EGYPT STATION
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Kestrel wrote:
Frank wrote:
joeysmith2 wrote:
Has Egypt Station reached Platinum sales yet? It's a big seller for Paul.
Unfortunately not anywhere near. It dropped to 152( I believe) on Billboard. Hopefully it’ll go gold during the second leg of US shows next year. By the way ES is proving staying power on the German Charts : 1 - 4 - 11 - 15 - 16. Way smaller market than the US but bigger than UK. And still no German live dates....
Currently #92 in the UK after just 5 weeks on the chart.
Barring some major new publicity, the album's sales run in the U.S. is pretty much over. That's typical for older artists, alas -- a good week or two, then pfffftttt...
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Bruce M. wrote:
Kestrel wrote:
Frank wrote:
joeysmith2 wrote:
Has Egypt Station reached Platinum sales yet? It's a big seller for Paul.
Unfortunately not anywhere near. It dropped to 152( I believe) on Billboard. Hopefully it’ll go gold during the second leg of US shows next year. By the way ES is proving staying power on the German Charts : 1 - 4 - 11 - 15 - 16. Way smaller market than the US but bigger than UK. And still no German live dates....
Currently #92 in the UK after just 5 weeks on the chart.
Barring some major new publicity, the album's sales run in the U.S. is pretty much over. That's typical for older artists, alas -- a good week or two, then pfffftttt...
Its just as well that Paul has done a lot of well received publicity for the album otherwise the album would have made even less of an impact. Had Egypt Station been a classic album, like Band On The Run for example, an album that would have appealed to rock fans generally and not just McCartney fans then it would have sold a lot more copies. As it is, ES is fairly mediocre and is only really appealing to an ever shrinking audience, who are literally dying out.
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Bruce M. wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
Kestrel wrote:
wingsoverkc wrote:
Oh Kestrel, Kestrel, Kestrel. I, on the other hand, can't stop playing Egypt Station. I can easily say that I have played this breathtaking album at least 25 times since downloading it one minute after midnight on September 7.
You've paid your money and you're enjoying it and,at the end of the day,that's all that matters.
Personally I think in 10 years time people will look back and judge it as just another 'average' Paul album, not bad by other peoples standards but nothing like what he's capable of producing.
Disagree with your point because it has been received very well by the critics and no matter what else is said it was #1 album in the US. I fully expect it will gather Grammy nominations and who knows he may actually win. Correct me if I am wrong but I have read it a few times that people have said this album reminds them a bit of RAM which most McCartney fans love. Maybe the album will not age well, we will see. I think BOTR will always be the top non-Beatle album in people's eyes but I have a feeling Egypt Station will probably be a top 5 McCartney solo album for most McCartney fans.
This will be an unpopular opinion, but I think Egypt Station is far better than Band on the Run. It has more depth, more texture, more heart. Band on the Run is a terrific piece of pop craftsmanship, but's always been just a shade too slick for my taste. Egypt Station is the real deal.
I love your passion, Bruce. And I really, really like Egypt Station. Even to this day, it is still growing on me..... And I'm loving it more with every listen... I'm enjoying the shite out of it... But I will take Band On the Run.... and I think it might be because I have been seduced by the romanticism of the past.... As a second-generation Beatle fan, it was an album I listened to in 'retrospect'.... for some reason, it holds the album closer than the present.... It makes no sense, but I know why.... But I am loving Egypt Station.... got it on my headphones right now.
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Kestrel wrote:
Bruce M. wrote:
Kestrel wrote:
Frank wrote:
joeysmith2 wrote:
Has Egypt Station reached Platinum sales yet? It's a big seller for Paul.
Unfortunately not anywhere near. It dropped to 152( I believe) on Billboard. Hopefully it’ll go gold during the second leg of US shows next year. By the way ES is proving staying power on the German Charts : 1 - 4 - 11 - 15 - 16. Way smaller market than the US but bigger than UK. And still no German live dates....
Currently #92 in the UK after just 5 weeks on the chart.
Barring some major new publicity, the album's sales run in the U.S. is pretty much over. That's typical for older artists, alas -- a good week or two, then pfffftttt...
