talent as true singers,song writers and musicians!

       

       

       The Beatles were a *zillion* times more talented and cool than any stupid,uncool,untalented real boy band! The Monkees are the first true boy band because they didn't even start off as a genuine band, they were all musical but they were originally hired as actors to play members of a TV pop rock band for their TV show, they didn't start off playing together like Paul at age 15,George age 14 and John age 16 playing guitars and singing,then playing a few years later for 8 hours a night in sleazy strip clubs( and The Beatles had sex with many young women groupies,many who were teen girls and strippers) like The Beatles did in Hamburg Germany(or anywhere) for 2 years in a row,taking speed pills to stay awake to do it,and working their a*ses off playing as a real rock n roll band,and then playing successfully in the Cavern club as a real rock n roll band for years by the time they made it big.

       

       

       

       And The Beatles wrote and played a lot of great rock n roll and pop rock songs in their early days. John and Paul wrote the rock n roll song I Wanna Be Your Man write in front of Keith Richards and Mick Jagger in 1963 and they were both really impressed that they could just write a song just like that,and it inspired them to start writing their own songs and both bands became good friends from then on.

       

       

       

       

       And this song was one of The Rolling Stones first hits. There is just no comparison to The Monkees etc. A guy so accurately said on a message board many years ago when some idiots called them a ''boy band'' that The Beatles were *never* a boy band,not even during their 1963-1965 period. And another guy said a few years after this on another forum,when some idiot said this,that he too once thought the early Beatles were a boy band like NSYNC,or The Back Street Boys,until he got out of 7th grade.

       

       

       

       Every time some ignorant person unjustly calls them a boy band,I'm sure John Lennon's ashes must be turning with outrage.I'm sure he would go on to these sites and say I was *not* the founder and the leader of some f*king,stupid,uncool,untalented, boy band get that through your stupid f*cking heads! And younger people don't know what type of music was out in 1963,even though I wasn't born yet,I know that The Beatles early songs like She Loves You and I Want To Hold Your Hand were hard rock compared to the music out then.There was just Bobby Darin,The Four Seasons,Bobby Vinton and The Beach Boys surfing hits.

      In this All Music Guide review of The Beatles 1963 second album,With The Beatles Stephen Thomas Erlewine who wrote The All Music Guide's Rolling Stones biography,and reviews a lot of Beatles and solo Beatles albums, says at the end of the very good review that still the heart of With The Beatles lies not in the covers but the originals where it was clear that even at this early stage The Beatles were rapidly maturing and changing turning into expert craftsman and musical innovators.

       

       

      http://www.allmusic.com/album/with-the-beatles-mw0000192941

       

       

       

      No one would ever say this about One Direction or *any* true boy band who are manufactured,don't play any musical instruments,much less be very good musicians like The Beatles were,and don't write music much less be song craftsman and musical innovators.

       

       

      I’m posting links to my blogs and links to other important great information debunking this stupid,ludicrous,nonsense.

       

       

      Great Picture Says,THE BEATLES WEREN'T A BOY BAND DUMBASS

       

       

      https://www.pinterest.com/pin/339529259382156275/?lp=true

       

       

       

       

       

      THE BEATLES WEREN'T A BOY BAND

       

       

      This was re posted on other sites but in the comments to this picture on Pinterest a woman so rightly said,The Beatles weren't a boy band,boy bands are terrible,they have little or no talent like One Direction.

       

       

      Here is also my great blog with a lot of great information debunking this extremely ignorant,ludicrous myth that The Beatles were ever a boy band, I include a lot of Scott's great information from his great Beatles series too.

       

       

      The Beatles Were NEVER A Boy Band They were Always A Great Rock n Roll,Pop Rock And Rock Band From The Start!

       

       

       

      https://thebeatleswereneveraboybandtheywerealwaysagreatrockpoprockrockn.wordpress.com/

       

       

       

       

       

      https://thebeatleswereneveraboybandtheywerealwaysagreatrocknrollpoprock.wordpress.com/

       

       

       

       

      Very good blog post by Barefoot Justine debunking this too.

       

       

       

      OK, let’s stop this Beatles “boyband” comparison sh*t. I know that when a band (person, actor, leader, artist) is the biggest thing ever, people just can’t stand it and they have to go on the attack and disassemble them, but this is utter rubbish

       

       

       

       

      https://barefootjustine.com/2013/10/06/ok-lets-stop-the-beatle-boyband-shit-already/

       

      OK Let’s Stop the Beatle Boyband Shit Already! | Barefoot Justine

      OK, let's stop this Beatles "boyband" comparison shit. I know that when a band (person, actor, leader, artist) is the biggest thing ever, people just can't stand it and they have to go on the attack and disassemble them, but this is utter rubbish. I don't know who started it or where this idea that…

      barefootjustine.com

       

       

       

      OK, let’s stop this Beatles “boyband” comparison shit. I know that when a band (person, actor, leader, artist) is the biggest thing ever, people just can’t stand it and they have to go on the attack and disassemble them, but this is utter rubbish.

       

       

       

       

      OK Let’s Stop the Beatle Boyband Shit Already! | Barefoot ...

       

       

       

      Great youtube video by Mean Mr Mayo,

       

      The Beatles were NOT a ''boy band''

       

      Typical  Modern Day Nonsense

       

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmVlDCm5NO

       

       

      The Beatles didn't influence the modern boy bands,how by getting them to form as a genuine rock band,playing their instruments for years and years working their as*es offf to make it big? By writing their own very good to great songs including for other artists including The Rolling Stones as John and Paul were already doing in 1963 as their own song writing success was just getting off the ground?

       

       

       

      Out of over 400 great almost all 5 star amazon.com reviews from September 2016 for the remastered The Beatles Live At The Hollywood Bowl album, not one person called them a boy band which is a miracle I knew wouldn't last,some reviewers said they were the greatest band of all time,the greatest rock band ever,or greatest rock and roll band ever,or others just didn't say that and just said they liked the album or out of over 400 mostly great reviews of Ron Howard's film Eight Days A Week. But sure enough in February a guy gave The Live At THe Hollywood Bowl album a 4 star review but ludicrously called The Beatles the number 1 boy band of all time.

       

       

      So a reviewer who is a big Beatles fan James L.Dickinson said to him Boy Band? I take it that Led Zeppelin,(who I could never stand) The Doors, The Rolling Stones,Pink Floyd,or Black Sabbath AC/DC are all boy bands? They are a Rock n Roll band,you may of heard of the term.The rest of us know what a so-called boy band is,other than that strange comment you nailed the rest.

       

       

      I can totally understand his shock and how mind boggling it is whenever he sees them called this,but I can't believe he never saw or heard this before because just about anywhere The Beatles are written about and discussed online, idiots are constantly calling The Beatles an overrated,talentless 60's boy band and comparing them to stupid,uncool,untalented genuine boy bands like One Direction,NSYNC,THe Back Street Boys,and New Kids On The Block etc and whatever next boy band comes out.

       

      https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R5ICT3EE9HQ5R/ref=cm_cr_getr_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B01IO7OHTU

       

       

      Many years ago some ignorant member of the site Classic Rock called The Beatles a boy band and member Reverend Rock who is a reverend,rock musician and a big Beatles fan so rightfully said,that anyone who knows The Beatles history knows it’s ludicrous to even *suggest* such a thing!

       

      Ringo Starr rightfully said on March 25,2003,on MTV's TRL show The Beatles Were Not A Boy Band Like Today's male Pop Groups NYSNC, and The Backstreet Boys etc Ringo really needs to be debunking this now too because so many people ignorantly compare The Beatles to the genuine boy band One Direction.

       

       

      http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/879548/replies?c=5

       

       

      Boy Band - Music Genres - Rate Your Music

       

       

      A boy band is a type of male vocal group often put together by talent managers or record producers. The members are generally expected to perform highly choreographed dance sequences during their shows and music videos, and to have an attractive appearance.

       

      A typical boy band features three or four members who sing R&B influenced music but do not play instruments or write their own music.This style began in the 1980's with groups such as New Kids on The Block and New Edition achieving commercial success in the United States and it has gone through periods of popularity in various countries ever since.

       

      https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/Boy+Band/

       

      Boy Band - Music Genres - Rate Your Music

       

      A boy band is a type of male vocal group often put together by talent managers or record producers. The members are generally expected to perform highly choreographed dance sequences during their shows and music videos, and to have an attractive appearance.

       

      Thankfully The Beatles aren't in here and The Beatles genres are described as Pop Rock,Mersey Beat,Psychedelic Pop,Rock & Roll,Rock & Folk Pop

       

       

      The list of The Beatles genres is even longer in their list of Top 1000 greatest Rock Artists where The Beatles are # 1 And The Beatles are one only a few music artists that wrote and played that many different kinds of music,and the only ones that did it in just an amazing 8 year recording career.

       

      https://rateyourmusic.com/list/noname219/top_1000_rock_artists/10/

       

       

      This June 2000 NY Daily News Article Is About The Monkees as the first true boy band.

       

       

      https://www.nydailynews.com/archives/nydn-features/monkee-ing-boy-band-article-1.861998

       

       

      MONKEE-ING AROUND WITH THE FIRST BOY BAND

      George Stanchev remembers vividly his first brushes with the classic TV series "The Monkees" and, frankly, he wasn't much interested. "I watched to the extent that when I heard the song, 'Hey, hey, we're the Monkees' and turned the channel as quick as I could," Stanchev says. Little did he know that many years later he would get his big acting break in a film about the TV-originated band. Stanchev portrays "Monkees' Story " star Davy

      www.nydailynews.com

       

       

      Great January 2002 Toronto Star article that unfortunately isn't online anymore and it quotes from Micky Dolenz of The Monkees,The Monkees:The Original Boy Band?

       

       

      It compares them to The Back Street Boys, and New Kids On The Block and Micky Dolenz says The origin of the term boy band came from those only male vocal groups who wrote no music & played no instruments and were manufactured, and The Monkees were hired as actors to play a fictional genuine rock and roll band like The Beatles,The Monkees didn't even play any instruments on their first several albums,and even though Mike Nesmith wrote some good songs,all of their big best known hit songs were written by professional song writers.

