How much is Paul's booking fee?
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McCartney's band has not "opened" for him in ten years, it ain't gonna happen now. It's a cute dream, though!
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RMartinez:
McCartney's band has not "opened" for him in ten years, it ain't gonna happen now. It's a cute dream, though!
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Paul's booking fees might have decreased throughout the years because of the set list and playing basically the same show. The stones could get away with asking $ 7 million per show because they haven't toured since 2007. The smiths.....$5 million is fair, because they were one of the best bands coming out of the 80's. Prince $ 4 million???? that's too much. I think if Paul wants to remain in the " Top Tier" acts....he must have a new show. At least come up with different tricks, for example, different concept, different stage, different songs etc....... I go to a lot of concerts, so I have a lot of shows and tours to compare to. U2 , every time they go on tour have a different stage, different concept, and most importantly, different set lists. Same thing with other bands..... even the stones....for their 5 shows they did last year, they rehearsed 90 different songs!!!!!!!!! Roger waters.....he is doing " the wall" this time around, however , last time he was doing " dark side of the moon" Sting was doing the symphony tour, now he is doing "back to bass" mark knopfler, he has a new album every 2 years and a tour to promote it. Gosh, even ringo......ringo has been releasing on average a new album every 2 years with a tour to support his new songs..... And for macca? it's been sort of like his "greatest hits" tour forever..... that might be the reason why promoters aren't able to demand a higher booking fee for paul... $2.5 million isn't much.....that puts him in the same catetory as the red hot chili peppers- phoenix, Blur, Stone Roses etc..... top tier would be $4 million plus acts like " stones, U2, the smiths, prince... second tier would be below $2.5 million third tier $ 1 million fourth : under $1 million.
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maccala:
I go to a lot of concerts, so I have a lot of shows and tours to compare to. U2 , every time they go on tour have a different stage, different concept, and most importantly, different set lists. Same thing with other bands.....{snip} Sting was doing the symphony tour, now he is doing "back to bass"
Back to Bass is not a new tour; Sting did a tour with the exact same name at least a year or so ago.
And for macca? it's been sort of like his "greatest hits" tour forever.....
Because that's how he likes it. He used to change up his tours, too; I've seen them all. But now he apparently feels that what the fans want to see, especially at large shows, is hits and Beatles songs. Look at his set list for Coachella - also a young audience there, but not much drastically different. It would be wonderful fun to get a radical set list change but at this point, I never *expect* it.
that might be the reason why promoters aren't able to demand a higher booking fee for paul...
I don't think it's the promoters demanding a fee for Paul - I think that it's Paul asking to be paid a guaranteed amount upfront before he commits to do any show. Promoters have to pay him first, no matter if they sell 1 ticket or 100,000.
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audi:
LonelyRoad:
audi:
Well, they're important enough for Paul to mention their tenth anniversary of playing with him. I'll take it a step further and insist that they've all earned the right to open the show with a handful of their original songs.
You might be the only one who wants to see that.
You're wrong.
In an interview with Billboard in February 2012, McCartney said of his tour band: "Aren't they cool? We're having a really great time, and last year we played quite a few dates. They're such a pleasure to play with. We all enjoy each other's company and the musicianship, and next month we will have been playing together 10 years. That's long enough to make us a proper band.
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audi:
audi:
LonelyRoad:
audi:
Well, they're important enough for Paul to mention their tenth anniversary of playing with him. I'll take it a step further and insist that they've all earned the right to open the show with a handful of their original songs.
You might be the only one who wants to see that.
You're wrong.
In an interview with Billboard in February 2012, McCartney said of his tour band: "Aren't they cool? We're having a really great time, and last year we played quite a few dates. They're such a pleasure to play with. We all enjoy each other's company and the musicianship, and next month we will have been playing together 10 years. That's long enough to make us a proper band.
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The thing to remember is that Wix, Abe, Rusty and Brian are Paul's back up band, a proper band, but still HIS band. Out side of performing with Paul, they do other musical projects separately. They are not a BAND outside of performing with McCartney. Brian, for example, has the Bayonets. Now, maybe Paul could ask the Bayonets to perform at a show opening. But it really is not realistic to think his band can play for 30 minutes. What would be play? When would they rehearse? Would they get paid extra? A lot to consider.
