New Book: Paul McCartney, The Life
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DeniseLM227:
But, I have Man on the Run here (almost finished with it) and it does a pretty good job with the Wings years. So at least there are good books out there, even with the occasional error. Sounds like this Norman book has more than the occasional error, though. Too bad--wasted an opportunity to do a good bio.
Man On The Run certainly covers the 1970's in far more detail than Philip Norman's book does.
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DeniseLM227:
JoeySmith:
Paul's new book getting pretty lousy reviews, according to Amazon.
I saw those. Some of them sound like the reviewer hasn't bothered to read the book, though. The critical reviews I've seen of the book have been more favorable. I have the book, planning to start it this week. I guess I'll just decide for myself.
Now days you get the feeling that many reviewers don't bother to read, listen or watch something before reviewing it.
Case in point, after Paul's wonderful Ocean Kingdom was performed in NYC, the next morning, a London newspaper had review after review of the performance. So I went on to ask how the reviewers were giving a review, on a ballet performed in New York, when they were obviously in the UK. Had they all flown back to the UK after the performance on the red eye?! Needless to say, there were not any responses. It's a pity that so many people seem to enjoy being so mean to others, anonymously. It's bullying really. Planning on getting the book too! -
I read the entire Wings years section in the book shop (you think I was going to buy the thing?) and the only info I learned out of all that, was that 'Proud Mum' was used in a commercial for Mothers Pride bread. Can anyone confirm this to be true?
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ewanme:
I read the entire Wings years section in the book shop (you think I was going to buy the thing?) and the only info I learned out of all that, was that 'Proud Mum' was used in a commercial for Mothers Pride bread. Can anyone confirm this to be true?
Correct...I think!
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Norman's Shout! came out in the wake of Lennon's death and it was more fashionable then to diss Macca. Also, Macca seemed like a nice family guy, was more current having been in Wings while Lennon had gone AWOL for five years, so it was more of a news story to expose Macca as not as nice as he seemed, it's a common tabloid thing where it's a big deal to reveal that a celeb is not as they depict themselves in the airbrushed version. Amazingly, I think Shout! was the first really decent Beatles bio, the ones up until then being cut and paste jobs. It's almost as if until then a pop band, no matter how mega, just didn't warrant a serious retrospective, almost in the same way they didn't warrant an art exhibition either. So it must have been galling for Macca to find that the first to come along paints him so badly. It wasn't just that Norman took sides, rather that it was so relentless, to the point that you thought, well, okay, just why did Lennon hang out with him for over a decade if they had sweet FA in common? I think that doing the Lennon bio maybe put him off a bit and redressed the balance. I think he found out his idol had clay feet really, or to some extent.
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moptops:
ewanme:
I read the entire Wings years section in the book shop (you think I was going to buy the thing?) and the only info I learned out of all that, was that 'Proud Mum' was used in a commercial for Mothers Pride bread. Can anyone confirm this to be true?
Correct...I think!
I tried to find it on youtube but it didn't come up.
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This book has over 800 pages, would be a good long pretty absorbing read--will ask the library to get this--but I always recall that Macca pronounced most books about him " Rubbish." He seldom really approves or enjoys any about him. Doubtless he harbored reservations about this one too but went ahead and said Okay he'd be okay with it, but I doubt he was jumping for joy. He is rather a private person when it comes to his personal life.
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oobu24:
moptops:
ewanme:
I read the entire Wings years section in the book shop (you think I was going to buy the thing?) and the only info I learned out of all that, was that 'Proud Mum' was used in a commercial for Mothers Pride bread. Can anyone confirm this to be true?
Correct...I think!
I tried to find it on youtube but it didn't come up.
Yeah, me too
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Well, I don't know how may times exactly he refers to Paul's "brown eyes.", but it's a lot! We all know Paul himself has said his eyes are "hazel". So, just how much research did he actually d0? Plus, he recycles many stories that later were dis-credited, such as in Lewisohn's book. So, just who do we believe?
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The fact so many have cited inaccuracies puts me off immediately. Now they might be "little" inaccuracies.... but still.... hard to lay credence on a book that hasn't had every little sentence and fact triple checked.
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Thisbe211:
Well, I don't know how may times exactly he refers to Paul's "brown eyes.", but it's a lot! We all know Paul himself has said his eyes are "hazel". So, just how much research did he actually d0? Plus, he recycles many stories that later were dis-credited, such as in Lewisohn's book. So, just who do we believe?
Paul and Mark Lewisohn! Mark is meticulous in his research and if he's not sure, he tells both stories and tells you he's not sure! That's why it's taking so long to get Part 2 out because he is a perfectionist. But it will be worth it, as Part 1 was!
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toris:
The fact so many have cited inaccuracies puts me off immediately. Now they might be "little" inaccuracies.... but still.... hard to lay credence on a book that hasn't had every little sentence and fact triple checked.
I understand. I felt the same after watching Back Beat. They showed John singing Long Tall Sally. I ask you! <window opened - disc frisbeed - peak hour traffic did the rest>
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The "Shout" author's book on John Lennon was okay but nothing spectacular. I read it and it didn't have much of an impact on me, considering the dynamic subject.
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moptops:
toris:
The fact so many have cited inaccuracies puts me off immediately. Now they might be "little" inaccuracies.... but still.... hard to lay credence on a book that hasn't had every little sentence and fact triple checked.
I understand. I felt the same after watching Back Beat. They showed John singing Long Tall Sally. I ask you! <window opened - disc frisbeed - peak hour traffic did the rest>
Sheryl Lee, on the back of Twin Peaks, was the only thing worth watching about that movie. Dorff wasn't too bad. He's done nothing since. Haven't seen the movie for a long time (well, since release), but from memory, it was another of those that depicted John as nasty
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"Backbeat" was artsy, atmospheric, impressionistic...wasn't meant to be very realistic, but more artistic. I like it. Steven Dorff starred in a Sophia Coppola movie and in advertisments for e-vap ciggies, dated Pam Anderson for a while
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...and provided the "Ugh!" in Lenny Kravitz's "American Woman." #FunFact
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audi:
...and provided the "Ugh!" in Lenny Kravitz's "American Woman." #FunFact
Reminds me of when Bowie died and some guys at work were talking about his song "Fame." They had no idea that was John doing the high "Fame!' etc.! These young whippersnappers, you know!
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