       

       

      Thankfully there is no ludicrous mention of The Beatles in this article.

       

      https://www.thestar.com/entertainment/2002/01/03/the_monkees_the_original_boy_band.html

       

       

      George Martin Says In This book his biography,All You Need is Ears,There's No Doubt Lennon &  McCartney Were good Musicians,They Had Good Musical Brains & The Brain Is Where Music Originates,It Has Nothing To Do With Your Fingers,As It Happened They Could All Play Their Own Instruments Very Well,And that Paul is an excellent music all- arounder, probably the best bass guitar-player there is, a brilliant guitarist,a first class drummer and a competent piano player.

       

       

      George Martin said in The Beatles early days he tried to learn to play the guitar in order to have a better musical communication between him and The Beatles,but he couldn't learn it and gave it up,but he says that John and Paul learned to play the piano far more quickly than he was able to master their instrument.

       

      https://books.google.com/books?id=4Yoio9MewhcC&pg=PA138&lpg=PA138&dq=george+martin+said+there%27s+no+doubt+that+lennon+and+mccartney+were+good+musicians+they+had+good+musical+brains&source=bl&ots=nYLJfbKBYz&sig=ACfU3U0ciQyDY9ddLPBm9p2MHaz0yFZaZw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwitotzd5ffkAhXumOAKHelPBjkQ6AEwAXoECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q&f=false

       

       

      All You Need Is Ears

       

       

       

       

      This is a great London Times review of the remastered The Beatles Live at The Hollywood Bowl album says it’s remarkable that The Beatles played as well as they did given that they couldn’t hear a thing beyond the screaming of 17,500 teenage girls.

       

       

       

      They should have also mentioned the poor very primitive and limited sound systems of the time and no feedback monitors so they also couldn’t hear themselves singing and playing but the amazingly sang and played great and in sync with each other anyway.

       

       

       

      It says that they were a lean and vibrant rock n roll band honed to perfection after toughing it out with five sets a night in rough Hamburg nightclubs.

       

       

       

      https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/pop-the-beatles-live-at-the-hollywood-bowl-f9pxrkmzg

       

       

       

      Pop: The Beatles: Live at the Hollywood Bowl  Times2 ...

       

       

       

       

      The Times & The Sunday Times

       

       

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      www.thetimes.co.uk

       

       

      ★★★★★Ron Howard’s superb new Beatles documentary, Eight Days a Week, shows not just how exciting but also how overwhelming the Fab Four’s brief life as ...

       

       

       

      Giles Martin,George Martin's son who recently remastered The Beatles 1964 and 1965 Live At The Hollywood Bowl concerts rightfully says on All Songs Considered when people ask him if The Beatles were a good live band,he says they were a great live band and he mention the very limited,primitive sound systems they had back then,and says how great The Beatles played live in the studio on their first 3 or 4 albums,and that they all played their instruments very good.

       

       

       

      He obviously means they played these first several albums live because they didn't even have any overdubbing until 1965 so they had to play and record those albums live.

       

       

      And their first albums before the great A Hard Day's Night album were recorded on only 2 track tape,they had 4 track by A Hard Day's Night and only 8 track for The White album,Let It Be and Abbey Road.

       

       

      By the time they recorded and played live their first album Please please Me recorded in only in one day in February 1963,they had 1000's of hours of live playing experience playing 8 hours a night from 1960-1962 in the sleazy strip clubs in Hamburg Germany and had to take speed pills to stay awake to do it,and John Lennon said every song was 20 minutes long,and had 20 minute solos in it.

       

       

      Then they played successfully live in the Liverpool Cavern Club for years before they made the Please Please Me album.

       

       

      http://www.npr.org/sections/allsongs/2016/08/25/491201322/all-songs-1-the-beatles-are-live-and-sounding-better-than-ever

       

       

       

      All Songs +1: The Beatles Are Live And Sounding Better Than Ever

       

       

       

      The Beatles were a great live band, but only three of their shows were ever professionally recorded. Now new technology takes those shows from The Hollywood Bowl and makes them sound better than ever.

       

       

       

      In this 2016 BBc interview Larry Kane who interviewed The Beatles from 1964-1966 and says he was at 46 Beatles concerts and there wasn't a bad one among them.

       

       

      He also said that he thinks Ron Howard's documentary (Eight Days A Week) is a reminder how good The Beatles were as musicians,that modern musicians will look at the puny sound equipment they had and will be amazed and that some concerts had the music going out on the stadiums public address systems.

       

       

       

      https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-37355216

       

      Larry Kane: The reluctant Beatles fan - BBC News

       

      Eight Days A Week - Ron Howard's new documentary about the Beatles' touring days in the 1960s - has contributions from familiar faces such as Sir Paul McCartney and Ringo Starr. Less expected is ...

      www.bbc.com

       

       

      Rockumentary - Paul McCartney

       

      This very good 1990 MTV Paul McCartney rocumentary  the narrator rightly says McCartney has been many things over the last three decades, a hardcore rock and roller,a pure pop star,a trailblazing bassist,and the cutest guy in the worlds most popular band,but above all else from the beginning he's been a world class song writer. 

       

       

       

      The Beatles producer George Martin is also interviewed and he said that soon after he started to work with them in the recording studio,which was late 1962,early 1963,he said they emerged as pretty brilliant and started to really think about song writing in a very serious way.

       

       

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3G_CSLebNw

      Rockumentary - Paul McCartney

      Rockumentary - Paul McCartney

      www.youtube.com

       

      Several Members So Correctly Debunk This Ludicrous Stupid Nonsense Calling The Early Beatles A Boy Band

       

       

      https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/6-reasons-a-beatles-like-phenomenon-cant-happen-again.403019/page-4#post-11593639

       

      https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/6-reasons-a-beatles-like-phenomenon-cant-happen-again.403019/page-23

       

      This is a great 2011 article about Goldmine Magazine's readers poll voted The Beatles The Best Overall, The Song Writing Team Of Lennon and McCartney

       

       

       

      And the author of this article Gillian Gaar says what I have always said and pointed out,that as early as December 1963 music critic of The London  Times William Mann called John Lennon and Paul McCartney the outstanding English composers of 1963 and he analysed and praised the clever,unusual complex chords they wrote even in their early songs like She Loves you etc.

       

       

       

       

       And In this article it also says the the music critic of  The Sunday London Times ( Hunter Davies says in his great  1968 only authorized Beatles biography called,The Beatles which he updated several times that it was classical music critic Richard Buckle) who called John and Paul the 2 greatest composers since Beethoven after they composed music for a ballet,Mods and Rockers.

       

       

      Gillian Garr also says what I have always said, that John Lennon and Paul McCartney wrote songs at such a prodigious rate in 1963 and 1964 that they supplied numerous other artists with hit songs as well as looking after the interests of their own group. He doesn't mention the music artists they wrote for in 1963,Billy J.Kramer and The Dakotas, Celia Black,Peter and Gordon and the rock n roll song I Wanna Be Your Man for The Rolling Stones which became one of their first hits. 

       

      And John and Paul wrote it right in front of them and Mick Jagger and Keith Richards were really impressed that they could just write a song just like that,and it inspired them to start writing their own songs and both bands became good friends from then on and Mick Jagger was at 4 Beatles recording sessions and Keith Richards was at 2 of them with him.Mick Jagger also went on the train with The Beatles to Bangor Wales in August 1967 to meet the Maharishi to meditate for the first time and he was with them there when they got the call that their manager Brian Epstein was dead.

       

       

       

      My  Beatles Pinterest Board,

       

      https://www.pinterest.com/topazthecat1000/

       

       

      http://www.goldminemag.com/features/best-overall-the-beatles

       

       

       A Definitive List of The Musicians Who Influenced Our Lives The Most.The Beatles are number 1 in 2017. And they are the only music artists in the 1,000's.This is from research data The All Music Guide complied.

       

       

      A definitive list of the musicians who influenced our lives most

       

       

      Beyond The Beatles: The 100 most influential musicians of ...

       

       

      THE REAL HALL OF FAME A definitive list of the musicians who influenced our lives most

       

       

      https://qz.com/1094962/a-definitive-list-of-the-musicians-who-influenced-our-lives-most/

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

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        I’m posting links to my blogs and links to other important great information debunking this stupid,ludicrous,nonsense.

         

         

        Great Picture Says,THE BEATLES WEREN'T A BOY BAND DUMBASS

         

         

        https://www.pinterest.com/pin/339529259382156275/?lp=true

         

         

         

         

         

        THE BEATLES WEREN'T A BOY BAND

         

         

        This was re posted on other sites but in the comments to this picture on Pinterest a woman so rightly said,The Beatles weren't a boy band,boy bands are terrible,they have little or no talent like One Direction.

         

         

        Here is also my great blog with a lot of great information debunking this extremely ignorant,ludicrous myth that The Beatles were ever a boy band, I include a lot of Scott's great information from his great Beatles series too.

         

         

        The Beatles Were NEVER A Boy Band They were Always A Great Rock n Roll,Pop Rock And Rock Band From The Start!

         

         

         

         

        https://thebeatleswereneveraboybandtheywerealwaysagreatrockpoprockrockn.wordpress.com/

         

         

         

         

         

        Very good blog post by Barefoot Justine debunking this too.

         

         

         

        OK, let’s stop this Beatles “boyband” comparison sh*t. I know that when a band (person, actor, leader, artist) is the biggest thing ever, people just can’t stand it and they have to go on the attack and disassemble them, but this is utter rubbish

         

         

         

         

        https://barefootjustine.com/2013/10/06/ok-lets-stop-the-beatle-boyband-shit-already/

         

        OK Let’s Stop the Beatle Boyband Shit Already! | Barefoot Justine

        OK, let's stop this Beatles "boyband" comparison shit. I know that when a band (person, actor, leader, artist) is the biggest thing ever, people just can't stand it and they have to go on the attack and disassemble them, but this is utter rubbish. I don't know who started it or where this idea that…

        barefootjustine.com

         

         

         

        OK, let’s stop this Beatles “boyband” comparison shit. I know that when a band (person, actor, leader, artist) is the biggest thing ever, people just can’t stand it and they have to go on the attack and disassemble them, but this is utter rubbish.

