The ..2012.... Political thread
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Updated Apr 23, 2010 - 2:49 pm Seattle cartoonist launches "Everybody Draw Mohammed Day" By JAMIE GRISWOLD MyNorthwest.com After Comedy Central cut a portion of a South Park episode following a death threat from a radical Muslim group, Seattle cartoonist Molly Norris wanted to counter the fear. She has declared May 20th "Everybody Draw Mohammed Day." Norris told KIRO Radio's Dave Ross that cartoonists are meant to challenge the lines of political correctness. "That's a cartoonist's job, to be non-PC." complete article with poster & other creative stuff http://www.mynorthwest.com/?nid=11&sid=313170#
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radical christians and radical muslims make death threats...yet most christians and most muslims do not...what does that tell you?
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Andy_Shofar:
Updated Apr 23, 2010 - 2:49 pm Seattle cartoonist launches "Everybody Draw Mohammed Day" By JAMIE GRISWOLD MyNorthwest.com After Comedy Central cut a portion of a South Park episode following a death threat from a radical Muslim group, Seattle cartoonist Molly Norris wanted to counter the fear. She has declared May 20th "Everybody Draw Mohammed Day." Norris told KIRO Radio's Dave Ross that cartoonists are meant to challenge the lines of political correctness. "That's a cartoonist's job, to be non-PC." complete article with poster & other creative stuff http://www.mynorthwest.com/?nid=11&sid=313170#
She has guts And she is making a point that needs to be made ... To those that cannot ever be humored .... Those who prefer violence, homocide over laughter, conversation, peace, and/or debate ...
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Andy_Shofar:
Andy_Shofar:
Updated Apr 23, 2010 - 2:49 pm Seattle cartoonist launches "Everybody Draw Mohammed Day" By JAMIE GRISWOLD MyNorthwest.com After Comedy Central cut a portion of a South Park episode following a death threat from a radical Muslim group, Seattle cartoonist Molly Norris wanted to counter the fear. She has declared May 20th "Everybody Draw Mohammed Day." Norris told KIRO Radio's Dave Ross that cartoonists are meant to challenge the lines of political correctness. "That's a cartoonist's job, to be non-PC." complete article with poster & other creative stuff http://www.mynorthwest.com/?nid=11&sid=313170#
She has guts And she is making a point that needs to be made ... To those that cannot ever be humored ....
Pretty sad when a cartoonist, humorist, editorial ...etc.. cannot express themselves without worry that it could be a death sentence. Now - if they were told by a group that they over stepped - or that group refused to buy papers, watch the show - or refused to support the sponsors -- and other legal things -- it might all be understandable .... sad. .....
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The_Fool:
Andy_Shofar:
Andy_Shofar:
Updated Apr 23, 2010 - 2:49 pm Seattle cartoonist launches "Everybody Draw Mohammed Day" By JAMIE GRISWOLD MyNorthwest.com After Comedy Central cut a portion of a South Park episode following a death threat from a radical Muslim group, Seattle cartoonist Molly Norris wanted to counter the fear. She has declared May 20th "Everybody Draw Mohammed Day." Norris told KIRO Radio's Dave Ross that cartoonists are meant to challenge the lines of political correctness. "That's a cartoonist's job, to be non-PC." complete article with poster & other creative stuff http://www.mynorthwest.com/?nid=11&sid=313170#
She has guts And she is making a point that needs to be made ... To those that cannot ever be humored ....
Pretty sad when a cartoonist, humorist, editorial ...etc.. cannot express themselves without worry that it could be a death sentence. Now - if they were told by a group that they over stepped - or that group refused to buy papers, watch the show - or refused to support the sponsors -- and other legal things -- it might all be understandable .... sad. .....
I think the time is long ovder due that all those who make threats on someone's life do some serious time in prison (15 years minimum, with no deals) and more if they start taking things into their own hands. We need to have the guts to persue all those sorts (even into other countries) and bring them to justice. All of us should be able to enjoy peaceful freedom of speech (comedy), without fear.
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Andy, freedom of speech isn't yet enjoyed by the entire world. Did you happen to catch "60 minutes" last night?? Interesting piece about "the narrative". There was a cartoonist in Sweden (?) that was also threatened. People make threats in the heat of the moment. I do not think they should be jailed, though I do understand what you mean.
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jaipur:
Andy, freedom of speech isn't yet enjoyed by the entire world. Did you happen to catch "60 minutes" last night?? Interesting piece about "the narrative". There was a cartoonist in Sweden (?) that was also threatened. People make threats in the heat of the moment. I do not think they should be jailed, though I do understand what you mean.