Its just as well that Paul has done a lot of well received publicity for the album otherwise the album would have made even less of an impact. Had Egypt Station been a classic album, like Band On The Run for example, an album that would have appealed to rock fans generally and not just McCartney fans then it would have sold a lot more copies. As it is, ES is fairly mediocre and is only really appealing to an ever shrinking audience, who are literally dying out.
To be fair, it was Number One!.... I'll take that! Whether you like the album or not, and whether it is fading down the charts, it hit top spot.... and it is a great album! I'm sure in ten years I will still be listening more to Tug of War or Venus and Mars or Back to the Egg, or Band On The Run, but I will still be listening to Egpyt Station (every song but Come On To Me).
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toris wrote:
Kestrel wrote:
Bruce M. wrote:
Kestrel wrote:
Frank wrote:
joeysmith2 wrote:
Has Egypt Station reached Platinum sales yet? It's a big seller for Paul.
Unfortunately not anywhere near. It dropped to 152( I believe) on Billboard. Hopefully it’ll go gold during the second leg of US shows next year. By the way ES is proving staying power on the German Charts : 1 - 4 - 11 - 15 - 16. Way smaller market than the US but bigger than UK. And still no German live dates....
Currently #92 in the UK after just 5 weeks on the chart.
Barring some major new publicity, the album's sales run in the U.S. is pretty much over. That's typical for older artists, alas -- a good week or two, then pfffftttt...
Its just as well that Paul has done a lot of well received publicity for the album otherwise the album would have made even less of an impact. Had Egypt Station been a classic album, like Band On The Run for example, an album that would have appealed to rock fans generally and not just McCartney fans then it would have sold a lot more copies. As it is, ES is fairly mediocre and is only really appealing to an ever shrinking audience, who are literally dying out.
To be fair, it was Number One!.... I'll take that! Whether you like the album or not, and whether it is fading down the charts, it hit top spot.... and it is a great album! I'm sure in ten years I will still be listening more to Tug of War or Venus and Mars or Back to the Egg, or Band On The Run, but I will still be listening to Egpyt Station (every song but Come On To Me).
Completely agree ! 70‘s Macca is unbeatable. It‘s really impossible to say how ES will age for me BUT I do have the feeling that it will be an album I’ll still listen to in 10 years time. Unlike Memory or New which have fallen of my list entirely.
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Kestrel wrote:
Bruce M. wrote:
Kestrel wrote:
Frank wrote:
joeysmith2 wrote:
Has Egypt Station reached Platinum sales yet? It's a big seller for Paul.
Unfortunately not anywhere near. It dropped to 152( I believe) on Billboard. Hopefully it’ll go gold during the second leg of US shows next year. By the way ES is proving staying power on the German Charts : 1 - 4 - 11 - 15 - 16. Way smaller market than the US but bigger than UK. And still no German live dates....
Currently #92 in the UK after just 5 weeks on the chart.
Barring some major new publicity, the album's sales run in the U.S. is pretty much over. That's typical for older artists, alas -- a good week or two, then pfffftttt...
Its just as well that Paul has done a lot of well received publicity for the album otherwise the album would have made even less of an impact. Had Egypt Station been a classic album, like Band On The Run for example, an album that would have appealed to rock fans generally and not just McCartney fans then it would have sold a lot more copies. As it is, ES is fairly mediocre and is only really appealing to an ever shrinking audience, who are literally dying out.
Kestrel...to each his own but personally I don't think that ES is mediocre in the least. At this juncture and having heard the album many times, I believe ES is Paul's best Solo album. I have a hard time comparing Paul's solo stuff (1980 onward) to his 70's "top of the charts" era but as far as Solo only, I give ES a slight edge over Tug of War, Flaming Pie and Chaos.
As far as ES's overall "Sales"...it probably has had its "chart run" at this point but we will have to wait and see if there is any second wind. While you obviously can't compare the Band on the Run Paul era to today's current music climate, Band on the Run did have a massive "secong run" once the title track became the album's 3rd top 10 single in the US. It returned to #1 after about a year later from its US released date(I think this is true but the time might be off).