         

         

         

         

        OK Let’s Stop the Beatle Boyband Shit Already! | Barefoot ...

        Great youtube video by Mean Mr Mayo,

         

         

         

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmVlDCm5NOU

         

         

         

        242. The Beatles were NOT a "boy band"

         

         

        Typical modern day nonsense.

         

         

        The Beatles didn't influence the modern boy bands,how by getting them to form as a genuine rock band,playing their instruments for years and years working their as*es offf to make it big? By writing their own very good to great songs including for other artists including The Rolling Stones as John and Paul were already doing in 1963 as their own song writing success was just getting off the ground?

         

         

         

        Out of over 400 great almost all 5 star amazon.com reviews from September 2016 for the remastered The Beatles Live At The Hollywood Bowl album, not one person called them a boy band which is a miracle I knew wouldn't last,some reviewers said they were the greatest band of all time,the greatest rock band ever,or greatest rock and roll band ever,or others just didn't say that and just said they liked the album or out of over 400 mostly great reviews of Ron Howard's film Eight Days A Week. But sure enough in February a guy gave The Live At THe Hollywood Bowl album a 4 star review but ludicrously called The Beatles the number 1 boy band of all time.

         

         

        So a reviewer who is a big Beatles fan James L.Dickinson said to him Boy Band? I take it that Led Zeppelin,(who I could never stand) The Doors, The Rolling Stones,Pink Floyd,or Black Sabbath AC/DC are all boy bands? They are a Rock n Roll band,you may of heard of the term.The rest of us know what a so-called boy band is,other than that strange comment you nailed the rest.

         

         

        I can totally understand his shock and how mind boggling it is whenever he sees them called this,but I can't believe he never saw or heard this before because just about anywhere The Beatles are written about and discussed online, idiots are constantly calling The Beatles an overrated,talentless 60's boy band and comparing them to stupid,uncool,untalented genuine boy bands like One Direction,NSYNC,THe Back Street Boys,and New Kids On The Block etc and whatever next boy band comes out.

         

        https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R5ICT3EE9HQ5R/ref=cm_cr_getr_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B01IO7OHTU

         

         

        Many years ago some ignorant member of the site Classic Rock called The Beatles a boy band and member Reverend Rock who is a reverend,rock musician and a big Beatles fan so rightfully said,that anyone who knows The Beatles history knows it’s ludicrous to even *suggest* such a thing!

         

         

        Ringo Starr rightfully said on March 25,2003,on MTV's TRL show The Beatles Were Not A Boy Band Like Today's male Pop Groups NYSNC, and The Backstreet Boys etc Ringo really needs to be debunking this now too because so many people ignorantly compare The Beatles to the genuine boy band One Direction.

         

         

        http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/879548/replies?c=5

         

         

        Boy Band - Music Genres - Rate Your Music

         

         

        A boy band is a type of male vocal group often put together by talent managers or record producers. The members are generally expected to perform highly choreographed dance sequences during their shows and music videos, and to have an attractive appearance.

         

         

         

        A typical boy band features three or four members who sing R&B influenced music but do not play instruments or write their own music.This style began in the 1980's with groups such as New Kids on The Block and New Edition achieving commercial success in the United States and it has gone through periods of popularity in various countries ever since.

         

         

         

        https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/Boy+Band/

         

         

         

         

        Boy Band - Music Genres - Rate Your Music

         

         

        A boy band is a type of male vocal group often put together by talent managers or record producers. The members are generally expected to perform highly choreographed dance sequences during their shows and music videos, and to have an attractive appearance.

         

         

         

        Thankfully The Beatles aren't in here and The Beatles genres are described as Pop Rock,Mersey Beat,Psychedelic Pop,Rock & Roll,Rock & Folk Pop

         

         

        The list of The Beatles genres is even longer in their list of Top 1000 greatest Rock Artists where The Beatles are # 1 And The Beatles are one only a few music artists that wrote and played that many different kinds of music,and the only ones that did it in just an amazing 8 year recording career.

         

         

        https://rateyourmusic.com/list/noname219/top_1000_rock_artists/10/

         

         

         

        Here they are also # 1 on Rate Your Music Top Artists out over 5,000

         

         

         

        https://rateyourmusic.com/list/noname219/top-artists/

         

         

         

        https://rateyourmusic.com/list/noname219/top-artists-chart/

         

         

        This June 2000 NY Daily News Article Is About The Monkees as the first true boy band.

         

         

        https://www.nydailynews.com/archives/nydn-features/monkee-ing-boy-band-article-1.861998

        MONKEE-ING AROUND WITH THE FIRST BOY BAND

        George Stanchev remembers vividly his first brushes with the classic TV series "The Monkees" and, frankly, he wasn't much interested. "I watched to the extent that when I heard the song, 'Hey, hey, we're the Monkees' and turned the channel as quick as I could," Stanchev says. Little did he know that many years later he would get his big acting break in a film about the TV-originated band. Stanchev portrays "Monkees' Story " star Davy

        www.nydailynews.com

         

         

         

         

         

        George Martin Says In This book his biography,All You Need is Ears,There's No Doubt Lennon &  McCartney Were good Musicians,They Had Good Musical Brains & The Brain Is Where Music Originates,It Has Nothing To Do With Your Fingers,As It Happened They Could All Play Their Own Instruments Very Well,And that Paul is an excellent music all- arounder, probably the best bass guitar-player there is, a brilliant guitarist,a first class drummer and a competent piano player.

         

         

         

        George Martin said in The Beatles early days he tried to learn to play the guitar in order to have a better musical communication between him and The Beatles,but he couldn't learn it and gave it up,but he says that John and Paul learned to play the piano far more quickly than he was able to master their instrument.

         

         

         

        https://books.google.com/books?id=4Yoio9MewhcC&pg=PA138&lpg=PA138&dq=george+martin+said+there%27s+no+doubt+that+lennon+and+mccartney+were+good+musicians+they+had+good+musical+brains&source=bl&ots=nYLJfbKBYz&sig=ACfU3U0ciQyDY9ddLPBm9p2MHaz0yFZaZw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwitotzd5ffkAhXumOAKHelPBjkQ6AEwAXoECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q&f=false

         

         

        All You Need Is Ears

        books.google.com

         

         

         

         

         

        Great January 2002 Toronto Star article that unfortunately isn't online anymore and it quotes from Micky Dolenz of The Monkees,The Monkees:The Original Boy Band?

         

         

        It compares them to The Back Street Boys, and New Kids On The Block and Micky Dolenz says The origin of the term boy band came from those only male vocal groups who wrote no music & played no instruments and were manufactured, and The Monkees were hired as actors to play a fictional genuine rock and roll band like The Beatles,The Monkees didn't even play any instruments on their first several albums,and even though Mike Nesmith wrote some good songs,all of their big best known hit songs were written by professional song writers.

         

         

        Thankfully there is no ludicrous mention of The Beatles in this article.

         

         

         

        https://www.thestar.com/entertainment/2002/01/03/the_monkees_the_original_boy_band.html

         

         

        This is a great London Times review of the remastered The Beatles Live at The Hollywood Bowl album says it’s remarkable that The Beatles played as well as they did given that they couldn’t hear a thing beyond the screaming of 17,500 teenage girls.

         

         

         

        They should have also mentioned the poor very primitive and limited sound systems of the time and no feedback monitors so they also couldn’t hear themselves singing and playing but the amazingly sang and played great and in sync with each other anyway.

         

         

         

        It says that they were a lean and vibrant rock n roll band honed to perfection after toughing it out with five sets a night in rough Hamburg nightclubs.

         

         

         

        https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/pop-the-beatles-live-at-the-hollywood-bowl-f9pxrkmzg

         

         

         

        Pop: The Beatles: Live at the Hollywood Bowl  Times2 ...

         

         

         

         

        The Times & The Sunday Times

         

         

        9am starts ‘are a risk to workers’ health’ new. He was the first head teacher in England to move start times for lessons to 10am so teenagers could have a lie in — and now he wants offices ...

         

         

        www.thetimes.co.uk

         

         

        ★★★★★Ron Howard’s superb new Beatles documentary, Eight Days a Week, shows not just how exciting but also how overwhelming the Fab Four’s brief life as ...

         

         

         

        Giles Martin,George Martin's son who recently remastered The Beatles 1964 and 1965 Live At The Hollywood Bowl concerts rightfully says on All Songs Considered when people ask him if The Beatles were a good live band,he says they were a great live band and he mention the very limited,primitive sound systems they had back then,and says how great The Beatles played live in the studio on their first 3 or 4 albums,and that they all played their instruments very good.

         

         

         

        He obviously means they played these first several albums live because they didn't even have any overdubbing until 1965 so they had to play and record those albums live.

         

         

        And their first albums before the great A Hard Day's Night album were recorded on only 2 track tape,they had 4 track by A Hard Day's Night and only 8 track for The White album,Let It Be and Abbey Road.

         

         

        By the time they recorded and played live their first album Please please Me recorded in only in one day in February 1963,they had 1000's of hours of live playing experience playing 8 hours a night from 1960-1962 in the sleazy strip clubs in Hamburg Germany and had to take speed pills to stay awake to do it,and John Lennon said every song was 20 minutes long,and had 20 minute solos in it.

         

         

        Then they played successfully live in the Liverpool Cavern Club for years before they made the Please Please Me album.

         

         

        http://www.npr.org/sections/allsongs/2016/08/25/491201322/all-songs-1-the-beatles-are-live-and-sounding-better-than-ever

         

         

         

        All Songs +1: The Beatles Are Live And Sounding Better Than Ever

         

         

         

        The Beatles were a great live band, but only three of their shows were ever professionally recorded. Now new technology takes those shows from The Hollywood Bowl and makes them sound better than ever.

         

         

         

        In this 2016 BBc interview Larry Kane who interviewed The Beatles from 1964-1966 and says he was at 46 Beatles concerts and there wasn't a bad one among them.

         

         

        He also said that he thinks Ron Howard's documentary (Eight Days A Week) is a reminder how good The Beatles were as musicians,that modern musicians will look at the puny sound equipment they had and will be amazed and that some concerts had the music going out on the stadiums public address systems.