Even in America, we do not have the freedom of speech to yell, "Fire!" in a theatre and not pay a consequence. Likewise, people everywhere in the "free world" should not have to worry about a nutcase making a death threat. Those nutcases should all get a lock up (well, as far as I'm concerned) No, I didn't see 60 minutes (of torture ) last night - seriously speaking I have enjoyed the program. Yes, I do know about the Sweedish artist, and about a few other similar cases over the years (especially in Europe).
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I think using the Dixie Chicks is a better description of how American really don't believe in Freedom of Speech.. Or the Tea Partier screaming down citizen who opposed there views on health care reform. The Bush years came close too the McCarthyism years if it didn't succeed them. If the way the Dixie Chicks were tar and feather and radio station refused to play their song for making a honest opinion about there feeling about Bush isn't a reality check about how this country is going.. Just think if Bob Dylan had the kind of pressure as a artist as today artist do. You write the wrong protest song today and your finished. Who fault is that. I think the government for not cracking down on take over od media by certain religious and political groups..When the country western station can can boycott a aritist for there views it flat wrong.
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Everybody Draw Mohammed Day May 20th, 2010 A google of the topic is worthy of a few moments for self discovery. Here's one video posted on YouTube:
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Since 1773
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appletart2:
I think using the Dixie Chicks is a better description of how American really don't believe in Freedom of Speech.. Or the Tea Partier screaming down citizen who opposed there views on health care reform.
But they ARE for certain kinds of "freedoms"! Their pick for Kentucky's Republican senator is proof enough. They want the "freedom" to be racist. Time after time, we see example after example of what it is these people believe and want. They benefit from government subsidized health coverage but scream in fury because Rush Limbaugh tells them "welfare queens" (ie black women) are profiting. They benefit from immigrants, including non-documented workers (every study not by these racist, ignorant people demonstrates that non-documented workers raise the wages of citizens, which of course why neither party is much interested in stopping it), but they can't bare the thought that people from Mexico may, just may, be getting by. The scream about big government (look at silly posts on this thread!) but want to keep on growing the biggest parts of government in the military. They say they're for freedom and competition but support policies that have allowed gigantic corporations to become what they are. Every damn Tea Partier (who is just the more ideological version of the average Republican) wants "freedom". It's just a kind of freedom, to perpetuate inequality, to let the true welfare queens in big corporations off the hook, to make their best effort and maintaining the hierarchy of races in the US. I just wish they'd stop pretending. Be proud of the freedoms you want Republicans and Tea Partiers!
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peacetrain:
But they ARE for certain kinds of "freedoms"! Their pick for Kentucky's Republican senator is proof enough. They want the "freedom" to be racist. Time after time, we see example after example of what it is these people believe and want. They benefit from government subsidized health coverage but scream in fury because Rush Limbaugh tells them "welfare queens" (ie black women) are profiting. They benefit from immigrants, including non-documented workers (every study not by these racist, ignorant people demonstrates that non-documented workers raise the wages of citizens, which of course why neither party is much interested in stopping it), but they can't bare the thought that people from Mexico may, just may, be getting by. The scream about big government (look at silly posts on this thread!) but want to keep on growing the biggest parts of government in the military. They say they're for freedom and competition but support policies that have allowed gigantic corporations to become what they are. Every damn Tea Partier (who is just the more ideological version of the average Republican) wants "freedom". It's just a kind of freedom, to perpetuate inequality, to let the true welfare queens in big corporations off the hook, to make their best effort and maintaining the hierarchy of races in the US. I just wish they'd stop pretending. Be proud of the freedoms you want Republicans and Tea Partiers!
It is this kind of naivete', apathy and ignorance that accounts for why the USA is going straight down the toilet. We get the kind of government we deserve.
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So they closed the McCartney insulting Bush board and redirected them here. I was wondering what took them so long. Hopefully the people who got so insulted just go away..we all know there part of the same crowd that buses themselves into towns trying to get the Dem unseated in every election. You guys are so organized and you not kidding anyone..burn Paul records. Yea big talk considering you don't own any.
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appletart2:
So they closed the McCartney insulting Bush board and redirected them here. I was wondering what took them so long. Hopefully the people who got so insulted just go away..we all know there part of the same crowd that buses themselves into towns trying to get the Dem unseated in every election. You guys are so organized and you not kidding anyone..burn Paul records. Yea big talk considering you don't own any.
