A New Balanced Paul Compilation / 4 or 5 Disc By Each Decade
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Much to the chagrin of some, I am home recovering from an Ear Skin Operation. That gives me far more time on my hands than usual...I feel sorry for you guys! Now that Paul is back with Capitol maybe we can see in the next couple of years a "REAL" McCartney Post Beatles Compilation that gives any music lover a much better BALANCE of Paul's entire career after the Beatles. As several true Paul fans have pointed out...Pure McCartney seemed to have just been thrown together to sell CD's. Little thought was given to a career that has spanned close to 50 years from an artist that has never stopped recording.. I think the best way to give real balance on a career spanning set is to divide each disc into Decades. The downside of Pure McCartney is that it had far too many gaps in his full career. There were too many tracks from certain albums (e.g. New, Flaming Pie, BOTR etc.) and none (or only 1) from other albums (e.g. Flowers in the Dirt, Driving Rain, Red Rose Speedway etc.). Pure McCartney also seemed to focus too much on the big hits, the singles and the most known songs. Worse yet, there were probably 10 songs that left most Macca true fans scratching their heads when they saw the 67 song tracklist.. Conversely the Set left off many of Paul's best album cuts, best B-sides etc. Because it largely covered the hits, there was also too much of a focus on Paul's Pop/Ballad side. As a true fan of Paul's Post Beatles' Career, Pure McCartney certainly did not do an accurate job of telling people who Paul, the artist, really is. So many of the songs are songs that people already know and in many cases were played to death. A real comprehensive compilation or anthology should tell people who the artist is. Not just the Silly Love Songs, My Love, Ebony & Ivory and Say Say Say Paul. Leave that for the greatest hits package that Paul already now has. There was also not nearly enough of the Rocking/Wacky side of Paul represented. As mentioned, the best way to create a "REAL" Macca Compilation is to divide the set by Decades. That being said, I am listing certain criteria to be used to accomplish the goals I stated above: *No Beatle songs (this is a Paul Solo/Wings project) *No more than 4 songs from any one individual Pop/Rock studio album *At least 1 track from every Paul Pop/Rock studio album *As much as possible, don't duplicate tracks from Pure McCartney (unless it is a different version (e.g. live version) *not focus on the enormous hits (e.g. Say Say Say, Ebony and Ivory, Silly Love Songs etc) *more of the "rocking" Paul *attempt to have a good mix of genres represented *include at least a couple of quality rare Songs (B-sides, unreleased) on each disc for the true fans *consider 2 discs for the 70's period where Paul was so prolific The way I'm thinking here is that this Compilation is not for the completists or collectors who want any and everything Paul has ever recorded. This package is still focused on good to great songs and complete songs. It is intended for music lovers (of all ages) who currently only know Paul for the "known" songs. The compilation would prove to many that Paul was "far more" than what they thought. Hopefully, someone from Capitol will see this thread and encourage Paul to produce a real and comprehensive Compilation. I will follow this up with a recommended track list by Decade. Please comment on my list with any suggestions.