         

         

         

        https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-37355216

        Larry Kane: The reluctant Beatles fan - BBC News

        Eight Days A Week - Ron Howard's new documentary about the Beatles' touring days in the 1960s - has contributions from familiar faces such as Sir Paul McCartney and Ringo Starr. Less expected is ...

        www.bbc.com

         

         

        Rockumentary - Paul McCartney

         

        This very good 1990 MTV Paul McCartney rocumentary  the narrator rightly says McCartney has been many things over the last three decades, a hardcore rock and roller,a pure pop star,a trailblazing bassist,and the cutest guy in the worlds most popular band,but above all else from the beginning he's been a world class song writer. 

         

         

         

        The Beatles producer George Martin is also interviewed and he said that soon after he started to work with them in the recording studio,which was late 1962,early 1963,he said they emerged as pretty brilliant and started to really think about song writing in a very serious way.

         

         

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3G_CSLebNw

        Rockumentary - Paul McCartney

        Rockumentary - Paul McCartney

        www.youtube.com

         

        Several Members So Correctly Debunk This Ludicrous Stupid Nonsense Calling The Early Beatles A Boy Band

         

         

        https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/6-reasons-a-beatles-like-phenomenon-cant-happen-again.403019/page-4#post-11593639

         

        https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/6-reasons-a-beatles-like-phenomenon-cant-happen-again.403019/page-23

         

         

         

        This is a great 2011 article about Goldmine Magazine's readers poll voted The Beatles The Best Overall, The Song Writing Team Of Lennon and McCartney

         

         

         

        And the author of this article Gillian Gaar says what I have always said and pointed out,that as early as December 1963 music critic of The London  Times William Mann called John Lennon and Paul McCartney the outstanding English composers of 1963 and he analysed and praised the clever,unusual complex chords they wrote even in their early songs like She Loves you etc.

         

         

         

         

         And In this article it also says the the music critic of  The Sunday London Times ( Hunter Davies says in his great  1968 only authorized Beatles biography called,The Beatles which he updated several times that it was classical music critic Richard Buckle) who called John and Paul the 2 greatest composers since Beethoven after they composed music for a ballet,Mods and Rockers.

         

         

         

        Gillian Garr also says what I have always said, that John Lennon and Paul McCartney wrote songs at such a prodigious rate in 1963 and 1964 that they supplied numerous other artists with hit songs as well as looking after the interests of their own group. He doesn't mention the music artists they wrote for in 1963,Billy J.Kramer and The Dakotas, Celia Black,Peter and Gordon and the rock n roll song I Wanna Be Your Man for The Rolling Stones which became one of their first hits. 

         

        And John and Paul wrote it right in front of them and Mick Jagger and Keith Richards were really impressed that they could just write a song just like that,and it inspired them to start writing their own songs and both bands became good friends from then on and Mick Jagger was at 4 Beatles recording sessions and Keith Richards was at 2 of them with him.Mick Jagger also went on the train with The Beatles to Bangor Wales in August 1967 to meet the Maharishi to meditate for the first time and he was with them there when they got the call that their manager Brian Epstein was dead.

         

         

        In Paul McCartney's biography,Many Years From Now Mick Jagger's girlfriend from the 1960's says that she and Mick would often go over to Paul's house and hang out in his music room,she said they always went to him,because he was Paul McCartney and she said that Mick was really intimidated by Paul but that Paul was completely oblivious to this. 

         

         

         

        Paul says that he turned Mick Jagger on to pot in his music room,and he said which is funny because most people would think it was the other way around.

         

         

        http://www.goldminemag.com/features/best-overall-the-beatles

         

         

         

         A Definitive List of The Musicians Who Influenced Our Lives The Most.The Beatles are number 1 in 2017. And they are the only music artists in the 1,000's.This is from research data The All Music Guide complied.

         

         

        A definitive list of the musicians who influenced our lives most

         

         

        Beyond The Beatles: The 100 most influential musicians of ...

         

         

        THE REAL HALL OF FAME A definitive list of the musicians who influenced our lives most

         

         

        https://qz.com/1094962/a-definitive-list-of-the-musicians-who-influenced-our-lives-most/

         

         

         

         

         

         

         

         

         

         

         

         

         

         

         

         

         

         

         

         

         

         

         

         

         

         

         

         

         

         

         

         

         

         

         

         

         

         

         

         

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          The Beatles Were Never A ''Boy Band''!

           

           

          Great youtube video by Mean Mr Mayo,

           

          The Beatles were NOT a ''boy band''

           

          Typical modern day nonsense

           

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmVlDCm5NOU

           

           

          The Beatles didn't influence the modern boy bands,how by getting them to form as a genuine rock band,playing their instruments for years and years working their as*es offf to make it big? By writing their own very good to great songs including for other artists including The Rolling Stones as John and Paul were already doing in 1963 as their own song writing success was just getting off the ground?

           

           

           

          Out of over 400 great almost all 5 star amazon.com reviews from September 2016 for the remastered The Beatles Live At The Hollywood Bowl album, not one person called them a boy band which is a miracle I knew wouldn't last,some reviewers said they were the greatest band of all time,the greatest rock band ever,or greatest rock and roll band ever,or others just didn't say that and just said they liked the album or out of over 400 mostly great reviews of Ron Howard's film Eight Days A Week. But sure enough in February a guy gave The Live At THe Hollywood Bowl album a 4 star review but ludicrously called The Beatles the number 1 boy band of all time.

           

           

          So a reviewer who is a big Beatles fan James L.Dickinson said to him Boy Band? I take it that Led Zeppelin,(who I could never stand) The Doors, The Rolling Stones,Pink Floyd,or Black Sabbath AC/DC are all boy bands? They are a Rock n Roll band,you may of heard of the term.The rest of us know what a so-called boy band is,other than that strange comment you nailed the rest.

           

           

          I can totally understand his shock and how mind boggling it is whenever he sees them called this,but I can't believe he never saw or heard this before because just about anywhere The Beatles are written about and discussed online, idiots are constantly calling The Beatles an overrated,talentless 60's boy band and comparing them to stupid,uncool,untalented genuine boy bands like One Direction,NSYNC,THe Back Street Boys,and New Kids On The Block etc and whatever next boy band comes out.

           

          https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R5ICT3EE9HQ5R/ref=cm_cr_getr_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B01IO7OHTU

           

           

          Many years ago some ignorant member of the site Classic Rock called The Beatles a boy band and member Reverend Rock who is a reverend,rock musician and a big Beatles fan so rightfully said,that anyone who knows The Beatles history knows it’s ludicrous to even *suggest* such a thing!

           

           

          Ringo Starr rightfully said on March 25,2003,on MTV's TRL show The Beatles Were Not A Boy Band Like Today's male Pop Groups NYSNC, and The Backstreet Boys etc Ringo really needs to be debunking this now too because so many people ignorantly compare The Beatles to the genuine boy band One Direction.

           

           

          http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/879548/replies?c=5

           

           

          Boy Band - Music Genres - Rate Your Music

           

           

          A boy band is a type of male vocal group often put together by talent managers or record producers. The members are generally expected to perform highly choreographed dance sequences during their shows and music videos, and to have an attractive appearance.

           

           

           

          A typical boy band features three or four members who sing R&B influenced music but do not play instruments or write their own music.This style began in the 1980's with groups such as New Kids on The Block and New Edition achieving commercial success in the United States and it has gone through periods of popularity in various countries ever since.

           

           

           

          https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/Boy+Band/

           

           

           

           

          Boy Band - Music Genres - Rate Your Music

           

           

          A boy band is a type of male vocal group often put together by talent managers or record producers. The members are generally expected to perform highly choreographed dance sequences during their shows and music videos, and to have an attractive appearance.

           

           

           

          Thankfully The Beatles aren't in here and The Beatles genres are described as Pop Rock,Mersey Beat,Psychedelic Pop,Rock & Roll,Rock & Folk Pop

           

           

          The list of The Beatles genres is even longer in their list of Top 1000 greatest Rock Artists where The Beatles are # 1 And The Beatles are one only a few music artists that wrote and played that many different kinds of music,and the only ones that did it in just an amazing 8 year recording career.

           

           

          https://rateyourmusic.com/list/noname219/top_1000_rock_artists/10/

           

           

           

          Here they are also # 1 on Rate Your Music Top Artists out over 5,000

           

           

           

          https://rateyourmusic.com/list/noname219/top-artists/

           

           

           

          https://rateyourmusic.com/list/noname219/top-artists-chart/

           

           

          This June 2000 NY Daily News Article Is About The Monkees as the first true boy band.

           

           

          https://www.nydailynews.com/archives/nydn-features/monkee-ing-boy-band-article-1.861998

          MONKEE-ING AROUND WITH THE FIRST BOY BAND

          George Stanchev remembers vividly his first brushes with the classic TV series "The Monkees" and, frankly, he wasn't much interested. "I watched to the extent that when I heard the song, 'Hey, hey, we're the Monkees' and turned the channel as quick as I could," Stanchev says. Little did he know that many years later he would get his big acting break in a film about the TV-originated band. Stanchev portrays "Monkees' Story " star Davy

          www.nydailynews.com

           

           

           

           

           

          George Martin Says In This book his biography,All You Need is Ears,There's No Doubt Lennon &  McCartney Were good Musicians,They Had Good Musical Brains & The Brain Is Where Music Originates,It Has Nothing To Do With Your Fingers,As It Happened They Could All Play Their Own Instruments Very Well,And that Paul is an excellent music all- arounder, probably the best bass guitar-player there is, a brilliant guitarist,a first class drummer and a competent piano player.

           

           

           

          George Martin said in The Beatles early days he tried to learn to play the guitar in order to have a better musical communication between him and The Beatles,but he couldn't learn it and gave it up,but he says that John and Paul learned to play the piano far more quickly than he was able to master their instrument.