Unfortunately, Paul has not helped himself on ES Sales by only playing a couple of songs (and not the best ones on the album) on his subsequent "Freshen Up"tour. As others has said, it is "baffling" to me. It is inexplicable to me why Paul and the Band weren't ready to "play" at least 6 of the most inspiring ES songs. "Come On To Me" and "Fuh You" are good catchy songs but not nearly the best songs on ES. In today's internet/utube world, millions seeing "live versions" of the best ES songs, could have helped prolong ES Sales a little longer.
The other thing is that it seems non-logical to me that a second single (since the double sided "Come On To Me" and "I Don't know" was released way back in August) has not been released by now. Songs like Dominoes and Who Cares would have been great choices in my opinion.
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B J Conlee wrote:
Kestrel wrote:
Bruce M. wrote:
Kestrel wrote:
Frank wrote:
joeysmith2 wrote:
Has Egypt Station reached Platinum sales yet? It's a big seller for Paul.
Unfortunately not anywhere near. It dropped to 152( I believe) on Billboard. Hopefully it’ll go gold during the second leg of US shows next year. By the way ES is proving staying power on the German Charts : 1 - 4 - 11 - 15 - 16. Way smaller market than the US but bigger than UK. And still no German live dates....
Currently #92 in the UK after just 5 weeks on the chart.
Barring some major new publicity, the album's sales run in the U.S. is pretty much over. That's typical for older artists, alas -- a good week or two, then pfffftttt...
Its just as well that Paul has done a lot of well received publicity for the album otherwise the album would have made even less of an impact. Had Egypt Station been a classic album, like Band On The Run for example, an album that would have appealed to rock fans generally and not just McCartney fans then it would have sold a lot more copies. As it is, ES is fairly mediocre and is only really appealing to an ever shrinking audience, who are literally dying out.
Kestrel...to each his own but personally I don't think that ES is mediocre in the least. At this juncture and having heard the album many times, I believe ES is Paul's best Solo album. I have a hard time comparing Paul's solo stuff (1980 onward) to his 70's "top of the charts" era but as far as Solo only, I give ES a slight edge over Tug of War, Flaming Pie and Chaos.
As far as ES's overall "Sales"...it probably has had its "chart run" at this point but we will have to wait and see if there is any second wind. While you obviously can't compare the Band on the Run Paul era to today's current music climate, Band on the Run did have a massive "secong run" once the title track became the album's 3rd top 10 single in the US. It returned to #1 after about a year later from its US released date(I think this is true but the time might be off).
Unfortunately, Paul has not helped himself on ES Sales by only playing a couple of songs (and not the best ones on the album) on his subsequent "Freshen Up"tour. As others has said, it is "baffling" to me. It is inexplicable to me why Paul and the Band weren't ready to "play" at least 6 of the most inspiring ES songs. "Come On To Me" and "Fuh You" are good catchy songs but not nearly the best songs on ES. In today's internet/utube world, millions seeing "live versions" of the best ES songs, could have helped prolong ES Sales a little longer.
The other thing is that it seems non-logical to me that a second single (since the double sided "Come On To Me" and "I Don't know" was released way back in August) has not been released by now. Songs like Dominoes and Who Cares would have been great choices in my opinion.
I think he chose the wrong singles to kick off the upcoming album. How they are received/sound often defines how people who have heard them will perceive how good the upcoming album (from which they are from) will be. "Dominoes" and "Who Cares" would have gone over much better with not only to those of us who love Paul, but to casual fans and the general public as well. Those two songs have spunk and great energy.....stick in your head and have terrific lyrics. People could relate. While, critically, Paul may have gotten good reviews on ES, the singles did basically nothing except further plant in the heads of the general public the notion that Paul's best days are behind him. And he sounded just that way on the first two songs he released....tired; and no longer a relevant artist that has something to say and an interesting way of saying it; he became even more of a has been. Bad choices...to me. Sank the album before it ever came out.
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B J Conlee wrote:
Kestrel wrote:
Bruce M. wrote:
Kestrel wrote:
Frank wrote:
joeysmith2 wrote:
Has Egypt Station reached Platinum sales yet? It's a big seller for Paul.
Unfortunately not anywhere near. It dropped to 152( I believe) on Billboard. Hopefully it’ll go gold during the second leg of US shows next year. By the way ES is proving staying power on the German Charts : 1 - 4 - 11 - 15 - 16. Way smaller market than the US but bigger than UK. And still no German live dates....
