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    Solo Paul rocked harder than Solo John

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      JoeySmith last edited by

      There is still this perception (although its shifting) that solo John rocked harder than solo Paul. After a re-listening of their solo work, I just dont think thats true. John had some raw rockers, especially on his 1st two solo albums, but for the most part, he was writing more pop, insipid love songs than solo Paul. Mind Game, Walls, & Double Fantasy were very pop, lightweight, imo. Even John's Instant Karma, sounds very pop-ish today.

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      • jl4761
        jl4761 last edited by

        They both rocked hard during their time!!! John with Cold Turkey and Paul with Juniors Farm, great songs!!! I feel confident that many of my fellow Beatles fanatics can name other solo John and Paul Rockers!

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        • SusyLuvsPaul
          SusyLuvsPaul last edited by

          Yes they each have many all-out screaming raving rockers. Ever since John departed this world, each of his songs seems very special just knowing there won't be any more. Even folksy lighter fare like "Oh, Yoko" which sounds so joyful and happy. John's deeper louder more harrowing numbers like "Cold Turkey" and many on his first solo album make a greater impression, but his "Double Fantasy" efforts have such a pleasing Retro sound-- it's very interesting to compare and contrast the two styles he used on these.

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            admin last edited by

            John also had I'm losing you. Paul did rock hard at times, what he has had a hard time overcoming are songs like Say, Say, Say and With A Little Luck. John did not have any songs like those. Wings Over America tour was killer, but his big hits at the time were Listen To What The Man Said, Silly Love Songs, and Let 'Em In. Not very rock.

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              admin last edited by

              Paul will never live down the horrid The Girl Is Mine, Say Say Say, Pipes Of Peace, Ode To a Koala Bear, Broadstreet, Spies Like Us, Once Upon a Long Ago sequence. And while intended as a kids song, The Frog Song was misunderstood and didn't help either. Most of the other stuff he was releasing was slick sounding garbage. While trying to be hip and cool, he totally lost his way. I believe that's partly why he returned to touring in 89: as a way to repair his then tarnished reputation. In spite if everything else, he's a great live act. That 80's stretch easily the nadir of his long career.

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              • HaileyMcComet
                HaileyMcComet last edited by

                John rocked harder on Monday, Wednesday and Friday. Paul rocked harder on Tuesday and Thursday and every other Saturday. They alternated Sundays.

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                • jl4761
                  jl4761 last edited by

                  HaileyMcComet:

                  John rocked harder on Monday, Wednesday and Friday. Paul rocked harder on Tuesday and Thursday and every other Saturday. They alternated Sundays.

                  Isn't there a song called "Never On A Sunday?"

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                  • HaileyMcComet
                    HaileyMcComet last edited by

                    jl4761:

                    Isn't there a song called "Never On A Sunday?"

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                    • Nancy R
                      Nancy R last edited by

                      HaileyMcComet:

                      John rocked harder on Monday, Wednesday and Friday. Paul rocked harder on Tuesday and Thursday and every other Saturday. They alternated Sundays.

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                      • jl4761
                        jl4761 last edited by

                        HaileyMcComet:

                        jl4761:

                        Isn't there a song called "Never On A Sunday?"

                        That's it!!!!

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                        • beatlesfanrandy
                          beatlesfanrandy last edited by

                          JoeySmith:

                          There is still this perception (although its shifting) that solo John rocked harder than solo Paul. After a re-listening of their solo work, I just dont think thats true. John had some raw rockers, especially on his 1st two solo albums, but for the most part, he was writing more pop, insipid love songs than solo Paul. Mind Game, Walls, & Double Fantasy were very pop, lightweight, imo. Even John's Instant Karma, sounds very pop-ish today.

                          The perception even goes back to the early days of The Beatles, where you had Paul's ballad Yesterday followed by John's blistering cover of Dizzie Miss Lizzie on the Help! album. Mind Games had Meat City, W&B the instrumental Beef Jerky, which both rocked pretty good. He had a hard rock version of I'm Losing You he did with the guys from Cheap Trick, but dropped it for a more "bluesy"version. He wanted Yoko's songs on DF to have the harder edge, and his went for the AC feel deliberately. I love his "insipid" love songs btw, which I think are better than Paul's in this period for the most part.

                          Wings Over America - Cow Palace SF - June 1976. New World Tour - Anaheim Stadium - 4/17/93. Driving USA - Oakland Arena - 4/1/2002. US Tour - HP Pavilion - San Jose - 11/08/05. An Evening with Paul McCartney - The Joint at Hard Rock - Las Vegas - 4/19/09. Up & Coming Tour - Hollywood Bowl - 3/31/10. Walk of Fame Star Presentation - Hollywood - Feb. 2012. CBS-TV taping - The Night That Changed America (with Ringo!)  - L.A. Convention Center - Jan. 2014. Out There Tour -Dodger Stadium - Los Angeles - Aug. '14 and Petco Park - San Diego - Sept. '14. Petco Park - San Diego - June 2019.  Got Back Tour - SoFi Stadium - Los Angeles - May 2022

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                          • Nancy R
                            Nancy R last edited by

                            By "insipid" are you referring to John's "Woman?"