           

           

           

          https://books.google.com/books?id=4Yoio9MewhcC&pg=PA138&lpg=PA138&dq=george+martin+said+there%27s+no+doubt+that+lennon+and+mccartney+were+good+musicians+they+had+good+musical+brains&source=bl&ots=nYLJfbKBYz&sig=ACfU3U0ciQyDY9ddLPBm9p2MHaz0yFZaZw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwitotzd5ffkAhXumOAKHelPBjkQ6AEwAXoECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q&f=false

           

           

          All You Need Is Ears

          books.google.com

           

           

           

          Great January 2002 Toronto Star article that unfortunately isn't online anymore and it quotes from Micky Dolenz of The Monkees,The Monkees:The Original Boy Band?

           

           

          It compares them to The Back Street Boys, and New Kids On The Block and Micky Dolenz says The origin of the term boy band came from those only male vocal groups who wrote no music & played no instruments and were manufactured, and The Monkees were hired as actors to play a fictional genuine rock and roll band like The Beatles,The Monkees didn't even play any instruments on their first several albums,and even though Mike Nesmith wrote some good songs,all of their big best known hit songs were written by professional song writers.

           

          Thankfully there is no ludicrous mention of The Beatles in this article.

           

           

           

          https://www.thestar.com/entertainment/2002/01/03/the_monkees_the_original_boy_band.html

           

           

          This is a great London Times review of the remastered The Beatles Live at The Hollywood Bowl album says it’s remarkable that The Beatles played as well as they did given that they couldn’t hear a thing beyond the screaming of 17,500 teenage girls.

           

           

          They should have also mentioned the poor very primitive and limited sound systems of the time and no feedback monitors so they also couldn’t hear themselves singing and playing but the amazingly sang and played great and in sync with each other anyway.

           

           

          It says that they were a lean and vibrant rock n roll band honed to perfection after toughing it out with five sets a night in rough Hamburg nightclubs.

           

           

           

          https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/pop-the-beatles-live-at-the-hollywood-bowl-f9pxrkmzg

           

           

           

          Pop: The Beatles: Live at the Hollywood Bowl  Times2 ...

           

           

          9am starts ‘are a risk to workers’ health’ new. He was the first head teacher in England to move start times for lessons to 10am so teenagers could have a lie in — and now he wants offices ...

           

           

          www.thetimes.co.uk

           

           

          ★★★★★Ron Howard’s superb new Beatles documentary, Eight Days a Week, shows not just how exciting but also how overwhelming the Fab Four’s brief life as ...

           

           

          Giles Martin,George Martin's son who recently remastered The Beatles 1964 and 1965 Live At The Hollywood Bowl concerts rightfully says on All Songs Considered when people ask him if The Beatles were a good live band,he says they were a great live band and he mention the very limited,primitive sound systems they had back then,and says how great The Beatles played live in the studio on their first 3 or 4 albums,and that they all played their instruments very good.

           

           

           

          He obviously means they played these first several albums live because they didn't even have any overdubbing until 1965 so they had to play and record those albums live.

           

           

          And their first albums before the great A Hard Day's Night album were recorded on only 2 track tape,they had 4 track by A Hard Day's Night and only 8 track for The White album,Let It Be and Abbey Road.

           

           

          By the time they recorded and played live their first album Please please Me recorded in only in one day in February 1963,they had 1000's of hours of live playing experience playing 8 hours a night from 1960-1962 in the sleazy strip clubs in Hamburg Germany and had to take speed pills to stay awake to do it,and John Lennon said every song was 20 minutes long,and had 20 minute solos in it.

           

           

          Then they played successfully live in the Liverpool Cavern Club for years before they made the Please Please Me album.

           

          http://www.npr.org/sections/allsongs/2016/08/25/491201322/all-songs-1-the-beatles-are-live-and-sounding-better-than-ever

           

           

          All Songs +1: The Beatles Are Live And Sounding Better Than Ever

           

           

          The Beatles were a great live band, but only three of their shows were ever professionally recorded. Now new technology takes those shows from The Hollywood Bowl and makes them sound better than ever.

           

          In this 2016 BBc interview Larry Kane who interviewed The Beatles from 1964-1966 and says he was at 46 Beatles concerts and there wasn't a bad one among them.

           

           

          He also said that he thinks Ron Howard's documentary (Eight Days A Week) is a reminder how good The Beatles were as musicians,that modern musicians will look at the puny sound equipment they had and will be amazed and that some concerts had the music going out on the stadiums public address systems.

           

           

           

          https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-37355216

          Larry Kane: The reluctant Beatles fan - BBC News

          Eight Days A Week - Ron Howard's new documentary about the Beatles' touring days in the 1960s - has contributions from familiar faces such as Sir Paul McCartney and Ringo Starr. Less expected is ...

          www.bbc.com

           

           

          Rockumentary - Paul McCartney

           

          This very good 1990 MTV Paul McCartney rocumentary  the narrator rightly says McCartney has been many things over the last three decades, a hardcore rock and roller,a pure pop star,a trailblazing bassist,and the cutest guy in the worlds most popular band,but above all else from the beginning he's been a world class song writer. 

           

           

           

          The Beatles producer George Martin is also interviewed and he said that soon after he started to work with them in the recording studio,which was late 1962,early 1963,he said they emerged as pretty brilliant and started to really think about song writing in a very serious way.

           

           

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3G_CSLebNw

          Rockumentary - Paul McCartney

          Rockumentary - Paul McCartney

          www.youtube.com

           

          Several Members So Correctly Debunk This Ludicrous Stupid Nonsense Calling The Early Beatles A Boy Band

           

           

          https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/6-reasons-a-beatles-like-phenomenon-cant-happen-again.403019/page-4#post-11593639

           

          https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/6-reasons-a-beatles-like-phenomenon-cant-happen-again.403019/page-23

           

           

           

          This is a great 2011 article about Goldmine Magazine's readers poll voted The Beatles The Best Overall, The Song Writing Team Of Lennon and McCartney

           

           

           

          And the author of this article Gillian Gaar says what I have always said and pointed out,that as early as December 1963 music critic of The London  Times William Mann called John Lennon and Paul McCartney the outstanding English composers of 1963 and he analysed and praised the clever,unusual complex chords they wrote even in their early songs like She Loves you etc.

           

           

           

           

           And In this article it also says the the music critic of  The Sunday London Times ( Hunter Davies says in his great  1968 only authorized Beatles biography called,The Beatles which he updated several times that it was classical music critic Richard Buckle) who called John and Paul the 2 greatest composers since Beethoven after they composed music for a ballet,Mods and Rockers.

           

           

           

          Gillian Garr also says what I have always said, that John Lennon and Paul McCartney wrote songs at such a prodigious rate in 1963 and 1964 that they supplied numerous other artists with hit songs as well as looking after the interests of their own group. He doesn't mention the music artists they wrote for in 1963,Billy J.Kramer and The Dakotas, Celia Black,Peter and Gordon and the rock n roll song I Wanna Be Your Man for The Rolling Stones which became one of their first hits. 

           

           

           

          And John and Paul wrote it right in front of them and Mick Jagger and Keith Richards were really impressed that they could just write a song just like that,and it inspired them to start writing their own songs and both bands became good friends from then on and Mick Jagger was at 4 Beatles recording sessions and Keith Richards was at 2 of them with him.Mick Jagger also went on the train with The Beatles to Bangor Wales in August 1967 to meet the Maharishi to meditate for the first time and he was with them there when they got the call that their manager Brian Epstein was dead.

           

           

          In Paul McCartney's biography,Many Years From Now Mick Jagger's girlfriend from the 1960's says that she and Mick would often go over to Paul's house and hang out in his music room,she said they always went to him,because he was Paul McCartney and she said that Mick was really intimidated by Paul but that Paul was completely oblivious to this. 

           

           

           

          Paul says that he turned Mick Jagger on to pot in his music room,and he said which is funny because most people would think it was the other way around.

           

           

          http://www.goldminemag.com/features/best-overall-the-beatles

           

           

           

           A Definitive List of The Musicians Who Influenced Our Lives The Most.The Beatles are number 1 in 2017. And they are the only music artists in the 1,000's.This is from research data The All Music Guide complied.

           

          A definitive list of the musicians who influenced our lives most

           

           

          Beyond The Beatles: The 100 most influential musicians of ...

           

           

          THE REAL HALL OF FAME A definitive list of the musicians who influenced our lives most

           

           

          https://qz.com/1094962/a-definitive-list-of-the-musicians-who-influenced-our-lives-most/

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

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            A typical boy band features three or four members who sing R&B influenced music but do not play instruments or write their own music.This style began in the 1980's with groups such as New Kids on The Block and New Edition achieving commercial success in the United States and it has gone through periods of popularity in various countries ever since.

             

             

             

            https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/Boy+Band/

             

             

             

             

            Boy Band - Music Genres - Rate Your Music

             

             

            A boy band is a type of male vocal group often put together by talent managers or record producers. The members are generally expected to perform highly choreographed dance sequences during their shows and music videos, and to have an attractive appearance.

             

             

             

            Thankfully The Beatles aren't in here and The Beatles genres are described as Pop Rock,Mersey Beat,Psychedelic Pop,Rock & Roll,Rock & Folk Pop

             

            The list of The Beatles genres is even longer in their list of Top 1000 greatest Rock Artists where The Beatles are # 1 And The Beatles are one only a few music artists that wrote and played that many different kinds of music,and the only ones that did it in just an amazing 8 year recording career.

             

            https://rateyourmusic.com/list/noname219/top_1000_rock_artists/10/

             

            Here they are also # 1 on Rate Your Music Top Artists out over 5,000

             

             

             

            https://rateyourmusic.com/list/noname219/top-artists/

             

             

             

            https://rateyourmusic.com/list/noname219/top-artists-chart/

             

             

            This June 2000 NY Daily News Article Is About The Monkees as the first true boy band.

             

             

            https://www.nydailynews.com/archives/nydn-features/monkee-ing-boy-band-article-1.861998

             

            MONKEE-ING AROUND WITH THE FIRST BOY BAND

             

            George Stanchev remembers vividly his first brushes with the classic TV series "The Monkees" and, frankly, he wasn't much interested. "I watched to the extent that when I heard the song, 'Hey, hey, we're the Monkees' and turned the channel as quick as I could," Stanchev says. Little did he know that many years later he would get his big acting break in a film about the TV-originated band. Stanchev portrays "Monkees' Story " star Davy

             

            In this New York Daily News article by Richard Huff which is about the then June 2000 VH1 movie about the Monkees, DayDream Believers:The Monkees Story he says the fact is The Monkees were arguably the first boy band long before anyone had actually coined the term,he then said the group started as a premise for a 60's television sticom built around a Pre-Fab Four meant to pick up where Richard  Lester's two Beatles films -Help! in particular left off.He says later in the article that The Monkees were The Back Street Boys before any of the current Back Street Boys were born.