Currently #92 in the UK after just 5 weeks on the chart.
Barring some major new publicity, the album's sales run in the U.S. is pretty much over. That's typical for older artists, alas -- a good week or two, then pfffftttt...
Its just as well that Paul has done a lot of well received publicity for the album otherwise the album would have made even less of an impact. Had Egypt Station been a classic album, like Band On The Run for example, an album that would have appealed to rock fans generally and not just McCartney fans then it would have sold a lot more copies. As it is, ES is fairly mediocre and is only really appealing to an ever shrinking audience, who are literally dying out.
Kestrel...to each his own but personally I don't think that ES is mediocre in the least. At this juncture and having heard the album many times, I believe ES is Paul's best Solo album. I have a hard time comparing Paul's solo stuff (1980 onward) to his 70's "top of the charts" era but as far as Solo only, I give ES a slight edge over Tug of War, Flaming Pie and Chaos.
As far as ES's overall "Sales"...it probably has had its "chart run" at this point but we will have to wait and see if there is any second wind. While you obviously can't compare the Band on the Run Paul era to today's current music climate, Band on the Run did have a massive "secong run" once the title track became the album's 3rd top 10 single in the US. It returned to #1 after about a year later from its US released date(I think this is true but the time might be off).
Unfortunately, Paul has not helped himself on ES Sales by only playing a couple of songs (and not the best ones on the album) on his subsequent "Freshen Up"tour. As others has said, it is "baffling" to me. It is inexplicable to me why Paul and the Band weren't ready to "play" at least 6 of the most inspiring ES songs. "Come On To Me" and "Fuh You" are good catchy songs but not nearly the best songs on ES. In today's internet/utube world, millions seeing "live versions" of the best ES songs, could have helped prolong ES Sales a little longer.
The other thing is that it seems non-logical to me that a second single (since the double sided "Come On To Me" and "I Don't know" was released way back in August) has not been released by now. Songs like Dominoes and Who Cares would have been great choices in my opinion.
Tough to rate the top solo albums BJ, I would slightly differ with you. CHAOS is still my #1, just find it haunting and flawless. In addition, his vocals are still wonderful. It is toss up for me between "Egypt Station" and TOW, each are very good but have a some minor flaws. That being said, I don't find anything on "Egypt Station" as good as songs like "Wanderlust", "Here Today", "Take It Away" and "Tug Of War" on TOW. So I would have CHAOS #1 followed by TOW and then "Egypt Station". Just my opinion, no right or wrong - lol. Once again, I will agree with you regarding McCartney's choices of singles, "Who Cares" being a single should have been a no brainer. Song rocks, lyrics are relevant to the world we live in and it is radio friendly but what the heck do I know - ha ha.
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My cousin texted me last night that he had heard one of the new songs on the radio the other day (not sure which one) which then prompted him to go look for it, and he ended up purchasing the whole album. He loves it! This was the first Paul album he's ever purchased.
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Frank wrote:
toris wrote:
Kestrel wrote:
Bruce M. wrote:
Kestrel wrote:
Frank wrote:
joeysmith2 wrote:
Has Egypt Station reached Platinum sales yet? It's a big seller for Paul.
Unfortunately not anywhere near. It dropped to 152( I believe) on Billboard. Hopefully it’ll go gold during the second leg of US shows next year. By the way ES is proving staying power on the German Charts : 1 - 4 - 11 - 15 - 16. Way smaller market than the US but bigger than UK. And still no German live dates....
Currently #92 in the UK after just 5 weeks on the chart.
Barring some major new publicity, the album's sales run in the U.S. is pretty much over. That's typical for older artists, alas -- a good week or two, then pfffftttt...
Its just as well that Paul has done a lot of well received publicity for the album otherwise the album would have made even less of an impact. Had Egypt Station been a classic album, like Band On The Run for example, an album that would have appealed to rock fans generally and not just McCartney fans then it would have sold a lot more copies. As it is, ES is fairly mediocre and is only really appealing to an ever shrinking audience, who are literally dying out.
