Cloud Nine
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I've been listening to Cloud Nine a lot lately, and is it me or is this an homage to all of his previous albums? It's a great album on its own, of course, but to me it sounds like all of the songs could have fit beautifully on other albums. Cloud Nine - George Harrison That's What It Takes - Gone Troppo Fish On the Sand - Brainwashed Just For Today - Living in the Material World This Is Love - Thirty Three & 1/3 When We Was Fab - Somewhere in England Devil's Radio - Dark Horse or Somewhere in England Someplace Else - All Things Must Pass Wreck Of the Hesperus - Thirty Three & 1/3 Breath Away From Heaven - Extra Texture or Living in the Material World Got My Mind Set On You - Dark Horse I know Brainwashed came later, but Fish On the Sand would fit.
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I am wondering if some of the songs on "Brainwashed" goes back to "Cloud Nine" with a recording period for the entire album between 1988-2002.
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Absolutely, at least "Run So Far" goes back to the '80s, though slightly after "Cloud Nine." And I do agree with HM that "Cloud Nine" is kind of like a compendium of all of George's styles over the years. I think they were casting as wide a net as possible to get the biggest audience for the album, and it clearly worked.
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favoritething:
Absolutely, at least "Run So Far" goes back to the '80s, though slightly after "Cloud Nine." And I do agree with HM that "Cloud Nine" is kind of like a compendium of all of George's styles over the years. I think they were casting as wide a net as possible to get the biggest audience for the album, and it clearly worked.
Eric Clapton Album: Journeyman Released: 1989 Run So Far written by George Harrison
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I don't think it's so much a retrospective of his previous albums as a reflection of the fact that George's style doesn't really change much from album to album. The lushness of the production varies a bit as does the mood, but -- except for the Spector-produced albums -- you could drop any George song into any George album and it wouldn't seem out of place. He's really the opposite of Paul in that regard.
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That's a bittersweet era for me. Loved the album, was very happy for his success -- not to mention the follow-up success as a Traveling Wilbury. But it's also the period when I was becoming a major McCartney fan, and while I was hearing George Harrison on the radio more than ever, McCartney's once-ubiquitous presence in radio virtually disappeared.
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I agree that George's style might have stayed within a certain musical continuum, but have to disagree that they're quite as interchangeable as suggested. Especially, for example, Some Place Else appearing on ATMP. George's inspiration for that song, I believe, was simply a line out of that awful movie he wrote it for, Shanghai Surprise. It borders on being a throwaway song, and nothing about ATMP was throwaway. Well, some might say the Apple Jams were, but certainly not the songs. The same could be said for Breath Away from Heaven being part of LITMW, which was George's "the morning after" album following the emotional hangover of dealing with the breakup in ATMP.
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Obviously the Cloud Nine songs were not written for or during the time period for the other albums. I just think the Cloud Nine songs would all feel at home on some albums. I don't think you could just put any of his songs on any album. That Is All would sound as out of place on George Harrison as Blood From a Clone would on Brainwashed. I think Someplace Else is an exceptionally beautiful song. At least the Cloud Nine version. I for one would be more than happy to have it on All Things Must Pass. But I'm glad it's on Cloud Nine instead. The album is all the better for it.
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HaileyMcComet:
Obviously the Cloud Nine songs were not written for or during the time period for the other albums. I just think the Cloud Nine songs would all feel at home on some albums. I don't think you could just put any of his songs on any album. That Is All would sound as out of place on George Harrison as Blood From a Clone would on Brainwashed. I think Someplace Else is an exceptionally beautiful song. At least the Cloud Nine version. I for one would be more than happy to have it on All Things Must Pass. But I'm glad it's on Cloud Nine instead. The album is all the better for it.
I think it's a beautiful song, too, not a throwaway at all. Not sure I can hear it fitting into "All Things Must Pass," though. I do agree that his albums are not interchangeable, not to me. AMTP has some country-rock and acid-rock elements, Dark Horse is pretty jazzy, Extra Texture is soulful, George Harrison is awash in sumptuous acoustic guitar, etc.
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The production on his late 70's and early eighties albums was very lightweight, in my opinion. For example gone troppo album has some horrible production on it including the song wake up my love. too many synthesizers which didn't fit George's musical style.
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JoeySmith:
The production on his late 70's and early eighties albums was very lightweight, in my opinion. For example gone troppo album has some horrible production on it including the song wake up my love. too many synthesizers which didn't fit George's musical style.
I don't mind the synthesizers on that song, personally, although it does unfortunately make it sound very similar to Laura Branigan's "Gloria," which was a hit about that same time. I have found the production style on that album a little cheesy, in general, and it's true, he always seemed fascinated with whatever the latest keyboard sounds were, even as far back as Electronic Sound, not to mention "Here Comes The Sun"! Brainwashed also lays on the keyboards a bit thick in places, and the musician credits for the songs are kind of coy about that fact, hiding an "additional keyboards" credit somewhere else in the liner notes. I suppose that must have been Jeff Lynne's decision to "sweeten" them up a bit, which he even alludes to in the "making of" video ("Sorry, George!").
