Granny Music
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Hendrix Ibsen:
Bruce M.:
Hendrix Ibsen:
These granny songs could equally have been called children songs. "Maxwell's Silver Hammer'" musically is typical McCartney that I loved as a kid, so fresh and fun. It was only later that I found out what it's about, a dualistic song, lighthearted about something dark.
The idea of murdering people by smashing them on the head with a hammer never struck you as dark?
like I said; lighthearted about something dark. The music is light and fun, it's a parody, cabaret. The judge also gets the hammer, at the end of the song. It's too silly to be heard as a serious song about murder.
I totally agree. I've always loved Maxwell. Every song does not need to be over analyzed.
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When I 'm 64 was one of my first favorite Beatles so gs before I knew who they were in elementary school because I was learning the clarinet.
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HaileyMcComet:
The Beatles are eternal.
Hendrix Ibsen:
All of us who come after must lend their band.
I don't know what this means.
He never really explained this, but maybe he meant it as pun on "lend their hand" like we should lend the younger generation our band (The Beatles) so they see how great they were.
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Well, I don't know how to explain it exactly but when I was fan of The Beatles as a kid some people wondered why, because it was not considered my generation.
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HaileyMcComet:
To today's teenagers, The Beatles are granny music.
.........and many of those original Beatle fans are now grannies (and grandads) so maybe Paul was simply making music ahead of its time?
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I love these songs by Paul
Love Honey Pie, When I'm 64, Obla Di Obla Da. Not so much Maxwell (but my nephew loves it). Not sure I buy John hating them either. I think he was as much a fan of Paul as Paul is of his, I think when he said that he was trying to play on the "unhipness" (sp?) of it, out of pure jelousy. Totally agree about the diversity of The Beatles being one of the best things about them, and that that was mainly brought in by Paul, that's clear from their solo careers.
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crisstti:
I love these songs by Paul
Love Honey Pie, When I'm 64, Obla Di Obla Da. Not so much Maxwell (but my nephew loves it). Not sure I buy John hating them either. I think he was as much a fan of Paul as Paul is of his, I think when he said that he was trying to play on the "unhipness" (sp?) of it, out of pure jelousy. Totally agree about the diversity of The Beatles being one of the best things about them, and that that was mainly brought in by Paul, that's clear from their solo careers.
I love or admire those songs too. Great "breakers" on an album. All about diversity. And whilst they may not have been John's cup of tea, I reckon he at least could appreciate them. He may have even been a bit envious, the great man. One of his last songs was "Grow Old With Me". Not exactly his tradmark. More Paul than John. At least in music style. John's lyrics were still stamped on it. We will never know if John intended it to be released, but I like it. But it could also be interpreted by some as "granny music". He was just getting re-started. So who bloody knows.
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I have always admired how outspoken John Lennon was. But being raw and honest is not always the same as saying the truth, especially not if it is tempered by anger or jealousy, like with "How Do You Sleep?", you know that he meant it when he wrote and recorded it, at the moment, but hardly in the big picture... I think his 'brutal honesty' took him to great heights on "John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band".
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Kestrel:
........and many of those original Beatle fans are now grannies (and grandads) so maybe Paul was simply making music ahead of its time?
He really was.
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John had a hard bite in a lot of what he did. Paul has teeth but uses them less.
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HaileyMcComet:
To today's teenagers, The Beatles are granny music.
My thoughts exactly. The Beatles wide ranging repertoire is the reason from a pretty early age that I could appreciate the likes of Frank Sinatra, Dean Martin , Peggy Lee (one of Paul's faves I believe), Glen Miller and all the jazz greats etc, etc. There was great music before the 60's & 50''s Look at the Beatles earlier repertoire in Hamburg etc. They were covering songs from the 30's and 40's like Til There Was You, Red Sails In The Sunset, Falling In Love Again, Besame Mucho, September In The Rain & Your Feet's Too Big. I for one love Paul's so called granny music.
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John meant that many of Paul's songs sounded like music from the 30s and 40s. Neither John nor George wrote in that medium, and John was poking fun, taking the mickey out of Paul, which he was apt to do so often. John also respected the hell out of Paul's talents and was in awe of them. Like all brothers, there was a competition there. Paul had a similar admiration for John. To this day he is seeking out a songwriting partner with John's visceral talent to collaborate with. He hasn't and won't succeed.
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Apollo C. Vermouth:
There was great music before the 60's & 50''s
Be careful. Saying something like that can enrage some people.
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Maybe Beethoven was considered granny music once. Or youth music. Now it's called classical music because they are all dead and only the music remains.
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Have read that 1920's and 30's slang is coming into fashion again...phrases like the bee's knees, geeze Louise please, the cat's pajamas, jada, jada, jada jada jing jing jing, perhaps Macca's granny music fortold this new and both "old" trend too
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Fashions go around in circles don't they? Not like history repeats itself precisely but influences and mixes that makes it "New". I've read that the 60s-70s hippie era was a bit like the 1920's; 'the roaring twenties'. McCartney wrote some songs at this time that sound inspired from the era.
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I've been saying bee's knees all my life. 23 skidoo is another story.
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HaileyMcComet:
I've been saying bee's knees all my life. 23 skidoo is another story.
BeesKnees is a font.
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"From carlient days in Liverpool, George and I on the one hand and Paul on the other, had different musical tastes. Paul preferred 'pop type' music and we preferred what is now called 'underground'. This may have led to arguments, particularly Paul and George, but the contrast in taste, I'm sure, did more good than harm, musically speaking, and contributed to our success." -John Lennon
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Yes, I think I can see what Lennon says there. Of the three, and especially solo, I think perhaps Harrison was the one who wrote the fewest rock songs, As a pop style I also think Harrison is closer to adult contemporary, they are less 'silly' than McCartney's pop songs which are more like catchy fun type of hits. Although they overlap and have things in common. Rock & roll and McCartney seems like a thing he always come back to, while Lennon was the one who was 'saved by rock 'n' roll'.