             

            He also quotes VH1's vice president of motion pictures Michael Larkin  who says this film depicts them as they really were,the first boy band.

             

             

             

             

             

            George Martin Says In This book his biography,All You Need is Ears,There's No Doubt Lennon &  McCartney Were good Musicians,They Had Good Musical Brains & The Brain Is Where Music Originates,It Has Nothing To Do With Your Fingers,As It Happened They Could All Play Their Own Instruments Very Well,And that Paul is an excellent music all- arounder, probably the best bass guitar-player there is, a brilliant guitarist,a first class drummer and a competent piano player.

             

             

             

            George Martin said in The Beatles early days he tried to learn to play the guitar in order to have a better musical communication between him and The Beatles,but he couldn't learn it and gave it up,but he says that John and Paul learned to play the piano far more quickly than he was able to master their instrument.

             

             

             

            https://books.google.com/books?id=4Yoio9MewhcC&pg=PA138&lpg=PA138&dq=george+martin+said+there%27s+no+doubt+that+lennon+and+mccartney+were+good+musicians+they+had+good+musical+brains&source=bl&ots=nYLJfbKBYz&sig=ACfU3U0ciQyDY9ddLPBm9p2MHaz0yFZaZw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwitotzd5ffkAhXumOAKHelPBjkQ6AEwAXoECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q&f=false

             

             

            All You Need Is Ears

            books.google.com

             

             

            Great January 2002 Toronto Star article that unfortunately isn't online anymore and it quotes from Micky Dolenz of The Monkees,The Monkees:The Original Boy Band?

             

            It compares them to The Back Street Boys, and New Kids On The Block and Micky Dolenz says The origin of the term boy band came from those only male vocal groups who wrote no music and played no instruments and were manufactured, and The Monkees were hired as actors to play a fictional genuine rock and roll band like The Beatles,The Monkees didn't even play any instruments on their first several albums,and even though Mike Nesmith wrote some good songs,all of their big best known hit songs were written by professional song writers.

             

             

            Thankfully there is no ludicrous mention of The Beatles in this article.

             

             

            https://www.thestar.com/entertainment/2002/01/03/the_monkees_the_original_boy_band.html

             

            This is a great London Times review of the remastered The Beatles Live at The Hollywood Bowl album says it’s remarkable that The Beatles played as well as they did given that they couldn’t hear a thing beyond the screaming of 17,500 teenage girls.

             

             

            They should have also mentioned the poor very primitive and limited sound systems of the time and no feedback monitors so they also couldn’t hear themselves singing and playing but the amazingly sang and played great and in sync with each other anyway.

             

             

            It says that they were a lean and vibrant rock n roll band honed to perfection after toughing it out with five sets a night in rough Hamburg nightclubs.

             

             

            https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/pop-the-beatles-live-at-the-hollywood-bowl-f9pxrkmzg

             

             

            Pop: The Beatles: Live at the Hollywood Bowl  Times2 ...

             

            9am starts ‘are a risk to workers’ health’ new. He was the first head teacher in England to move start times for lessons to 10am so teenagers could have a lie in — and now he wants offices ...

             

             

            ★★★★★Ron Howard’s superb new Beatles documentary, Eight Days a Week, shows not just how exciting but also how overwhelming the Fab Four’s brief life as ...

             

             

             

            Giles Martin,George Martin's son who recently remastered The Beatles 1964 and 1965 Live At The Hollywood Bowl concerts rightfully says on All Songs Considered when people ask him if The Beatles were a good live band,he says they were a great live band and he mention the very limited,primitive sound systems they had back then,and says how great The Beatles played live in the studio on their first 3 or 4 albums,and that they all played their instruments very good.

             

             

            He obviously means they played these first several albums live because they didn't even have any overdubbing until 1965 so they had to play and record those albums live.

             

            And their first albums before the great A Hard Day's Night album were recorded on only 2 track tape,they had 4 track by A Hard Day's Night and only 8 track for The White album,Let It Be and Abbey Road.

             

            By the time they recorded and played live their first album Please please Me recorded in only in one day in February 1963,they had 1000's of hours of live playing experience playing 8 hours a night from 1960-1962 in the sleazy strip clubs in Hamburg Germany and had to take speed pills to stay awake to do it,and John Lennon said every song was 20 minutes long,and had 20 minute solos in it.

             

             

            Then they played successfully live in the Liverpool Cavern Club for years before they made the Please Please Me album.

             

            http://www.npr.org/sections/allsongs/2016/08/25/491201322/all-songs-1-the-beatles-are-live-and-sounding-better-than-ever

             

            All Songs +1: The Beatles Are Live And Sounding Better Than Ever

             

             

            The Beatles were a great live band, but only three of their shows were ever professionally recorded. Now new technology takes those shows from The Hollywood Bowl and makes them sound better than ever.

             

            In this 2016 BBc interview Larry Kane who interviewed The Beatles from 1964-1966 and says he was at 46 Beatles concerts and there wasn't a bad one among them.

             

            He also said that he thinks Ron Howard's documentary (Eight Days A Week) is a reminder how good The Beatles were as musicians,that modern musicians will look at the puny sound equipment they had and will be amazed and that some concerts had the music going out on the stadiums public address systems.

             

            https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-37355216

             

            Larry Kane: The reluctant Beatles fan - BBC News

            Eight Days A Week - Ron Howard's new documentary about the Beatles' touring days in the 1960s - has contributions from familiar faces such as Sir Paul McCartney and Ringo Starr. Less expected is ...

             

             

             

            Rockumentary - Paul McCartney

             

            This very good 1990 MTV Paul McCartney rocumentary  the narrator rightly says McCartney has been many things over the last three decades, a hardcore rock and roller,a pure pop star,a trailblazing bassist,and the cutest guy in the worlds most popular band,but above all else from the beginning he's been a world class song writer. 

             

            The Beatles producer George Martin is also interviewed and he said that soon after he started to work with them in the recording studio,which was late 1962,early 1963,he said they emerged as pretty brilliant and started to really think about song writing in a very serious way.

             

             

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3G_CSLebNw

             

             

            Rockumentary - Paul McCartney

            Rockumentary - Paul McCartney

             

             

             

             

            Several Members Of The SH Forums So Correctly Debunk This Ludicrous Stupid Nonsense Calling The Early Beatles A Boy Band

             

             

            https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/6-reasons-a-beatles-like-phenomenon-cant-happen-again.403019/page-4#post-11593639

             

            https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/6-reasons-a-beatles-like-phenomenon-cant-happen-again.403019/page-21

             

             

            https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/6-reasons-a-beatles-like-phenomenon-cant-happen-again.403019/page-23

             

             

            https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/stones-v-beatles-breakup.587250/page-12

             

             

             

             

             

             

             

            This is a great 2011 article about Goldmine Magazine's readers poll voted The Beatles The Best Overall, The Song Writing Team Of Lennon and McCartney

             

            And the author of this article Gillian Gaar says what I have always said and pointed out,that as early as December 1963 music critic of The London  Times William Mann called John Lennon and Paul McCartney the outstanding English composers of 1963 and he analysed and praised the clever,unusual complex chords they wrote even in their early songs like She Loves you etc.

             

             And In this article it also says the the music critic of  The Sunday London Times ( Hunter Davies says in his great  1968 only authorized Beatles biography called,The Beatles which he updated several times that it was classical music critic Richard Buckle) who called John and Paul the 2 greatest composers since Beethoven after they composed music for a ballet,Mods and Rockers.

             

            Gillian Garr also says what I have always said, that John Lennon and Paul McCartney wrote songs at such a prodigious rate in 1963 and 1964 that they supplied numerous other artists with hit songs as well as looking after the interests of their own group. He doesn't mention the music artists they wrote for in 1963,Billy J.Kramer and The Dakotas, Celia Black,Peter and Gordon and the rock n roll song I Wanna Be Your Man for The Rolling Stones which became one of their first hits. 

             

            And John and Paul wrote it right in front of them and Mick Jagger and Keith Richards were really impressed that they could just write a song just like that,and it inspired them to start writing their own songs and both bands became good friends from then on and Mick Jagger was at 4 Beatles recording sessions and Keith Richards was at 2 of them with him.Mick Jagger also went on the train with The Beatles to Bangor Wales in August 1967 to meet the Maharishi to meditate for the first time and he was with them there when they got the call that their manager Brian Epstein was dead.

             

             

            In Paul McCartney's biography,Many Years From Now Mick Jagger's girlfriend from the 1960's says that she and Mick would often go over to Paul's house and hang out in his music room,she said they always went to him,because he was Paul McCartney and she said that Mick was really intimidated by Paul but that Paul was completely oblivious to this. 

             

            Paul says that he turned Mick Jagger on to pot in his music room,and he said which is funny because most people would think it was the other way around.

             

             

            http://www.goldminemag.com/features/best-overall-the-beatles

             

             

             

             A Definitive List of The Musicians Who Influenced Our Lives The Most.The Beatles are number 1 in 2017. And they are the only music artists in the 1,000's.This is from research data The All Music Guide complied.Queen aren't even on the list at all.

             

             

            A definitive list of the musicians who influenced our lives most

             

             

            Beyond The Beatles: The 100 most influential musicians of ...

             

             

            THE REAL HALL OF FAME A definitive list of the musicians who influenced our lives most

             

             

            https://qz.com/1094962/a-definitive-list-of-the-musicians-who-influenced-our-lives-most/

             

             

             

             

             

             

             

             

             

             

             

             

             

             

             

             

             

             

             

             

             

             

             

             

             

             

             

             

             

             

             

             

             

             

             

             

             

             

             

             

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              A typical boy band features three or four members who sing R&B influenced music but do not play instruments or write their own music.This style began in the 1980's with groups such as New Kids on The Block and New Edition achieving commercial success in the United States and it has gone through periods of popularity in various countries ever since.