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                            GA Dome, Atlanta, GA May 1, 1993

                            Philips Arena, Atlanta, GA May 12, 2002

                            FedEx Forum, Memphis, TN May 26, 2013

                            Philips Arena, Atlanta, GA Oct. 15, 2014

                            Infinite Energy Center, Duluth, GA July 13, 2017

                            Bon Secours Arena, Greenville, SC May 30, 2019

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                            • jl4761
                              jl4761 last edited by

                              Nancy R:

                              By "insipid" are you referring to John's "Woman?"

                              Maybe it was Paul's "Woman," the one he wrote for PETER & GORDON!!

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                              • Nancy R
                                Nancy R last edited by

                                jl4761:

                                Nancy R:

                                By "insipid" are you referring to John's "Woman?"

                                Maybe it was Paul's "Woman," the one he wrote for PETER & GORDON!!

                                HaHa! You know he was talking about John.

                                Omni, Atlanta, GA May 18, 1976, Feb. 17, 1990

                                GA Dome, Atlanta, GA May 1, 1993

                                Philips Arena, Atlanta, GA May 12, 2002

                                FedEx Forum, Memphis, TN May 26, 2013

                                Philips Arena, Atlanta, GA Oct. 15, 2014

                                Infinite Energy Center, Duluth, GA July 13, 2017

                                Bon Secours Arena, Greenville, SC May 30, 2019

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                                • jl4761
                                  jl4761 last edited by

                                  Nancy R:

                                  jl4761:

                                  Nancy R:

                                  By "insipid" are you referring to John's "Woman?"

                                  Maybe it was Paul's "Woman," the one he wrote for PETER & GORDON!!

                                  HaHa! You know he was talking about John.

                                  Yes, I know!!! Ha Ha!

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                                    admin last edited by

                                    Woman = Nuit

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                                    • Nancy R
                                      Nancy R last edited by

                                      hey_kittay:

                                      Woman = Nuit

                                      I don't know what that means.

                                      Omni, Atlanta, GA May 18, 1976, Feb. 17, 1990

                                      GA Dome, Atlanta, GA May 1, 1993

                                      Philips Arena, Atlanta, GA May 12, 2002

                                      FedEx Forum, Memphis, TN May 26, 2013

                                      Philips Arena, Atlanta, GA Oct. 15, 2014

                                      Infinite Energy Center, Duluth, GA July 13, 2017

                                      Bon Secours Arena, Greenville, SC May 30, 2019

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                                      • SusyLuvsPaul
                                        SusyLuvsPaul last edited by

                                        I showcase Paul songs at intervals on my facebook page and realized I place his slower, milder and highly melodious numbers there, for the most part. Knocked out by those melodies I put John's "I'm Losing You" on there not long ago and it provided quite a contrast. Although not one of John's hardest. I need to put an all out Paul screamer on there. I placed "Coming Up" and "Tomorrow" which came across a bit like novelty songs but novelty of the best kind. Compared to the rest. "Mull of Kintyre" and "Once Upon a Long Ago" and "Arrow Through It" were my most popular posts of Paul songs, so far, garnered the most response. And "Coming Up." Oh and "So Bad" Maybe it's because of going through a lot these past few years that I favored his smooth sound, helped me nerves I don't regard his slower stuff as easy going middle of the road and bland, but as smooth, sweet, soulful, pretty. Maybe I'm more into his pop than into his rock. And don't feel I should be ops: embarrassed because of that.

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                                        • HaileyMcComet
                                          HaileyMcComet last edited by

                                          Nancy R:

                                          hey_kittay:

                                          Woman = Nuit

                                          I don't know what that means.

                                          Maybe the sky goddess, ie, the other half of the sky.

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                                          • Nancy R
                                            Nancy R last edited by

                                            HaileyMcComet:

                                            Nancy R:

                                            hey_kittay:

                                            Woman = Nuit

                                            I don't know what that means.

                                            Maybe the sky goddess, ie, the other half of the sky.

                                            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuit It also has something to do with Aleister Crowley who is one of the people on the cover of Sgt.Pepper!

                                            Omni, Atlanta, GA May 18, 1976, Feb. 17, 1990

                                            GA Dome, Atlanta, GA May 1, 1993

                                            Philips Arena, Atlanta, GA May 12, 2002

                                            FedEx Forum, Memphis, TN May 26, 2013

                                            Philips Arena, Atlanta, GA Oct. 15, 2014

                                            Infinite Energy Center, Duluth, GA July 13, 2017

                                            Bon Secours Arena, Greenville, SC May 30, 2019

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