To be fair, it was Number One!.... I'll take that! Whether you like the album or not, and whether it is fading down the charts, it hit top spot.... and it is a great album! I'm sure in ten years I will still be listening more to Tug of War or Venus and Mars or Back to the Egg, or Band On The Run, but I will still be listening to Egpyt Station (every song but Come On To Me).
Completely agree ! 70‘s Macca is unbeatable. It‘s really impossible to say how ES will age for me BUT I do have the feeling that it will be an album I’ll still listen to in 10 years time. Unlike Memory or New which have fallen of my list entirely.
100% disagree. Paul's stuff from Flaming Pie forward, with a couple exceptions, runs rings around his '70s output, which was highly commercial and entertaining but mostly had the depth of a marshmallow. I've never bought into the mythology around Band on the Run. A good album? Absolutely. A masterpiece? No.
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paulfan11 wrote:
My cousin texted me last night that he had heard one of the new songs on the radio the other day (not sure which one) which then prompted him to go look for it, and he ended up purchasing the whole album. He loves it! This was the first Paul album he's ever purchased.
It was almost certainly Come On To Me or Ceasar Rock (the latter has been promoted to Triple A radio and is getting a modest reception, not nearly the amount of play that COTM got on Triple A and then AC, but a few stations have been playing it regularly).
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70''s material overrated??? I can't believe what I'm reading. There's a damn good reason that Paul was the 2nd most successful solo act of the decade behind only Elton John. Being overplayed doesn't diminish how great the material is. Song for song BOTR is a melodic masterpiece and nothing Paul did post 80s can even compare.
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Have to say the songs are catchy
a proper promotion for it
think Paul has woken up some people with this album
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joeysmith2 wrote:
70''s material overrated??? I can't believe what I'm reading. There's a damn good reason that Paul was the 2nd most successful solo act of the decade behind only Elton John. Being overplayed doesn't diminish how great the material is. Song for song BOTR is a melodic masterpiece and nothing Paul did post 80s can even compare.
Bono said in Rolling Stone mag years ago that "Wings was the best band of the 70's." I wish they'd been more prolific. I agree with Cousin Brucie M. of San Fran that Egypt Station is superior to Band on the Run, with greater depth in the lyrics, more texture and interest and maturity in the music, etc. It's often another gorgeous masterpiece from Macca. "Despite Repeated Warnings" (I nearly wrote "Warmings" instead of "Warnings" which would have been appropriate) and "People Want Peace" rival similar Macca epic anthems like "Wanderlust," "The Pound Is Sinking," etc. "Happy With You" and "Hand in Hand" are such sweet love ditties; "Do It Now" is so rich in melody and emotion and meaning. Even the rather unfortunately named, perhaps, "Fuh You" grew on me by leaps and bounds after initially seeming sort of a fluffy throwaway afterthought sort of tune. It's insanely catchy. I think I may be tiring of "Come On To Me" and that it's just silly, but then it sneaks up, turns around, and tickles me all over again with its audacious, irresistably impish qualities. So cheeky ! It makes one's cheeks turn pink ! You don't need blush-on. "Caesar Rock" stimulates, is rousing... "Who Cares" is simply delightful. The medley at the end that includes "Naked" and "C-Link" is intriguing, as is the last "station." The first station is literally heavenly, with its celestial heavenly choir saluting and celebrating the raptures ahead on the sonic journey to another scintillating Paul paradise
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Kestrel wrote:
Bruce M. wrote:
Kestrel wrote:
Frank wrote:
joeysmith2 wrote:
Has Egypt Station reached Platinum sales yet? It's a big seller for Paul.
Unfortunately not anywhere near. It dropped to 152( I believe) on Billboard. Hopefully it’ll go gold during the second leg of US shows next year. By the way ES is proving staying power on the German Charts : 1 - 4 - 11 - 15 - 16. Way smaller market than the US but bigger than UK. And still no German live dates....
Currently #92 in the UK after just 5 weeks on the chart.
Barring some major new publicity, the album's sales run in the U.S. is pretty much over. That's typical for older artists, alas -- a good week or two, then pfffftttt...