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Continuation from earlier post Since we are still in the current decade (2010 to 2019) I will start with the 2000-2009 Decade. With a new projected album from Paul either this year or next, it will only add to possible selections for this current decade. Disc 2000 through 2009 Lonely Road (studio or Back in the US live) About You Your Loving Flame Heather Vanilla Sky Riding to Vanity Fair Promise to You Girl Friends to Go Jenny Wren (Live from Abbey Road) This Loving Game (B Side) Ever Present Past Vintage Clothes Mr. Bellamy House of Wax That Was Me (live from Paris) Why So Blue Sing the Changes (live version) Sun Is Shining Dance Till We're High Disc 1990 through 1999 Hope of Deliverance (live version Paul is Live) Golden Earth Girl Lovers that Never Were C'mob People (live Paul is Live version) Somedays Young Boy Heaven on a Sunday Calico Skies (Live Version) Run Devil Run What It Is Lonesome Town No Other Baby Keep Coming Back to You (Off the Ground Complete Works) Down to the River (Complete Works CD) Kicked Around No More (Complete Works CD) Every Night (Unplugged CD) Good Rocking Tonight (Unplugged) Disc 1980 through 1989 Tug of War (song) Take It Away Wanderlust ((Broad Street CD0 One of These Days (from McCartney 2) The Other Me Through Our Love No Values (Broad Street CD) Lindiana Stranglehold Footprints Only Love Remains Yvonne (demo) My Brave Face We Got Married Put It There (live version) Figure of 8 (live version0 Back on My Feet (b side Flying to My Home (b side) On the Wings of a Nightingale (Demo) Disc (1970 through 1979) Maybe I'm Amazed (live version from Wings Over America) Goodbye (Demo written for Mary Hopkin) The Mess (live at the Hague) Give Ireland Back to the Irish Smile Away Eat At Home Tomorrow Little Lamb Dragonfly Single Pigeon Country Dreamer (demo) Let Me Roll It (Live from Wings Over America) Magneto and Titanium Letting Go (Live from Wings Over America) Beware My Love I'm Carrying With a Little Luck (complete album version) Mull of Kintyre (live from Toronto version) Getting Closer Spin It On Bonus Disc (1970 to 1979) Soily (Live version Wings Over America) Dear Friend (Wildlife) Some People Never Know (Wildlife album) O Woman O Why (B side) Mama's Little Girl Get On the Right Thing Helen Wheels Bluebird Love In Song Sally G (B side) My Love (live from Wings Over America) London Town Girlschool (B side) Waterspout (demo) Winter Rose/Love Awake Daytime Night Time Suffering (B side) I'll Give You a Ring (B side) Old Siam Girl So Glad to See You Here I'm sure there are a few tracks that might be more deserving or that I've might have missed an important track or two but that is not what is important here. What is really important that a Compilation like the one above would be so much better than Pure McCartney. I think many people (not hard core Macca nuts like us) would be surprised to hear how many good songs Paul has written and that he is not anything close to the Ebony and Ivory Paul that some might suspect. There really is a "rocking" Paul if you hear a lot of his stuff. Lots of variety here and the most important thing is that it doesn't have the glaring gaps of Pure McCartney.
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As I mentioned in the last paragraph to the above post, one can nick pick over some of the selections. As I reread them even I can have some 2nd guessing. But the whole point is that this type of compilation is far more interesting than Pure McCartney that contains so many of the hits and not enough of the really good album tracks. As I reread the list, I could easily make a few changes on my own. For example: The 80's disc: The Pound is Sinking instead of Wanderlust that is already on Pure McCartney. The Pound is Sinking is a great example of Paul's rocking vocal which would be a good reason to be on it over a great song that is already on Pure McCartney. 70's Disc: Monkberry Moon Delight instead of My Love that again is already on Pure McCartney albeit I was thinking of the live version of My Love. That being said, in retrospect I think "Monkberry" is a great example of the wacky Paul and showcases his fantastic vocals in the 70's. It is a better choice in retrospect. These are just 2 substitutions I would make to make the McCartney By the Decade Compilation even better. There is no right or wrong per say but the overall theme should be great non-hit songs that are still incredible and unique.
