Paul's 2002 tour "rider" (list of demands)
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Michelley:
moptops:
cfergoid:
I hate reading stuff like that...big deal if something isn't quite perfect!! Get your head outta yer arse Paul!!
Agreed. Bloody hell, it the Beatles days, they'd be lucky to get four chairs, a heater and egg and chips! What a tosser.
And if it was the Beatles days there would be cheap lousy speakers that insured no one could hear the music. But it isn't the Beatles days. The concert scene has changed since 1964, and if these detailed riders had been standard back then -- as they are standard for every performer now -- the Beatles would have have had one, too. One of the reasons they stopped touring was because of the lousy conditions. And it seems really unnecessary to indulge in name-calling to make your point.
The Beatles DID have a rider. Very simple, actually. Four cots, two limos with drivers...
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maccascruff:
I don't know why this has suddenly re-appeared.
Because I came across it yesterday. No harm intended.
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liverpoolbride:
I believe that back in the Beatles days..the boys got what they wanted..at least in the latter days anyway. Even if it wasn't in writing..?
I think all they really wanted were hot & cold running groupies, er...young ladies.
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Michelley:
moptops:
cfergoid:
I hate reading stuff like that...big deal if something isn't quite perfect!! Get your head outta yer arse Paul!!
Agreed. Bloody hell, it the Beatles days, they'd be lucky to get four chairs, a heater and egg and chips! What a tosser.
And if it was the Beatles days there would be cheap lousy speakers that insured no one could hear the music. But it isn't the Beatles days. The concert scene has changed since 1964, and if these detailed riders had been standard back then -- as they are standard for every performer now -- the Beatles would have have had one, too. One of the reasons they stopped touring was because of the lousy conditions. And it seems really unnecessary to indulge in name-calling to make your point.
The Beatles did indeed have a concert rider.
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moptops:
Michelley:
moptops:
cfergoid:
I hate reading stuff like that...big deal if something isn't quite perfect!! Get your head outta yer arse Paul!!
Agreed. Bloody hell, it the Beatles days, they'd be lucky to get four chairs, a heater and egg and chips! What a tosser.
And if it was the Beatles days there would be cheap lousy speakers that insured no one could hear the music. But it isn't the Beatles days. The concert scene has changed since 1964, and if these detailed riders had been standard back then -- as they are standard for every performer now -- the Beatles would have have had one, too. One of the reasons they stopped touring was because of the lousy conditions. And it seems really unnecessary to indulge in name-calling to make your point.
The Beatles did indeed have a concert rider.
Yes, I know they did. A copy of one of the Beatles' riders has been available for years on the Smoking Gun Web site -- just like this 10-year-old rider of Paul's has been available for a long time on that same Web site and has been written about many times before. What I said in my post was that "if these detailed riders" -- the key word being "detailed" -- had been standard procedure back in the 60s, the Beatles would have had a ton of specific tour demands, too. But back then, artists didn't get to call the shots on a tour like they do today. So comparing simple riders from 50 years ago with the detailed riders that every top performer has today is comparing apples and oranges. And I still don't see the need to attack Paul with rude names for doing something that is standard operating procedure TODAY.
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No one told Ringo that he could demand stuff? I couldn't find anything for him.
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Michelley:
moptops:
Michelley:
moptops:
cfergoid:
I hate reading stuff like that...big deal if something isn't quite perfect!! Get your head outta yer arse Paul!!
Agreed. Bloody hell, it the Beatles days, they'd be lucky to get four chairs, a heater and egg and chips! What a tosser.
And if it was the Beatles days there would be cheap lousy speakers that insured no one could hear the music. But it isn't the Beatles days. The concert scene has changed since 1964, and if these detailed riders had been standard back then -- as they are standard for every performer now -- the Beatles would have have had one, too. One of the reasons they stopped touring was because of the lousy conditions. And it seems really unnecessary to indulge in name-calling to make your point.
The Beatles did indeed have a concert rider.
Yes, I know they did. A copy of one of the Beatles' riders has been available for years on the Smoking Gun Web site -- just like this 10-year-old rider of Paul's has been available for a long time on that same Web site and has been written about many times before. What I said in my post was that "if these detailed riders" -- the key word being "detailed" -- had been standard procedure back in the 60s, the Beatles would have had a ton of specific tour demands, too. But back then, artists didn't get to call the shots on a tour like they do today. So comparing simple riders from 50 years ago with the detailed riders that every top performer has today is comparing apples and oranges. And I still don't see the need to attack Paul with rude names for doing something that is standard operating procedure TODAY.
Not attacking Paul, attacking the concept of celebrity. They have clearly lost touch with reality and are in need of some perspective if the genuinely believe that stuff is as important as they make out.
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cfergoid:
Michelley:
moptops:
Michelley:
moptops:
cfergoid:
I hate reading stuff like that...big deal if something isn't quite perfect!! Get your head outta yer arse Paul!!