Its just as well that Paul has done a lot of well received publicity for the album otherwise the album would have made even less of an impact.ne Had Egypt Station been a classic album, like Band On The Run for example, an album that would have appealed to rock fans gerally and not just McCartney fans then it would have sold a lot more copies. As it is, ES is fairly mediocre and is only really appealing to an ever shrinking audience, who are literally dying out.
Had ES been eleased by Paul in the 70's it would have been considered a classic album. It's the timing...not the music. Had BOTR been issued now it would have met the exact same fate as ES. Would that have made it mediocre? ES is not mediocre. I do agree that it's the shrinking audience. Period!
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I forgot to include "I Don't Know" and "Dominoes" I think, in my most recent run down of my reactions to "Egypt Station" songs. At first "I Don't Know" didn't make much of an impression on me, but with repeated, deeper consideration I see it's yet another corker, there is so much there I didn't grasp upon first hearing it. It really moves me. "Dominoes" shines brightly. "Egypt Station" is another glorious gorgeous Jewel in the Crown for McCartney that sparkles with so many kinds of gems, scintillating variety; another classic Paul album like "Chaos and Creation, " "Tug of War," "Flowers in the Dirt," and others. I'm sad for music fans who lack discerning ears and depths of emotion and appreciation for what is great and can't hear this remarkable album as it deserves and who mainly want something that "rocks, man." All the way through. Not everything has to "rock." There's rockers on this too, ya know.
Paul sounds a bit more British "posh" when he talks, now, as if he's been hanging out a lot with Jeremy Irons at his castle. I love it. Some of "Egypt Station" sounds so English, as if it could be titled "England Station" though that doesn't have the same ring to it. Someone on another site came out with the striking line, "England is more than Royals and Rain," which I thought might inspire me to pen a ditty about this chilly unique island, but then you think, "who the heck could top Penny Lane," LOL and "English Rain," etc. "Uncle Albert" is dripping with it, the Brit ambience and "Let 'Em In"--so many. I adore them. The Beatles and Shakespeare really put Ol' Blighty on the map along with having the first King and Queen in their royal palace and all that, in ancient times. In a way. The Legend of King Arthur and the Knights of the Round Table of Camelot imparts shivers, but not like Beatles and post-Fabs solo music which is far more exciting, stimulating and replenishing than dry history lessons that feature too many bloody battles, way too much war. Dame Iris Murdoch also does it for me. (laughs gayly)
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joeysmith2 wrote:
70''s material overrated??? I can't believe what I'm reading. There's a damn good reason that Paul was the 2nd most successful solo act of the decade behind only Elton John. Being overplayed doesn't diminish how great the material is. Song for song BOTR is a melodic masterpiece and nothing Paul did post 80s can even compare.
Fact check: FALSE. Have a fabulous day!!!!
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joeysmith2 wrote:
70''s material overrated??? I can't believe what I'm reading. There's a damn good reason that Paul was the 2nd most successful solo act of the decade behind only Elton John. Being overplayed doesn't diminish how great the material is. Song for song BOTR is a melodic masterpiece and nothing Paul did post 80s can even compare.
Except Paul was getting lots of airplay largely because of the massive amount of good will left over from his Beatle days. The quality of the material may have been somewhat of a factor....but not the driving force. Had he come out of nowhere with his first two or three albums, he would have sunk. Being a Beatle carried him for years.
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Paul's music was something special in the 70's, he was charismatic, talented and good looking AF and even if a "complete unknown" at the start of the 70's he'd have been noticed and enjoyed success, methinks. Your assertion he was just "carried by having been a Beatle" seems ludicrous in light of his often being hailed as one of the greatest (sometimes called THE greatest) songwriters of all time. The Beatles disbanding threw him for a while, it was hard to come down from that high and yet he still came out with a lot of music in the aftermath. He never stopped being musical.
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SusyLuvsPaul wrote:
Paul's music was something special in the 70's, he was charismatic, talented and good looking AF and even if a "complete unknown" at the start of the 70's he'd have been noticed and enjoyed success, methinks. Your assertion he was just "carried by having been a Beatle" seems ludicrous in light of his often being hailed as one of the greatest (sometimes called THE greatest) songwriters of all time. The Beatles disbanding threw him for a while, it was hard to come down from that high and yet he still came out with a lot of music in the aftermath. He never stopped being musical.
Hear, hear! DITTO!