It seems unlikely that this will just die out...
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the times they are a-changing Congressman Etheridge ... read it / see it for your self http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=7496362
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EADG:
appletart2:
So they closed the McCartney insulting Bush board and redirected them here. I was wondering what took them so long. Hopefully the people who got so insulted just go away..we all know there part of the same crowd that buses themselves into towns trying to get the Dem unseated in every election. You guys are so organized and you not kidding anyone..burn Paul records. Yea big talk considering you don't own any.
It seems unlikely that this will just die out...
If no one responds to you it will die out because you will just be debating yourself. We all support Paul here. Bush was an a..hole and he's no longer in office so get over it. Good riddance.
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beatlesfanrandy:
EADG:
appletart2:
So they closed the McCartney insulting Bush board and redirected them here. I was wondering what took them so long. Hopefully the people who got so insulted just go away..we all know there part of the same crowd that buses themselves into towns trying to get the Dem unseated in every election. You guys are so organized and you not kidding anyone..burn Paul records. Yea big talk considering you don't own any.
It seems unlikely that this will just die out...
If no one responds to you it will die out because you will just be debating yourself. We all support Paul here. Bush was an a..hole and he's no longer in office so get over it. Good riddance.
I don't care for his replacement either .... That being said .... his words won't stop me from listening to Paul's music and going to his concerts when and if at all ever possible (and enjoying every minute of the show )
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The_Fool:
beatlesfanrandy:
EADG:
appletart2:
So they closed the McCartney insulting Bush board and redirected them here. I was wondering what took them so long. Hopefully the people who got so insulted just go away..we all know there part of the same crowd that buses themselves into towns trying to get the Dem unseated in every election. You guys are so organized and you not kidding anyone..burn Paul records. Yea big talk considering you don't own any.
It seems unlikely that this will just die out...
If no one responds to you it will die out because you will just be debating yourself. We all support Paul here. Bush was an a..hole and he's no longer in office so get over it. Good riddance.
I don't care for his replacement either .... That being said .... his words won't stop me from listening to Paul's music and going to his concerts when and if at all ever possible (and enjoying every minute of the show )
I love his replacement but fully expect to hear jokes about his Presidency. No human is above reproach. Unfortunately the only jokes that are being said are ones that most of us wouldn't even say about President Dumbass, calling him Hitler and now Babykiller. Those are the only things that are uncalled for. This was, for many - not me, a how dare he moment but for them they can't move on. Life did not change. The world as we know it is still, temporarily, here. Again, I have to ask those that felt insulted by the comment "What are you so afraid of?" I've asked this a number of times but no one has had the guts to try to come up with an answer.
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beatlechick:
The_Fool:
beatlesfanrandy:
EADG:
appletart2:
So they closed the McCartney insulting Bush board and redirected them here. I was wondering what took them so long. Hopefully the people who got so insulted just go away..we all know there part of the same crowd that buses themselves into towns trying to get the Dem unseated in every election. You guys are so organized and you not kidding anyone..burn Paul records. Yea big talk considering you don't own any.
It seems unlikely that this will just die out...
If no one responds to you it will die out because you will just be debating yourself. We all support Paul here. Bush was an a..hole and he's no longer in office so get over it. Good riddance.
I don't care for his replacement either .... That being said .... his words won't stop me from listening to Paul's music and going to his concerts when and if at all ever possible (and enjoying every minute of the show )
I love his replacement but fully expect to hear jokes about his Presidency. No human is above reproach. Unfortunately the only jokes that are being said are ones that most of us wouldn't even say about President Dumbass, calling him Hitler and now Babykiller. Those are the only things that are uncalled for. This was, for many - not me, a how dare he moment but for them they can't move on. Life did not change. The world as we know it is still, temporarily, here. Again, I have to ask those that felt insulted by the comment "What are you so afraid of?" I've asked this a number of times but no one has had the guts to try to come up with an answer.
This is kind of amusing. I just remarked that I didn't think that the cotroversy was going to die out. I didn't say anything about who was right or wrong. And the responses have all been defensive of Paul and in one case abusive towards George Bush. Nobody from the other side has commented. Why are you being so sensitive?
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So what do you think of Joe Barton remarks..He apologized to a British company for destroying our gulf and apologized for them having to put up 22 billion dollars in a escrow account.. 22 billion was appx 1/4 earning for BP for the year. I thinking we need a claw back clause with BP and take all profits for the last 10 years.