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There's definitely many songs from each decade that are ignored in terms of being officially recognized on these compilations or being performed live...There are also a few songs that can now be labeled as 'recognized' (Nineteen Hundred and Eighty-Five, Too Many People) that were ignored for many years before finally getting their just due (although on the flip side, 1985 is starting to get over exposed at this point). Songs such as Beware My Love , Little Lamb Dragon Fly, Footprints, That Day is Done, Getting Closer and Not Such a Bad Boy is just a small sample of great songs that are only collecting dust in the McCartney archives
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rich n:
There's definitely many songs from each decade that are ignored in terms of being officially recognized on these compilations or being performed live...There are also a few songs that can now be labeled as 'recognized' (Nineteen Hundred and Eighty-Five, Too Many People) that were ignored for many years before finally getting their just due (although on the flip side, 1985 is starting to get over exposed at this point). Songs such as Beware My Love , Little Lamb Dragon Fly, Footprints, That Day is Done, Getting Closer and Not Such a Bad Boy is just a small sample of great songs that are only collecting dust in the McCartney archives
_________________________________________________________ Rich n, As mentioned, by the "Decade" is a good way to divide each Disc because there is so much material. I deliberately tried to not duplicate the songs on Pure McCartney (67 tracks) and there were still tons on good to very good songs to choose from. Notice I did include Maybe I'm Amazed and With a Little Luck. The former is probably his most iconic Solo song but notice I chose the live Wings Over America version to differentiate from the studio version on Pure McCartney. I like both versions. On With a Little Luck, I wanted to include the better version (in my opinion) on a new Compilation. I like the full version so much better and was surprised to see the edited version on "Pure". Notice I didn't include Too Many People and 1985 on my "made up" Compilation. Both are terrific songs but already on "Pure". Not Such a Bad Boy is interesting. I wanted to include at least one "non-Beatle" song from Broad Street other than "No More Lonely Nights" which is on "Pure". I like "No Values" a little better than "Not Such a Bad Boy". The former sounds a little in the style of the Stones and I remember liking it a lot when I originally bought Broad Street. It's a little more rock than Pop to me when comparing the 2 songs but I certainly wouldn't object if Paul did "Bad Boy" on a future non-hits type of Compilation like I'm proposing. Both songs are totally unknown or forgotten by most music lovers (all ages) and are exactly the kind of songs to put in compilation filled with "underrated" songs. The other songs you listed are all gems. Since Paul didn't include any Flowers in the Dirt songs on "Pure" I could include any of the Flowers' songs (didn't want to include more than 4 so take your pick). I included your other songs. How many people know "Dragon Fly" or Footprints...2 great unknowns in my opinion. They are precisely the type of songs needed on some kind of a future Comprehensive Anthology/Compilation from Paul. As I said, I hope the execs from Capitol read this and other posts about a future more complete and balanced Set than Pure. I notice you're from Massachusetts. My Daughter lives in Winchester, right outside of Boston. When she finished her Schooling (Villanova and Drexel in the Philadelphia area) she landed her first job Civil Engineering job close to Boston. She eventually met her husband who is from the area. They took us to Boston last August and it was great. Then they met us at Acadia National Park and Bar Harbor over the Labor Day period. Loved Maine.
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B J Conlee:
I notice you're from Massachusetts. My Daughter lives in Winchester, right outside of Boston. When she finished her Schooling (Villanova and Drexel in the Philadelphia area) she landed her first job Civil Engineering job close to Boston. She eventually met her husband who is from the area. They took us to Boston last August and it was great. Then they met us at Acadia National Park and Bar Harbor over the Labor Day period. Loved Maine.
