She who inspired 'The Long And Winding Road'.
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Relating to the sad death of Sir George Martin, the main topic of BBC Radio Essex's breakfast show this morning was about the Beatles. One of the callers who rang host James Whale to share their memories was the cousin of Maggie McGivern, the woman who had dated Paul for a few months (and maybe for a lot longer than that) in the summer & autumn of 1968. Apparently Paul wrote 'The Long And Winding Road' for Maggie after the couple split up.
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I'm sure a relative of someone who used to go out with Paul *would* say that, but it doesn't mean it's true.. I mean if he split up with her and then wrote the song later - how would Maggie know it was def about her?! Linda is a better bet.
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Paul met Maggie in 1966 at the flat of Marianne Faithful/John Dunbar where she was the nanny for their kid. They soon after began an affair that was on and off until Sept. 1968. Then Linda came to visit and that ended that. I doubt he wrote TLAWR for her. Read this for details: http://sentstarr.tripod.com/beatgirls/mcgiv.html
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Personally I've always thought Martha My Dear was written for Maggie but Paul copped out and changed Maggie to Martha, and said it was about his dog.
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I alwayz thought it could be about his Mom. *On the day my Dad was buried, there is a winding road that leads to the Cemetary. As we were driving on that road, that day, this song came to my head.
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Kestrel:
Personally I've always thought Martha My Dear was written for Maggie but Paul copped out and changed Maggie to Martha, and said it was about his dog.
Good theory! Found this on Wikipedia: The title "Martha My Dear" was inspired by McCartney's Old English Sheepdog, named Martha. McCartney has said that the song itself is probably about his longtime love interest Jane Asher. Asher broke off their engagement in mid-1968. McCartney chides her with the lyrics in the song "...when you find yourself in the thick of it, help yourself to a bit of what is all around you..." Asher inspired many of McCartney's songs, including "Here, There and Everywhere", "I'm Looking Through You", "For No One" and "We Can Work It Out". (A later "Martha" lyric explains, "You have always been my inspiration..." McCartney has also said, cryptically, that the song is about his "muse"?the voice in his head that tells him what words and music to write.)
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^ Thanks for that Nancy,its quite interesting how Paul can consciously or subconsciously disguise the true topic of a song.
Returning to what Maggie's cousin was saying on the radio, the main reason why Maggie and Paul split up was because Paul wanted to get married,settle down and have a family where as Maggie didn't want that. -
Kestrel:
^ Thanks for that Nancy,its quite interesting how Paul can consciously or subconsciously disguise the true topic of a song.
Returning to what Maggie's cousin was saying on the radio, the main reason why Maggie and Paul split up was because Paul wanted to get married,settle down and have a family where as Maggie didn't want that.Yes, did you click on the above link I posted? Maggie talks about how he asked her if she wanted to get married someday and she blows it by not saying "Yes, to you whenever you are ready!" (she just said something like, "Sure, someday in the future probably.") This was in early Sept. 1968 when they went on a short vacation to "somewhere warm." Then mid-Sept. Linda arrives in London and that's all she wrote!
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Nancy R:
Kestrel:
^ Thanks for that Nancy,its quite interesting how Paul can consciously or subconsciously disguise the true topic of a song.
Returning to what Maggie's cousin was saying on the radio, the main reason why Maggie and Paul split up was because Paul wanted to get married,settle down and have a family where as Maggie didn't want that.Yes, did you click on the above link I posted?
Yes I did but had forgotten about it by the next day and so was just remembering what the cousin had said on the radio.
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Nancy R:
Kestrel:
^ Thanks for that Nancy,its quite interesting how Paul can consciously or subconsciously disguise the true topic of a song.
Returning to what Maggie's cousin was saying on the radio, the main reason why Maggie and Paul split up was because Paul wanted to get married,settle down and have a family where as Maggie didn't want that.Yes, did you click on the above link I posted? Maggie talks about how he asked her if she wanted to get married someday and she blows it by not saying "Yes, to you whenever you are ready!" (she just said something like, "Sure, someday in the future probably.") This was in early Sept. 1968 when they went on a short vacation to "somewhere warm." Then mid-Sept. Linda arrives in London and that's all she wrote!
Well Pauk must not have been that in love with Maggie because men that love women and want to really marry them go after what they want and don't beat around the bush. I am sure Maggie got over it.
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hey_kittay:
Nancy R:
Kestrel:
^ Thanks for that Nancy,its quite interesting how Paul can consciously or subconsciously disguise the true topic of a song.
Returning to what Maggie's cousin was saying on the radio, the main reason why Maggie and Paul split up was because Paul wanted to get married,settle down and have a family where as Maggie didn't want that.Yes, did you click on the above link I posted? Maggie talks about how he asked her if she wanted to get married someday and she blows it by not saying "Yes, to you whenever you are ready!" (she just said something like, "Sure, someday in the future probably.") This was in early Sept. 1968 when they went on a short vacation to "somewhere warm." Then mid-Sept. Linda arrives in London and that's all she wrote!
Well Pauk must not have been that in love with Maggie because men that love women and want to really marry them go after what they want and don't beat around the bush. I am sure Maggie got over it.
If you read her story about it in that link I posted, you'll see that she didn't. And I'm not surprised.
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^^ thanks for letting me know that Nancy, I didn't read it. Sorry. I guess I am looking at things from who I am today. If a man doesn't put real effort into a relationship I am not going to run after them. I am not going to beg or trick them into staying with me. No matter who they are. I have self esteem now and I went through a very similar situation as Maggie. Now I think, "well I guess he is happier being with another woman and good luck." I just don't let it bother me anymore. It is his loss. All from being afraid of taking the RAM by the horns so to speak. I think of Ho Oponopono. "Thank you for the experience of learning." Love to Maggie wherever she may be today.
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Nancy R:
Paul met Maggie in 1966 at the flat of Marianne Faithful/John Dunbar where she was the nanny for their kid. They soon after began an affair that was on and off until Sept. 1968. Then Linda came to visit and that ended that. I doubt he wrote TLAWR for her. Read this for details: http://sentstarr.tripod.com/beatgirls/mcgiv.html
Paul's social life in the 60s would never have survived the Twitter age!
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JoeySmith:
Nancy R:
Paul met Maggie in 1966 at the flat of Marianne Faithful/John Dunbar where she was the nanny for their kid. They soon after began an affair that was on and off until Sept. 1968. Then Linda came to visit and that ended that. I doubt he wrote TLAWR for her. Read this for details: http://sentstarr.tripod.com/beatgirls/mcgiv.html
Paul's social life in the 60s would never have survived the Twitter age!
That's for sure! It's amazing the things that never got out back then. The press was different and would often "look the other way" on certain things.