Agreed. Bloody hell, it the Beatles days, they'd be lucky to get four chairs, a heater and egg and chips! What a tosser.
And if it was the Beatles days there would be cheap lousy speakers that insured no one could hear the music. But it isn't the Beatles days. The concert scene has changed since 1964, and if these detailed riders had been standard back then -- as they are standard for every performer now -- the Beatles would have have had one, too. One of the reasons they stopped touring was because of the lousy conditions. And it seems really unnecessary to indulge in name-calling to make your point.
The Beatles did indeed have a concert rider.
Yes, I know they did. A copy of one of the Beatles' riders has been available for years on the Smoking Gun Web site -- just like this 10-year-old rider of Paul's has been available for a long time on that same Web site and has been written about many times before. What I said in my post was that "if these detailed riders" -- the key word being "detailed" -- had been standard procedure back in the 60s, the Beatles would have had a ton of specific tour demands, too. But back then, artists didn't get to call the shots on a tour like they do today. So comparing simple riders from 50 years ago with the detailed riders that every top performer has today is comparing apples and oranges. And I still don't see the need to attack Paul with rude names for doing something that is standard operating procedure TODAY.
Not attacking Paul, attacking the concept of celebrity. They have clearly lost touch with reality and are in need of some perspective if the genuinely believe that stuff is as important as they make out.
They sure have. "I'm still a normal bloke from Liverpool..." What nonsense!
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Paul is hardly the worst when it comes to demands backstage: http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/wtf/madonna_demands_right_height_flowers_on_mdna_tour.html "Madonna's rider for her current world tour has been revealed - and it includes flowers in her dressing room which have been trimmed to an appropriate height. Madonna demands her blooms be snipped to exactly 15.24cm (6in), reports US magazine Touch, who also claim that she has her own home replicated wherever she travels. Her own home must include 30 bodyguards, a personal acupuncturist and 200 more members of staff to see to her every need while on tour, as these are also on the extensive list. "Madonna requires all the furniture be removed from the rooms and replaced with her own pieces that she has shipped in," says a source to the magazine. She is also said to demand 20 international phone lines and all fabric in her quarters be fragranced with pink roses and lillies."
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MaccaBeatles:
...Her [Madonna's] own home must include 30 bodyguards, a personal acupuncturist and 200 more members of staff to see to her every need while on tour, as these are also on the extensive list. "Madonna requires all the furniture be removed from the rooms and replaced with her own pieces that she has shipped in," says a source to the magazine. ...
Geez! No wonder she's still touring so much! Her payroll must be astronomical!
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It doesn't sound all that bad to me. just flowers, plants and no leather, and all veggie catering I just wonder how do they manage the no leather in the limo? I would think that's standard on any limo
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oobu24:
No one told Ringo that he could demand stuff? I couldn't find anything for him.
Just the part about his riser for his drums and the size requirements.
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Nancy R:
oobu24:
No one told Ringo that he could demand stuff? I couldn't find anything for him.
Just the part about his riser for his drums and the size requirements.
Yeah I read that one...but I meant for current times. Maybe he's listed under all star band?
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oobu24:
Nancy R:
oobu24:
No one told Ringo that he could demand stuff? I couldn't find anything for him.
Just the part about his riser for his drums and the size requirements.
Yeah I read that one...but I meant for current times. Maybe he's listed under all star band?
Oh I see!
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oobu24:
Nancy R:
oobu24:
Funny how all these old articles start popping up as if they are new. oh & didn't he & Nancy stay at a cowboy place on their RT 66 trip? Now I would imagine there had to be a LOT OF LEATHER in that place.
what...no leather whip jokes?
Nope. Paul might prefer a wooden paddle instead.
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I get these guys holding copies of these riders all the time in my store looking for stuff on it. God, is it funny what's on the lists sometimes. a nameless pop star (no not Paul) who is quite up there in age had Horny Goat Weed on his. Yep. We talked about it and laughed.
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Kathryn O:
I get these guys holding copies of these riders all the time in my store looking for stuff on it. God, is it funny what's on the lists sometimes. a nameless pop star (no not Paul) who is quite up there in age had Horny Goat Weed on his. Yep. We talked about it and laughed.
WTF is Horny Goat Weed and where do you work?
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Nancy R:
Kathryn O:
I get these guys holding copies of these riders all the time in my store looking for stuff on it. God, is it funny what's on the lists sometimes. a nameless pop star (no not Paul) who is quite up there in age had Horny Goat Weed on his. Yep. We talked about it and laughed.
WTF is Horny Goat Weed and where do you work?
yes, inquiring minds want to know.
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Horny Goat Weed is an herb and yes, that is it's actual name. Shepherds observed the goats eating it and getting frisky so that's where it got its name. I do medicine shows. I work on the Island of Misfit Toys. I thought you guys knew that.