THE "BLACK ALBUM': INSIDE ETHAN HAWKE'S BEATLES CDs
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http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/music/ethan-hawke-black-album-post-divorce-metaphor-article-1.1932251 Anyone familiar with this article...and the very interesting post-Beatles mixtape the actor, Ethan Hawke, created in real life for his daughter when Hawke and his wife were divorcing and then that his character did for his son in the "Boyhood" movie? Some great songs in an interesting sequence that makes for a very nice three-disc CD. Thoughts????
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Is it rude to point out that so many of the stories that Ethan Hawke talks about just aren't true? John and Paul didn't write "Two of Us" together. There was no 3-1 vote of Hey Jude over Revolution. Paul and George nixed the slow version as a single. That's why they recorded the fast one. Nice sentiment, but...
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Johnny A:
Is it rude to point out that so many of the stories that Ethan Hawke talks about just aren't true? John and Paul didn't write "Two of Us" together. There was no 3-1 vote of Hey Jude over Revolution. Paul and George nixed the slow version as a single. That's why they recorded the fast one. Nice sentiment, but...
No, not at all. I was most interested in his song selection on each of the three discs...to set a mood of some kind....and wondering what others thought of that. I guess he told his daughter whatever he wanted to tell her...in his own way..for whatever reasons.
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Yes, Ethan's stories are positively bizarre, like the one where John and Paul decide to start a "f***ing rock n roll band" right outside Julia's memorial service! Is that from a movie, like "Nowhere Boy" or something? I'm highly skeptical of the story where John and Paul storm into the Rolling Stones album release party with "Hey Jude," too. Can't argue too much with his song selections, but he doesn't go very deep into the solo catalogues after the first couple of years. His sequence would have a nice flow, I'll give him that!
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favoritething:
Yes, Ethan's stories are positively bizarre, like the one where John and Paul decide to start a "f***ing rock n roll band" right outside Julia's memorial service! Is that from a movie, like "Nowhere Boy" or something? I'm highly skeptical of the story where John and Paul storm into the Rolling Stones album release party with "Hey Jude," too. Can't argue too much with his song selections, but he doesn't go very deep into the solo catalogues after the first couple of years. His sequence would have a nice flow, I'll give him that!
Yeah, most of his info seemed...quite fanciful and/or made up. But I did like his sentiment that the music doesn't have a time stamp and easily transfers from generation to generation without losing relevance and importance. (Even if untrue, I LOVE the idea that John and Paul crashed a Rolling Stones' "Beggars Banquet" listening party and everyone there preferred listening to "Hey Jude/Revolution" instead. I so wish that were true!!! I may start using that little "event" myself...on unsuspecting novices of the Beatles/Stones.)
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Beatles4Ever&Ever:
favoritething:
Yes, Ethan's stories are positively bizarre, like the one where John and Paul decide to start a "f***ing rock n roll band" right outside Julia's memorial service! Is that from a movie, like "Nowhere Boy" or something? I'm highly skeptical of the story where John and Paul storm into the Rolling Stones album release party with "Hey Jude," too. Can't argue too much with his song selections, but he doesn't go very deep into the solo catalogues after the first couple of years. His sequence would have a nice flow, I'll give him that!
Yeah, most of his info seemed...quite fanciful and/or made up. But I did like his sentiment that the music doesn't have a time stamp and easily transfers from generation to generation without losing relevance and importance. (Even if untrue, I LOVE the idea that John and Paul crashed a Rolling Stones' "Beggars Banquet" listening party and everyone there preferred listening to "Hey Jude/Revolution" instead. I so wish that were true!!! I may start using that little "event" myself...on unsuspecting novices of the Beatles/Stones.)
I agree about his overall sentiment and goal in passing on this music in a meaningful way. It's funny how the Beatles' music has remained timeless despite all the other musical trends that have come along. It seems that the power of their music keeps pulling new artists in, inspiring them to reinterpret those elements that made the Beatles great. Don't you dare spread that story!
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Huh?? 1). Lennon had nothing to do with writing Two of Us, although it could be argued that Lennon & Paul's relationship may have inspired some of the lyrics. 2). Beggars Banquet release party was in Dec. 1968, several months after the release of the Hey Jude single. most of the rest is fictional as well...
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A lot of good in Ethan's sentiment here. I've liked him since Reality Bites. And some good song choices.
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The Hey Jude story can be found in some books, too. It is mentioned someplace in the The Beatles' London book by Mark Lewisohn, but I do not have this at hand, right now. Here http://www.timeisonourside.com/chron1968.html it is stated that it was during Mick Jagger's birthday party, 26 July 1968.