               

               

               

              https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/Boy+Band/

               

               

               

               

              Boy Band - Music Genres - Rate Your Music

               

               

              A boy band is a type of male vocal group often put together by talent managers or record producers. The members are generally expected to perform highly choreographed dance sequences during their shows and music videos, and to have an attractive appearance.

               

               

               

              Thankfully The Beatles aren't in here and The Beatles genres are described as Pop Rock,Mersey Beat,Psychedelic Pop,Rock & Roll,Rock & Folk Pop

               

              The list of The Beatles genres is even longer in their list of Top 1000 greatest Rock Artists where The Beatles are # 1 And The Beatles are one only a few music artists that wrote and played that many different kinds of music,and the only ones that did it in just an amazing 8 year recording career.

               

              https://rateyourmusic.com/list/noname219/top_1000_rock_artists/10/

               

              Here they are also # 1 on Rate Your Music Top Artists out over 5,000

               

               

               

              https://rateyourmusic.com/list/noname219/top-artists/

               

               

               

              https://rateyourmusic.com/list/noname219/top-artists-chart/

               

               

              This June 2000 NY Daily News Article Is About The Monkees as the first true boy band.

               

               

              https://www.nydailynews.com/archives/nydn-features/monkee-ing-boy-band-article-1.861998

               

              MONKEE-ING AROUND WITH THE FIRST BOY BAND

               

              George Stanchev remembers vividly his first brushes with the classic TV series "The Monkees" and, frankly, he wasn't much interested. "I watched to the extent that when I heard the song, 'Hey, hey, we're the Monkees' and turned the channel as quick as I could," Stanchev says. Little did he know that many years later he would get his big acting break in a film about the TV-originated band. Stanchev portrays "Monkees' Story " star Davy

               

              In this New York Daily News article by Richard Huff which is about the then June 2000 VH1 movie about the Monkees, DayDream Believers:The Monkees Story he says the fact is The Monkees were arguably the first boy band long before anyone had actually coined the term,he then said the group started as a premise for a 60's television sticom built around a Pre-Fab Four meant to pick up where Richard  Lester's two Beatles films -Help! in particular left off.He says later in the article that The Monkees were The Back Street Boys before any of the current Back Street Boys were born.

               

              He also quotes VH1's vice president of motion pictures Michael Larkin  who says this film depicts them as they really were,the first boy band.

               

               

               

               

               

              George Martin Says In This book his biography,All You Need is Ears,There's No Doubt Lennon &  McCartney Were good Musicians,They Had Good Musical Brains & The Brain Is Where Music Originates,It Has Nothing To Do With Your Fingers,As It Happened They Could All Play Their Own Instruments Very Well,And that Paul is an excellent music all- arounder, probably the best bass guitar-player there is, a brilliant guitarist,a first class drummer and a competent piano player.

               

               

               

              George Martin said in The Beatles early days he tried to learn to play the guitar in order to have a better musical communication between him and The Beatles,but he couldn't learn it and gave it up,but he says that John and Paul learned to play the piano far more quickly than he was able to master their instrument.

               

               

               

              https://books.google.com/books?id=4Yoio9MewhcC&pg=PA138&lpg=PA138&dq=george+martin+said+there%27s+no+doubt+that+lennon+and+mccartney+were+good+musicians+they+had+good+musical+brains&source=bl&ots=nYLJfbKBYz&sig=ACfU3U0ciQyDY9ddLPBm9p2MHaz0yFZaZw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwitotzd5ffkAhXumOAKHelPBjkQ6AEwAXoECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q&f=false

               

               

              All You Need Is Ears

              books.google.com

               

               

              Great January 2002 Toronto Star article that unfortunately isn't online anymore and it quotes from Micky Dolenz of The Monkees,The Monkees:The Original Boy Band?

               

              It compares them to The Back Street Boys, and New Kids On The Block and Micky Dolenz says The origin of the term boy band came from those only male vocal groups who wrote no music and played no instruments and were manufactured, and The Monkees were hired as actors to play a fictional genuine rock and roll band like The Beatles,The Monkees didn't even play any instruments on their first several albums,and even though Mike Nesmith wrote some good songs,all of their big best known hit songs were written by professional song writers.

               

               

              Thankfully there is no ludicrous mention of The Beatles in this article.

               

               

              https://www.thestar.com/entertainment/2002/01/03/the_monkees_the_original_boy_band.html

               

              This is a great London Times review of the remastered The Beatles Live at The Hollywood Bowl album says it’s remarkable that The Beatles played as well as they did given that they couldn’t hear a thing beyond the screaming of 17,500 teenage girls.

               

               

              They should have also mentioned the poor very primitive and limited sound systems of the time and no feedback monitors so they also couldn’t hear themselves singing and playing but the amazingly sang and played great and in sync with each other anyway.

               

               

              It says that they were a lean and vibrant rock n roll band honed to perfection after toughing it out with five sets a night in rough Hamburg nightclubs.

               

               

              https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/pop-the-beatles-live-at-the-hollywood-bowl-f9pxrkmzg

               

               

              Pop: The Beatles: Live at the Hollywood Bowl  Times2 ...

               

              9am starts ‘are a risk to workers’ health’ new. He was the first head teacher in England to move start times for lessons to 10am so teenagers could have a lie in — and now he wants offices ...

               

               

              ★★★★★Ron Howard’s superb new Beatles documentary, Eight Days a Week, shows not just how exciting but also how overwhelming the Fab Four’s brief life as ...

               

               

               

              Giles Martin,George Martin's son who recently remastered The Beatles 1964 and 1965 Live At The Hollywood Bowl concerts rightfully says on All Songs Considered when people ask him if The Beatles were a good live band,he says they were a great live band and he mention the very limited,primitive sound systems they had back then,and says how great The Beatles played live in the studio on their first 3 or 4 albums,and that they all played their instruments very good.

               

               

              He obviously means they played these first several albums live because they didn't even have any overdubbing until 1965 so they had to play and record those albums live.

               

              And their first albums before the great A Hard Day's Night album were recorded on only 2 track tape,they had 4 track by A Hard Day's Night and only 8 track for The White album,Let It Be and Abbey Road.

               

              By the time they recorded and played live their first album Please please Me recorded in only in one day in February 1963,they had 1000's of hours of live playing experience playing 8 hours a night from 1960-1962 in the sleazy strip clubs in Hamburg Germany and had to take speed pills to stay awake to do it,and John Lennon said every song was 20 minutes long,and had 20 minute solos in it.

               

               

              Then they played successfully live in the Liverpool Cavern Club for years before they made the Please Please Me album.

               

              http://www.npr.org/sections/allsongs/2016/08/25/491201322/all-songs-1-the-beatles-are-live-and-sounding-better-than-ever

               

              All Songs +1: The Beatles Are Live And Sounding Better Than Ever

               

               

              The Beatles were a great live band, but only three of their shows were ever professionally recorded. Now new technology takes those shows from The Hollywood Bowl and makes them sound better than ever.

               

              In this 2016 BBc interview Larry Kane who interviewed The Beatles from 1964-1966 and says he was at 46 Beatles concerts and there wasn't a bad one among them.

               

              He also said that he thinks Ron Howard's documentary (Eight Days A Week) is a reminder how good The Beatles were as musicians,that modern musicians will look at the puny sound equipment they had and will be amazed and that some concerts had the music going out on the stadiums public address systems.

               

              https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-37355216

               

              Larry Kane: The reluctant Beatles fan - BBC News

              Eight Days A Week - Ron Howard's new documentary about the Beatles' touring days in the 1960s - has contributions from familiar faces such as Sir Paul McCartney and Ringo Starr. Less expected is ...

               

               

               

              Rockumentary - Paul McCartney

               

              This very good 1990 MTV Paul McCartney rocumentary  the narrator rightly says McCartney has been many things over the last three decades, a hardcore rock and roller,a pure pop star,a trailblazing bassist,and the cutest guy in the worlds most popular band,but above all else from the beginning he's been a world class song writer. 

               

              The Beatles producer George Martin is also interviewed and he said that soon after he started to work with them in the recording studio,which was late 1962,early 1963,he said they emerged as pretty brilliant and started to really think about song writing in a very serious way.

               

               

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3G_CSLebNw

               

               

              Rockumentary - Paul McCartney

              Rockumentary - Paul McCartney

               

               

               

               

              Several Members Of The SH Forums So Correctly Debunk This Ludicrous Stupid Nonsense Calling The Early Beatles A Boy Band

               

               

              https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/6-reasons-a-beatles-like-phenomenon-cant-happen-again.403019/page-4#post-11593639

               

              https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/6-reasons-a-beatles-like-phenomenon-cant-happen-again.403019/page-21

               

               

              https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/6-reasons-a-beatles-like-phenomenon-cant-happen-again.403019/page-23

               

               

              https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/stones-v-beatles-breakup.587250/page-12

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

              This is a great 2011 article about Goldmine Magazine's readers poll voted The Beatles The Best Overall, The Song Writing Team Of Lennon and McCartney

               

              And the author of this article Gillian Gaar says what I have always said and pointed out,that as early as December 1963 music critic of The London  Times William Mann called John Lennon and Paul McCartney the outstanding English composers of 1963 and he analysed and praised the clever,unusual complex chords they wrote even in their early songs like She Loves you etc.

               

               And In this article it also says the the music critic of  The Sunday London Times ( Hunter Davies says in his great  1968 only authorized Beatles biography called,The Beatles which he updated several times that it was classical music critic Richard Buckle) who called John and Paul the 2 greatest composers since Beethoven after they composed music for a ballet,Mods and Rockers.

               

              Gillian Garr also says what I have always said, that John Lennon and Paul McCartney wrote songs at such a prodigious rate in 1963 and 1964 that they supplied numerous other artists with hit songs as well as looking after the interests of their own group. He doesn't mention the music artists they wrote for in 1963,Billy J.Kramer and The Dakotas, Celia Black,Peter and Gordon and the rock n roll song I Wanna Be Your Man for The Rolling Stones which became one of their first hits. 

