Another Paul/Kanye collaboration?
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As Randy Jackson would say: Y_ou, yo, dawg...it was a little pitchy._ And I'll bet that El DeBarge is the main culprit: He had a semi-comeback a couple of years ago, and I saw his appearance on Arsenio Hall's new talk-show ... dreadful vocals. He still had his range, but he couldn't stay in tune to save his life.
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Nancy R:
Pure genius. This is what McCartney should be doing at this point in his career.
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Lordy, "RMartinez"... ...it's been sarcasm-o-rama with you lately.
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audi:
Lordy, "RMartinez"... ...it's been sarcasm-o-rama with you lately.
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I hope I'm wrong, but it's starting to look like this Macca/Kanye thing might be exceeding its "sell by" date now.
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Think I've read that McCartney will appear on several tracks on Kanye West's new album, but I think if it's just more McCartney in the background, they have already been there done that.
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With all respect, this sums it up so well. This doesn't even sound like Kanye West's post-accident, let alone his production work in 2015. A rough demo from 2001, pre-breakthrough. 'Have It Your Way', a skeleton of 'Bring Me Down' from the Multi-Platinum, Grammy Award-winning 'Late Registration'-album from 2005. Clutching at straws in the hope they can knock down one of the most influential artists of my time, one their very own hero is eager to work with on creative level. While 'All Day' is being regarded as one of the most impressive rap songs from this year, let's ignore that, and discuss a 15 year old demo instead. Even an article about it with zero references, knowledge or research?!
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Ah ... so those bad vocals were Kanye's then. Curious to hear the polished new version.
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audi:
Ah ... so those bad vocals were Kanye's then. Curious to hear the polished new version.
Here it is, released 10 years ago
One of the best-regarded hip hop albums from the 00's. And, linked to it so many times, but gets ignored anyway, here's Kanye West singing in pure form, 04:09: No pretensions.
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audi:
I hope I'm wrong, but it's starting to look like this Macca/Kanye thing might be exceeding its "sell by" date now.
You mean "sell out"......... [waiting for the fall out by certain members for that jab]
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I associate sell by date with something trendy. Sell out more like Bowie's "Let's Dance" maybe, although I think it's a catchy record, but many fans think it's too commercial, that Bowie is better when he is more artistic.
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Hendrix Ibsen:
I associate sell by date with something trendy. Sell out more like Bowie's "Let's Dance" maybe, although I think it's a catchy record, but many fans think it's too commercial, that Bowie is better when he is more artistic.
Let's Dance was not a sell out. It was the culmination of everything Bowie ever wanted or worked toward. He ALWAYS wanted to be a commercial success. Bowie would never do anything he didn't WANT to do.
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Yes possibly, isn't "Ziggy Stardust" about the dream to be a star? I think Bowie can be artistic and make interesting music, but performing his greatest hits aren't far away. He always has one foot in the mainstream. He's not Scott Walker, who left showbiz completely and reinvented himself as a contemporary composer.
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Hendrix Ibsen:
Yes possibly, isn't "Ziggy Stardust" about the dream to be a star? I think Bowie can be artistic and make interesting music, but performing his greatest hits aren't far away. He always has one foot in the mainstream. He's not Scott Walker, who left showbiz completely and reinvented himself as a contemporary composer.
Ziggy Stardust was about re-inventing himself. He had tried to be a mainstream pop star and a Dylan-esque singer songwriter, and it didn't work. So he invented Ziggy Stardust and it caught on. But it didn't make him the major mainstream artist he had always wanted to be. Let's Dance did. Some have argued Let's Dance was just another mask. Which is possible. But it was no more a sell out than Young Americans, his foray into Philadelphia funk. Or the Thin White Duke.
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I remember "Let's Dance" very fondly and I'm still fond of it, like most Bowie records, so I'm not really the one to call it a sellout. I've always said that whatever is was, it worked! Stevie Ray Vaughan is on that album, listen to his guitar... and Nile Rodgers' production is rather basic, it's a good band album, the 80s production came later, on "Tonight".
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The Let's Dance album had one of the all-time best guitarists playing on it -- Stevie Ray Vaughan. 'Nuff said. I think history has been unkind to that album, more so because Bowie had -- once again -- used his powers as a chameleon to reinvent his image. He morphed into a polished, '80s pretty boy. But the music was a genuine as ever.
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audi:
The Let's Dance album had one of the all-time best guitarists playing on it -- Stevie Ray Vaughan. 'Nuff said. I think history has been unkind to that album, more so because Bowie had -- once again -- used his powers as a chameleon to reinvent his image. He morphed into a polished, '80s pretty boy. But the music was a genuine as ever.
Exactly. On all points!
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audi:
The Let's Dance album had one of the all-time best guitarists playing on it -- Stevie Ray Vaughan. 'Nuff said. I think history has been unkind to that album, more so because Bowie had -- once again -- used his powers as a chameleon to reinvent his image. He morphed into a polished, '80s pretty boy. But the music was a genuine as ever.
Absolutely!