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HaileyMcComet:
I've been listening to Cloud Nine a lot lately, and is it me or is this an homage to all of his previous albums? It's a great album on its own, of course, but to me it sounds like all of the songs could have fit beautifully on other albums. Cloud Nine - George Harrison That's What It Takes - Gone Troppo Fish On the Sand - Brainwashed Just For Today - Living in the Material World This Is Love - Thirty Three & 1/3 When We Was Fab - Somewhere in England Devil's Radio - Dark Horse or Somewhere in England Someplace Else - All Things Must Pass Wreck Of the Hesperus - Thirty Three & 1/3 Breath Away From Heaven - Extra Texture or Living in the Material World Got My Mind Set On You - Dark Horse I know Brainwashed came later, but Fish On the Sand would fit.
Well, I'm pleased he didn't release Devil's Radio...one of my favorite George songs...on Dark Horse....or he would have sung it with that hoarse raspy voice! That would not have been a good thing!
I also love "Fish On The Sand", which for me is very Beatleish!! (In an article in the most recent Beatlfan Magazine. one of the writers was re-evaluating Paul's "Press" and commented that it was a much better and stronger album than "Cloud Nine"....and had better production. He lamented the album cover (good call on his part) as being one reason it didn't go over well with the public...and the awful video he used for the single "Press To Play." I could have added that he left off songs he recorded during the sessions that would have fit much better on the album than some he included...they would later appear as bonus cuts. Paul has this habit of leaving great songs off albums and then they appear later as bonus cuts. The list is endless. I had to write to the magazine and say "No way"!!!!!! ...regarding "Press" being better than "Cloud Nine". Just isn't true!!! For me!!! -
I've always liked Gone Troppo. It may not be the best album ever made, but it's got some good stuff with more than a few excellent musicians.
Beatles4Ever&Ever:
Well, I'm pleased he didn't release Devil's Radio...one of my favorite George songs...on Dark Horse....or he would have sung it with that hoarse raspy voice! That would not have been a good thing!
He probably would have still played it on the Japan album, so at least we would have had that version.
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Beatles4Ever&Ever:
Paul has this habit of leaving great songs off albums and then they appear later as bonus cuts. The list is endless. I had to write to the magazine and say "No way"!!!!!! ...regarding "Press" being better than "Cloud Nine". Just isn't true!!! For me!!!
At least Paul puts them back as bonus cuts! We die-hard George fans are STILL waiting for the three great songs he pulled from Somewhere in England to re-appear. "Throwaway" may be a bit unkind for Someplace Else - George's singing is very expressive. I just think it is a bit of a lightweight tune. I'm glad so many here like it!
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Hendrix Ibsen:
I am wondering if some of the songs on "Brainwashed" goes back to "Cloud Nine" with a recording period for the entire album between 1988-2002.
"P2 Vatican Blues" was an outtake from the Cloud Nine sessions. Actually, the song "Rocking Chair In Hawaii" goes back even further - it was written during the All Things Must Pass era, and was originally entitled "Down To The River".
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This is the entire album.
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favoritething:
Absolutely, at least "Run So Far" goes back to the '80s, though slightly after "Cloud Nine." And I do agree with HM that "Cloud Nine" is kind of like a compendium of all of George's styles over the years. I think they were casting as wide a net as possible to get the biggest audience for the album, and it clearly worked.
I sort of believe, too, that had George released "Devil's Radio" (great rocker) as the followup single to "Got My Mind Set On You" instead of "When We Was Fab", both the album and followup single would have done even better. That would have added momentum...and then had followed those two with the gorgeous "This Is Love"before "When We Was Fab," it and the album would have fared even better. But who knows????
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I think Cloud 9 and Brainwashed are kind of Bookends of George's Solo work ..like them BOTH Alot!
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Beatles4Ever&Ever:
I sort of believe, too, that had George released "Devil's Radio" (great rocker) as the followup single to "Got My Mind Set On You" instead of "When We Was Fab", both the album and followup single would have done even better. That would have added momentum...and then had followed those two with the gorgeous "This Is Love"before "When We Was Fab," it and the album would have fared even better. But who knows????
When We Was Fab is an obvious single. Waiting to release it later could have backfired.
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wingsdgm:
I think Cloud 9 and Brainwashed are kind of Bookends of George's Solo work ..like them BOTH Alot!
I don't really understand this. What's the other end of the bookend? Or are you saying Cloud 9 on one end and Brainwashed on the other? That can't be right because they're consecutive albums. I'm missing something here.