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RMartinez:
The thing to remember is that Wix, Abe, Rusty and Brian are Paul's back up band, a proper band, but still HIS band. Out side of performing with Paul, they do other musical projects separately. They are not a BAND outside of performing with McCartney. Brian, for example, has the Bayonets. Now, maybe Paul could ask the Bayonets to perform at a show opening. But it really is not realistic to think his band can play for 30 minutes. What would be play? When would they rehearse? Would they get paid extra? A lot to consider.
Duly noted.
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audi:
audi:
LonelyRoad:
audi:
Well, they're important enough for Paul to mention their tenth anniversary of playing with him. I'll take it a step further and insist that they've all earned the right to open the show with a handful of their original songs.
You might be the only one who wants to see that.
You're wrong.
In an interview with Billboard in February 2012, McCartney said of his tour band: "Aren't they cool? We're having a really great time, and last year we played quite a few dates. They're such a pleasure to play with. We all enjoy each other's company and the musicianship, and next month we will have been playing together 10 years. That's long enough to make us a proper band.
like he would say anything (esp in an interview) even if one of them was being an a$$?
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maccascruff:
I seriously doubt any member of this band are millionaires, let alone multi-millionaires. Paul has never been known to pay his bands well. Ask Stella about her dad and his money.
And let's not forget that multi-millionaire, Denny Laine. He didn't just play with Paul, but he co-wrote many Wings' songs. 
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I don't think this is a Paul issue, I don't think the band members for Eric Clapton, Sting, Elton John, etc. are millionaires either. They are all working musicians who probably make a comfortable living, but these major artists are collecting the lion's share of the earnings, as it should be. Now, all the members of U2 are all millionaires. That is a BAND.
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RMartinez:
I don't think this is a Paul issue, I don't think the band members for Eric Clapton, Sting, Elton John, etc. are millionaires either. They are all working musicians who probably make a comfortable living, but these major artists are collecting the lion's share of the earnings, as it should be. Now, all the members of U2 are all millionaires. That is a BAND.
I couldn't agree more. The guys in Paul's band are great, but they're not in a band with Paul in the sense that Foo Fighters are a band.
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Guys... This band has played about 200-250 standalone gigs with McCartney at this point. The gross revenue of a normal McCartney gig is about 1-2 million dollars. Do the math. They are all part of one of the biggest businesses in the music industry right now. 'In service of', or not. Besides that, do you really think McCartney could face them having to be standby for 10 years and leaving everything behind to go on tour if he didn't paid them reasonably well? The 'magic' and 'golden opportunity'-factor wears off at a certain moment. We really don't have to worry about them ;). Apart from that, maybe more on topic, there isn't really such thing as a set 'fee' when an artist is setting up a tour. A 'fee' is for festivals and for example private performances. In a normal situation the venue isn't 'paying' anyone, they are simply said making a deal on how to split the income of the evening. Both parties are needing each other to make a profit. The revenues from for example Mexico City '11 ($5,988,030 dollars, capacity 57,726) is not comparable to Zurich a few months later ($1,540,880 dollars, with 8,010 attendees. You aren't talking about a 'fee' there.
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No one said McCartney does not pay his band well. Do you really think THEY tell him, "We all better be multimillionaires when this is all done, because if we weren't in a band with you, we would all be multimillionaires." That's ridiculous. Yes, the band has agents who negotiate for them, but realistically, Paul can call anyone in the business to be in his band. I would guess they are on retainer or something, to the tune of $100,000 every year or something like that. So over ten years maybe they made a million, but they have to live and buy things. These guys were already making a living in music before McCartney rang. Brian wrote a hit song for Smokey Robinson. But people like McCartney and Bowie and Elton John are not multimillionaires because they allow a bunch of other people in their camp make millions as well. That is NOT how it works.