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favoritething:
Beatles4Ever&Ever:
favoritething:
Yes, Ethan's stories are positively bizarre, like the one where John and Paul decide to start a "f***ing rock n roll band" right outside Julia's memorial service! Is that from a movie, like "Nowhere Boy" or something? I'm highly skeptical of the story where John and Paul storm into the Rolling Stones album release party with "Hey Jude," too. Can't argue too much with his song selections, but he doesn't go very deep into the solo catalogues after the first couple of years. His sequence would have a nice flow, I'll give him that!
Yeah, most of his info seemed...quite fanciful and/or made up. But I did like his sentiment that the music doesn't have a time stamp and easily transfers from generation to generation without losing relevance and importance. (Even if untrue, I LOVE the idea that John and Paul crashed a Rolling Stones' "Beggars Banquet" listening party and everyone there preferred listening to "Hey Jude/Revolution" instead. I so wish that were true!!! I may start using that little "event" myself...on unsuspecting novices of the Beatles/Stones.)
I agree about his overall sentiment and goal in passing on this music in a meaningful way. It's funny how the Beatles' music has remained timeless despite all the other musical trends that have come along. It seems that the power of their music keeps pulling new artists in, inspiring them to reinterpret those elements that made the Beatles great. Don't you dare spread that story!
Can't promise. As we all know, once something gets repeated enough by as many people as possible, it becomes "fact". 
Regarding comments/events between the Beatles and Stones, this reminds me that earlier this year...the 50th Anniversary of the Beatles Invasion....a special edition of The Saturday Evening Post mentioned some interesting tidbits: After the premiere of "A Hard Day's Night" the Beatles had a party at one of the hotels. Keith Richards and Brian Jones attended. At one point, John told the two: "I love you. I loved you the first time I heard you. But there's something wrong with you, isn't there? There's one of you in the group that isn't as good as the others. Find out who he is and get rid of 'im." John told them he liked their hair, "But Mick Jagger'," he said, "you know as well as I do that his hair doesn't make it." LOL Hmmm. And yet after all that, Mick Jagger still wasn't fired!!! Brian Jones told John, "It's harder for us (going to America) than it was for you because we have to contend with you and America. You only had to contend with America." The article had other tidbits, and one on Cher!!!! "Cher's First Song Was A Beatles Tribute!!" "Singer Bonnie Jo Mason (((???)) (later Cher) recorded the novelty song "Ringo, I Love You' as her first single--the song flopped. Well, yeah. I mean had she done..."Do You Believe In Life After Love.....After Love....After Love", who knows? Maybe her career would have taken off and she would never have needed Sonny at all!!!! 
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Foxx54:
The Hey Jude story can be found in some books, too. It is mentioned someplace in the The Beatles' London book by Mark Lewisohn, but I do not have this at hand, right now. Here http://www.timeisonourside.com/chron1968.html it is stated that it was during Mick Jagger's birthday party, 26 July 1968.
Mick apparently loved 'Hey Jude' & said it had a directly influence on the song structure of 'You Cant Always Get What You Want'.
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JoeySmith:
Foxx54:
The Hey Jude story can be found in some books, too. It is mentioned someplace in the The Beatles' London book by Mark Lewisohn, but I do not have this at hand, right now. Here http://www.timeisonourside.com/chron1968.html it is stated that it was during Mick Jagger's birthday party, 26 July 1968.
Mick apparently loved 'Hey Jude' & said it had a directly influence on the song structure of 'You Cant Always Get What You Want'.
Yes, I do see a connection in the structure of the songs...now that you mention it. I'm surprised, however, that Mick would admit to it. He spent the 60's jealous as hell over them. After John died, he felt it was "safe" to start trashing them a bit...and did so. Well, actually, he started doing it a bit even before John died...but after the Beatles broke up. I recall John being very angry about it and saying something like...."I can say what ever I want about the Beatles..good or bad...but don't let Mick Jagger be saying anything negative about them. He was jealous of the Beatles all during the 60's and copied everything the Beatles did....six months later." I think it was in an interview in Rolling Stone...maybe???
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Yes, that's from the Rolling Stone interview by Jann Wenner. It can be found here http://www.jannswenner.com/archives/john_lennon_part1.aspx at roughly 2/3rds
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Foxx54:
Yes, that's from the Rolling Stone interview by Jann Wenner. It can be found here http://www.jannswenner.com/archives/john_lennon_part1.aspx at roughly 2/3rds
Yes, that's the one. Thanks. That was one lengthy article as I recall. John spilled his guts on.....everything. I think I still have that issue somewhere.....I believe my impression was...shock. It all just totally made the Beatles being over all too real. Who knew they were building up to that....all that anger being held in for so long. Sort of thought the magic would go one forever. Clearly it would not!!! And clearly...now...I can only imagine the pressure they were under. The world was just waiting for them to "speak". We all took whatever it was as gospel. They were these all-knowing Gods residing on Mt. Olympus. We were waiting for more truths and directions from them. There would be none.