               

              And John and Paul wrote it right in front of them and Mick Jagger and Keith Richards were really impressed that they could just write a song just like that,and it inspired them to start writing their own songs and both bands became good friends from then on and Mick Jagger was at 4 Beatles recording sessions and Keith Richards was at 2 of them with him.Mick Jagger also went on the train with The Beatles to Bangor Wales in August 1967 to meet the Maharishi to meditate for the first time and he was with them there when they got the call that their manager Brian Epstein was dead.

               

               

              In Paul McCartney's biography,Many Years From Now Mick Jagger's girlfriend from the 1960's says that she and Mick would often go over to Paul's house and hang out in his music room,she said they always went to him,because he was Paul McCartney and she said that Mick was really intimidated by Paul but that Paul was completely oblivious to this. 

               

              Paul says that he turned Mick Jagger on to pot in his music room,and he said which is funny because most people would think it was the other way around.

               

               

              http://www.goldminemag.com/features/best-overall-the-beatles

               

               

               

               A Definitive List of The Musicians Who Influenced Our Lives The Most.The Beatles are number 1 in 2017. And they are the only music artists in the 1,000's.This is from research data The All Music Guide complied.Queen aren't even on the list at all.

               

               

              A definitive list of the musicians who influenced our lives most

               

               

              Beyond The Beatles: The 100 most influential musicians of ...

               

               

              THE REAL HALL OF FAME A definitive list of the musicians who influenced our lives most

               

               

              https://qz.com/1094962/a-definitive-list-of-the-musicians-who-influenced-our-lives-most/

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

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              He also quotes VH1's vice president of motion pictures Michael Larkin  who says this film depicts them as they really were,the first boy band.

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

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              He also quotes VH1's vice president of motion pictures Michael Larkin  who says this film depicts them as they really were,the first boy band.

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

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              He also quotes VH1's vice president of motion pictures Michael Larkin  who says this film depicts them as they really were,the first boy band.

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

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              He also quotes VH1's vice president of motion pictures Michael Larkin  who says this film depicts them as they really were,the first boy band.

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

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              He also quotes vice president of motion pictures Michael Larkin who says this film decepicts The Monkees as they really were,the first boy band.

               

              University of Pennsylvania ( 1 of the top ivy league universities in the US) graduate musicologist Alan W.Pollack who did an 11 year extensive analysis of every one of the 200 Beatles songs,analyzes Ask Me Why and explains that it's structurally complex.

              http://www.icce.rug.nl/~soundscapes/DATABASES/AWP/amw.shtml

               

               

              Here is Alan's analysis of Paul McCartney's 1963 very good song All My Loving and he describes it as having a lot of complex chords and other unusual musical things.Many people  have pointed out on music and Beatles fan site forums that John Lennon played great,difficult fast rhythm guitar triplets,well it turns out John( and George and Paul on bass) was playing a whole bunch of complex chords this fast and great!

               

               

               

              http://www.icce.rug.nl/~soundscapes/DATABASES/AWP/aml.shtml

               

               

               

              This is just about the fussiest, most complicated form we've yet seen. You can sort of parse it as a mutant version of the two-bridge model, but what is most notable ... Here is Alan's whole Beatles song analysis series 

               

              Alan W. Pollack's Notes on ... Series - ICCE WWW Info ...

               

               

              In 1989 the American musicologist Alan W. Pollack started to analyze the songs of the Beatles. He published his first results on internet. In 1991 — after he had finished the work on 28 songs — he bravely decided to do the whole lot of them.

               

               

              www.icce.rug.nl

               

               In 1989 the American musicologist Alan W. Pollack started to analyze the songs of the Beatles. He published his first results on internet. In 1991 — after he had ...

               

               

               

              Here is an interview with University of Pennsylvania graduate (1 op the top universities in the US) musicologist Alan Pollack who did an 11 year study of all 200 Beatles songs, here he says The Beatles specifically John and Paul wrote what he calls chord anomalies which are very clever complex unusual including in their early music, and he said  about  these chord anomalies in their early music that people tend to underrate the first half of their catalog in this respect.

               

               

               

               

              http://www.icce.rug.nl/~soundscapes/DATABASES/AWP/interview.shtml

               

              Alan W. Pollack's Notes on ... Series - ICCE WWW Info ...

               

              In 1989 the American musicologist Alan W. Pollack started to analyze the songs of the Beatles. He published his first results on internet. In 1991 — after he had finished the work on 28 songs — he bravely decided to do the whole lot of them.

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

               

                University of Pennsylvania ( 1 of the top ivy league universities in the US) graduate musicologist Alan W.Pollack who did an 11 year extensive analysis of every one of the 200 Beatles songs,analyzes Ask Me Why and explains that it's structurally complex.

                 

                http://www.icce.rug.nl/~soundscapes/DATABASES/AWP/amw.shtml

                 

                Here is Alan's analysis of Paul McCartney's 1963 very good song All My Loving and he describes it as having a lot of complex chords and other unusual musical things.Many people  have pointed out on music and Beatles fan site forums that John Lennon played great,difficult fast rhythm guitar triplets,well it turns out John( and George and Paul on bass) was playing a whole bunch of complex chords this fast and great!

                 

                 

                http://www.icce.rug.nl/~soundscapes/DATABASES/AWP/aml.shtml

                 

                 

                 

                 

                 

                 

                This is just about the fussiest, most complicated form we've yet seen. You can sort of parse it as a mutant version of the two-bridge model, but what is most notable ... Here is Alan's whole Beatles song analysis series 

                 

                 

                 

                 

                Alan W. Pollack's Notes on ... Series - ICCE WWW Info ...

                 

                 

                 

                In 1989 the American musicologist Alan W. Pollack started to analyze the songs of the Beatles. He published his first results on internet. In 1991 — after he had finished the work on 28 songs — he bravely decided to do the whole lot of them.

                 

                 

                 

                 

                www.icce.rug.nl

                 

                 

                 

                 

                 In 1989 the American musicologist Alan W. Pollack started to analyze the songs of the Beatles. He published his first results on internet. In 1991 — after he had ...

                 

                 

                 

                 

                 

                Here is an interview with University of Pennsylvania graduate (1 op the top universities in the US) musicologist Alan Pollack who did an 11 year study of all 200 Beatles songs, here he says The Beatles specifically John and Paul wrote what he calls chord anomalies which are very clever complex unusual

                 including in their early music, and he said  about  these chord anomalies in their early music that people tend to underrate the first half of their catalog in this respect.

                 

                 

                http://www.icce.rug.nl/~soundscapes/DATABASES/AWP/interview.shtml

                 

                 

                Alan W. Pollack's Notes on ... Series - ICCE WWW Info ...

                 

                 

                 

                 

                In 1989 the American musicologist Alan W. Pollack started to analyze the songs of the Beatles. He published his first results on internet. In 1991 — after he had finished the work on 28 songs — he bravely decided to do the whole lot of them.

                  Here is Alan's whole series analyzing every Beatles song,Notes On... 

                   

                  http://www.icce.rug.nl/~soundscapes/DATABASES/AWP/awp-notes_on.shtml

                   

                  And here is the interview with Alan about the early Beatles writing and playing complex unusual chords.

                   

                  http://www.icce.rug.nl/~soundscapes/DATABASES/AWP/interview.shtml

                   

                  Here is my Beatles Pinterest board with a lot more new great information,

                   

                  https://www.pinterest.com/topazthecat1000/

                   

                  Musicologist,Beatles expert,musician,Scott Freiman who is the author of the book,and video series lectures,Deconstructing The Beatles Chords, Interview The Beatles:What Made Them Unique? They Had 3 Very Strong Song Writers Who Honed Their Craft By Playing 1000's and 1000's of hours together, and this was by the time they recorded and played live on their first album,Please Please Me all in one day in February 1963.

                   

                  What Was Important About Hamburg Germany To The Beatles Success As A Band? 1000's of hours of live playing experience

                   

                  https://www.gradesaver.com/outliers/q-and-a/what-was-important-about-hamburg-germany-and-the-beatles-success-as-a-band-291552

                   

                   What was important about Hamburg, Germany and the Beatles success as a band? Outliers Questions Q & A GradeSaver In 1960, while they were still an unknown high school rock band, the Beatles went to Hamburg, Germany to play in the local clubs. The group was underpaid. The acoustics were terrible. The audiences were unappreciative. So what did the Beatles get out of the Hamburg experience? Hours of playing time ... 

                   

                   And Beatles expert musicologist,musician,Scott Freiman who is the creator of the video series,lectures and book,Deconstructing The Beatles Chords in different lecture videos about all of their albums says here in this interview called,The Beatles:What Made Them Unique? Scott rightly says that they were a group with 4 very strong writers who had honed their craft by playing 1000's and 1000's of hours of playing. 

                   

                   

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlF2ycst7KI The Beatles: What Made Them Unique? - 

                   

                   

                  Scott Freiman Unreleased footage from my film "What is Classic Rock?"

                   

                   

                   

                   

                   

                    The Beatles were a boy band though. 

                      nobodytoldme wrote:

                      The Beatles were a boy band though. 

                        nobodytoldme wrote:

                        The Beatles were a boy band though. 

                        Although the phrase wouldn't be coined till decades later, the Beatles were absolutely regarded by the grown-up world as what we now call a boy band. Everyone assumed they were a passing teenage fad that would blow over in a year or two. They of course proved to be more massively talented than anyone understood in 1963-64, but songs like "She Loves  You"really are prototypical boy band songs -- albeit very, very good ones.

                          Bruce M. wrote:

                          nobodytoldme wrote:

                          The Beatles were a boy band though. 

                          Although the phrase wouldn't be coined till decades later, the Beatles were absolutely regarded by the grown-up world as what we now call a boy band. Everyone assumed they were a passing teenage fad that would blow over in a year or two. They of course proved to be more massively talented than anyone understood in 1963-64, but songs like "She Loves  You"really are prototypical boy band songs -- albeit very, very good ones.

                          You said it, Bruce! At least they played their own instruments, unlike the modern boy bands who only sing and dance! 

                            Yeah they sure were a boy band, they were a sausage fest (LOL)...but they sure did like the girls !!