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RMartinez:
No one said McCartney does not pay his band well. Do you really think THEY tell him, "We all better be multimillionaires when this is all done, because if we weren't in a band with you, we would all be multimillionaires." That's ridiculous. Yes, the band has agents who negotiate for them, but realistically, Paul can call anyone in the business to be in his band. I would guess they are on retainer or something, to the tune of $100,000 every year or something like that. So over ten years maybe they made a million, but they have to live and buy things. These guys were already making a living in music before McCartney rang. Brian wrote a hit song for Smokey Robinson. But people like McCartney and Bowie and Elton John are not multimillionaires because they allow a bunch of other people in their camp make millions as well. That is NOT how it works.
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Yeah, the Zurich Gig did not sell well at all. The ticket sales were very soft. If to bring paul to Zurich cost $2 million, and only 8000 tickets were sold, did that show actually lose money? In 2002 Paul said in an interview" nobody goes out on tour to lose money....." I think the reason why ticket sales were soft for the 3 European dates in 2012 was because of the set list.......If you watched the Back in the US DVD you pretty much could predict the current show.....any thoughts?
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KingMacca:
RMartinez:
No one said McCartney does not pay his band well. Do you really think THEY tell him, "We all better be multimillionaires when this is all done, because if we weren't in a band with you, we would all be multimillionaires." That's ridiculous. Yes, the band has agents who negotiate for them, but realistically, Paul can call anyone in the business to be in his band. I would guess they are on retainer or something, to the tune of $100,000 every year or something like that. So over ten years maybe they made a million, but they have to live and buy things. These guys were already making a living in music before McCartney rang. Brian wrote a hit song for Smokey Robinson. But people like McCartney and Bowie and Elton John are not multimillionaires because they allow a bunch of other people in their camp make millions as well. That is NOT how it works.
Actually though, Brian asked to try out thru Abe. It's all in the Up and Coming Tour programme.Abe actually suggested Brian for the SuperBowl gig, but aside from that, I totally agree with you.
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walliebaby:
KingMacca:
RMartinez:
No one said McCartney does not pay his band well. Do you really think THEY tell him, "We all better be multimillionaires when this is all done, because if we weren't in a band with you, we would all be multimillionaires." That's ridiculous. Yes, the band has agents who negotiate for them, but realistically, Paul can call anyone in the business to be in his band. I would guess they are on retainer or something, to the tune of $100,000 every year or something like that. So over ten years maybe they made a million, but they have to live and buy things. These guys were already making a living in music before McCartney rang. Brian wrote a hit song for Smokey Robinson. But people like McCartney and Bowie and Elton John are not multimillionaires because they allow a bunch of other people in their camp make millions as well. That is NOT how it works.
Actually though, Brian asked to try out thru Abe. It's all in the Up and Coming Tour programme.Abe actually suggested Brian for the SuperBowl gig, but aside from that, I totally agree with you.
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KingMacca:
walliebaby:
KingMacca:
RMartinez:
No one said McCartney does not pay his band well. Do you really think THEY tell him, "We all better be multimillionaires when this is all done, because if we weren't in a band with you, we would all be multimillionaires." That's ridiculous. Yes, the band has agents who negotiate for them, but realistically, Paul can call anyone in the business to be in his band. I would guess they are on retainer or something, to the tune of $100,000 every year or something like that. So over ten years maybe they made a million, but they have to live and buy things. These guys were already making a living in music before McCartney rang. Brian wrote a hit song for Smokey Robinson. But people like McCartney and Bowie and Elton John are not multimillionaires because they allow a bunch of other people in their camp make millions as well. That is NOT how it works.
Actually though, Brian asked to try out thru Abe. It's all in the Up and Coming Tour programme.Abe actually suggested Brian for the SuperBowl gig, but aside from that, I totally agree with you.
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Why do you think Brian has formed the Bayonets, Rusty played some gigs in Iceland and Abe plays solo gigs? They are intelligent men. They all know that at any time Paul could pull the plug as far as they are concerned. Nobody knows how long Paul will tour or what form it will take. When Paul stops touring, it's over for them. They are not getting song writing credits with Paul. Depending on the advice they receive from their agents and financial people, any one of the three may actually be doing better than any of the others. We don't need to know the details.
