New album by Ringo, titled Postcards from Paradise
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moptops:
Bruce M.:
I don't think the best cover and title in the world will help Ringo's sales at this point. I'm not even sure a home-run album would, though there's always a chance.
Oh you mean Ringo. Thought you were referring to McCartney.
Zing!!
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From what I remember Hotel California did pretty well with the palm trees. I have to agree though, that it doesn't really matter what he puts on the cover. Unless he's gonna team up with Rihanna or Kanye, this album won't even slightly ding the charts. He's making these albums for him and his friends and us, his hardcore fans. Ringo Rama is by far my favorite album of his, but that's probably my generation talking. I was a senior in High School when it came out in March of that year, and I wore that album the entire year, plus. He's still making great albums, but if they're not gonna play new songs from solo Paul on the radio, they certainly aren't gonna play solo Ringo!
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Well, the Eagles also had kind of a mellow SoCal reputation, so the palm trees made sense for them, even though they had a few hard-edged hits, too. Sure, I know Ringo is never going to have a big hit again, but a label's gotta make money, even if it's 20,000 copies instead of 10,000. My point is, with the last few releases, it just looks like he doesn't care with this lame artwork. Put a little effort into it, and it will sell more copies. Branding does matter. Why put out music at all if it's not going to be presented in a way to entice people to buy it? He plays almost none of his newer songs live ever, so it's not even much of an advertisement for his shows. His name alone, and those who play with him, is enough to get people to the shows. But hey, maybe it's just truth in advertising: "We just threw these songs together on our days off. If you feel like buying it, go ahead, but we're not promising anything,"
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favoritething:
Well, the Eagles also had kind of a mellow SoCal reputation, so the palm trees made sense for them, even though they had a few hard-edged hits, too. Sure, I know Ringo is never going to have a big hit again, but a label's gotta make money, even if it's 20,000 copies instead of 10,000. My point is, with the last few releases, it just looks like he doesn't care with this lame artwork. Put a little effort into it, and it will sell more copies. Branding does matter. Why put out music at all if it's not going to be presented in a way to entice people to buy it? He plays almost none of his newer songs live ever, so it's not even much of an advertisement for his shows. His name alone, and those who play with him, is enough to get people to the shows. But hey, maybe it's just truth in advertising: "We just threw these songs together on our days off. If you feel like buying it, go ahead, but we're not promising anything,"
I think your argument could be applied to NEW. And to McCartney concerts. What the hell was that artwork for the cover of NEW??? How much effort did that take?
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RMartinez:
favoritething:
Well, the Eagles also had kind of a mellow SoCal reputation, so the palm trees made sense for them, even though they had a few hard-edged hits, too. Sure, I know Ringo is never going to have a big hit again, but a label's gotta make money, even if it's 20,000 copies instead of 10,000. My point is, with the last few releases, it just looks like he doesn't care with this lame artwork. Put a little effort into it, and it will sell more copies. Branding does matter. Why put out music at all if it's not going to be presented in a way to entice people to buy it? He plays almost none of his newer songs live ever, so it's not even much of an advertisement for his shows. His name alone, and those who play with him, is enough to get people to the shows. But hey, maybe it's just truth in advertising: "We just threw these songs together on our days off. If you feel like buying it, go ahead, but we're not promising anything,"
I think your argument could be applied to NEW. And to McCartney concerts. What the hell was that artwork for the cover of NEW??? How much effort did that take?
I like that artwork, but I have to agree, it didn't sell his brand very well. Seeing it in the store, you would have no clue who it was. His name was on the sticker, but you would have to get really close to read it. Also, the artwork conveyed the feeling of "Appreciate," perhaps, but little else. I'm not knocking Ringo's music in general, I should say. I liked "Ringo 2012," short as it was, and maybe the new one will be very good. It just doesn't look inviting, if that's the cover.
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favoritething:
RMartinez:
favoritething:
Well, the Eagles also had kind of a mellow SoCal reputation, so the palm trees made sense for them, even though they had a few hard-edged hits, too. Sure, I know Ringo is never going to have a big hit again, but a label's gotta make money, even if it's 20,000 copies instead of 10,000. My point is, with the last few releases, it just looks like he doesn't care with this lame artwork. Put a little effort into it, and it will sell more copies. Branding does matter. Why put out music at all if it's not going to be presented in a way to entice people to buy it? He plays almost none of his newer songs live ever, so it's not even much of an advertisement for his shows. His name alone, and those who play with him, is enough to get people to the shows. But hey, maybe it's just truth in advertising: "We just threw these songs together on our days off. If you feel like buying it, go ahead, but we're not promising anything,"
I think your argument could be applied to NEW. And to McCartney concerts. What the hell was that artwork for the cover of NEW??? How much effort did that take?
I like that artwork, but I have to agree, it didn't sell his brand very well. Seeing it in the store, you would have no clue who it was. His name was on the sticker, but you would have to get really close to read it. Also, the artwork conveyed the feeling of "Appreciate," perhaps, but little else. I'm not knocking Ringo's music in general, I should say. I liked "Ringo 2012," short as it was, and maybe the new one will be very good. It just doesn't look inviting, if that's the cover.
I get what you are saying. In Ringo's defense, at least he is on the cover. NEW should have had Paul on the cover. Everyone knows him.
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I will pre-order Ringo's new CD today!
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I preordered Ringo's CD. We will be seeing him on Feb. 13th so I hope he plays something from the new CD, probably the song he did with his whole band.
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I like the cover , trees and all.
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Maybe he is going for a laid back approach.
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Perhaps he has gone troppo?
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edcrawf:
Perhaps he has gone troppo?
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The album cover art has been confirmed: http://www.ringostarr.com/
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Ringo has positioned himself in a great set-up for recording. He has had a studio at his place since RingoRama. By the looks of the video it's not much bigger than the jam/recording room that I have (at least in the recording hub area of Ringo's studio). He does it obvioulsy for the love of it and never concerned of the record sale numbers. Studio is paid for and at most he has to spend some money to get the tracks mastered is ~10-20k.
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Agreed about the sales aspect. Plus I think Ringo is doing fine cash wise and this is clearly for the love of music.
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edcrawf:
Agreed about the sales aspect. Plus I think Ringo is doing fine cash wise and this is clearly for the love of music.
He's aware of how his albums sell, I think. At his c0ncerts, whenever he mentions his most recent album at that time, there are always a few people who do cheer. He usually laughs and says "I see one or two of you bought it."
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Is it a stamp?
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thenightfish:
edcrawf:
Agreed about the sales aspect. Plus I think Ringo is doing fine cash wise and this is clearly for the love of music.
He's aware of how his albums sell, I think. At his c0ncerts, whenever he mentions his most recent album at that time, there are always a few people who do cheer. He usually laughs and says "I see one or two of you bought it."
Lol! That's Ringo alright!
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MetalGod:
Ringo has positioned himself in a great set-up for recording. He has had a studio at his place since RingoRama. By the looks of the video it's not much bigger than the jam/recording room that I have (at least in the recording hub area of Ringo's studio). He does it obvioulsy for the love of it and never concerned of the record sale numbers. Studio is paid for and at most he has to spend some money to get the tracks mastered is ~10-20k.
Ringo has had studios at (most) his homes since the Tittenhurst days.
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moptops:
MetalGod:
Ringo has positioned himself in a great set-up for recording. He has had a studio at his place since RingoRama. By the looks of the video it's not much bigger than the jam/recording room that I have (at least in the recording hub area of Ringo's studio). He does it obvioulsy for the love of it and never concerned of the record sale numbers. Studio is paid for and at most he has to spend some money to get the tracks mastered is ~10-20k.
Ringo has had studios at (most) his homes since the Tittenhurst days.
My point was until recently, the last 16 years or so, he's done all his records 'in-house' so to say without actually paying to go into Professional studio establishments. Whereas McCartney will front the money to go to Abbey Road,Capitol Records studio, etc. with higher profile producers to make an album. Ringo isn't losing any money by not successfully selling his albums.