Funny enough, while I never heard of Zephyhills, I looked it up and noticed it was not far from Tampa...I lived there for a few years way back when my dad was in the Airforce and stationed at MacDill AFB. Nowadays, my mom lives a little south of there, in Sarasota...thus I get down there fairly often I'm not that close to Winchester anymore (I now live in Framingham) - but I used to live in the neighboring town of Arlington. Btw, I fully agree with your comment on With a Little Luck and in fact, have complained about that here on this site many times throughout the years. It got the full treatment on one compilation set (Wings Greatest) and has been dissected down to that 'DJ edit' on all subsequent inclusions (All the Best, Wingspan and now Pure McCartney)...have to admit I never heard it referred to as the 'DJ edit' until the release of Wingspans...until then, I've always known it as the short, bad version...LOL. I think I've instinctively presumed it was the 'single' version, often forgetting that my 45 speed vinyl single included the full 5:45 version
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B J Conlee:
Continuation from earlier post Since we are still in the current decade (2010 to 2019) I will start with the 2000-2009 Decade. With a new projected album from Paul either this year or next, it will only add to possible selections for this current decade. Disc 2000 through 2009 Lonely Road (studio or Back in the US live) About You Your Loving Flame Heather Vanilla Sky Riding to Vanity Fair Promise to You Girl Friends to Go This Never Happened Before Summer of 59 (B Side) This Loving Game (B Side) Ever Present Past Vintage Clothes Mr. Bellamy House of Wax That Was Me (live from Paris) Why So Blue Sun Is Shining Dance Till We're High Disc 1990 through 1999 Hope of Deliverance (live version Paul is Live) Golden Earth Girl Lovers that Never Were C'mon People (live Paul is Live version) Somedays Young Boy Heaven on a Sunday Run Devil Run What It Is Lonesome Town No Other Baby Keep Coming Back to You (Off the Ground Complete Works) Down to the River (Complete Works CD Big Boys Bickering (Complete Works CD) Kicked Around No More (Complete Works CD) Every Night (Unplugged CD) Good Rocking Tonight (Unplugged) Disc 1980 through 1989 Tug of War (song) Take It Away The Pound is Sinking One of These Days (from McCartney 2) The Other Me Through Our Love No Values (Broad Street CD) Lindiana Stranglehold Footprints Only Love Remains Yvonne (demo) My Brave Face We Got Married Put It There (live version) Figure of 8 (live version) Back on My Feet (b side) Flying to My Home (b side) On the Wings of a Nightingale (Demo) Disc (1970 through 1979) Maybe I'm Amazed (live version from Wings Over America) Goodbye (Demo written for Mary Hopkin) The Mess (live at the Hague) Give Ireland Back to the Irish Smile Away Eat At Home Tomorrow Little Lamb Dragonfly Single Pigeon Country Dreamer (demo) When the Night Magneto and Titanium Letting Go (Live from Wings Over America) Beware My Love I'm Carrying With a Little Luck (complete album version) Mull of Kintyre (live from Toronto version) Getting Closer Spin It On Bonus Disc (1970 to 1979) Soily (Live version Wings Over America) Dear Friend (Wildlife) Some People Never Know (Wildlife album) O Woman O Why (B side) Mama's Little Girl Get On the Right Thing Helen Wheels Bluebird Love In Song Sally G (B side) Monk berry Moon Delight London Town Girlschool (B side) Waterspout (demo) Winter Rose/Love Awake Daytime Night Time Suffering (B side) I'll Give You a Ring (B side) Old Siam Girl So Glad to See You Here I'm sure there are a few tracks that might be more deserving or that I've might have missed an important track or two but that is not what is important here. What is really important that a Compilation like the one above would be so much better than Pure McCartney. I think many people (not hard core Macca nuts like us) would be surprised to hear how many good songs Paul has written and that he is not anything close to the Ebony and Ivory Paul that some might suspect. There really is a "rocking" Paul if you hear a lot of his stuff. Lots of variety here and the most important thing is that it doesn't have the glaring gaps of Pure McCartney.
____________________________________________________________ I did just a few changes to the original McCartney By the Decade Set to cut some duplications from Pure McCartney. With these changes, I now have close to 100 tracks (with the 5 CD's) and there are maybe only 3 duplications from Pure McCartney 67 track/4 CD Format. They would include Maybe I'm Amazed, With a Little Luck and Mull of Kintyre. With all 3 tracks they are completely different versions. MIA and Mull are live versions and "With a Little Luck" is the complete studio version which I think is better than the "chopped up one" on Pure McCartney. I did this exercise to just prove how prolific Paul's career has been. And I think this Compilation is just as good (or even better) for the true fans than "Pure". As I go through the list, I'm amazed at the quality of the songs considering how many. Besides being songs that I personally love, there are no clunkers here. I'm basing this not only on my opinion, but the opinions of what I've read on this Site and others. The list includes many of the strongest (but non hits) album cuts. The B-Sides and unreleased songs in my opinion are also high quality songs. You wonder why they weren't not on original albums. And just imagine, I didn't touch songs from the current decade because it is not over yet. Keep them coming Paul and I hope a truly comprehensive, balances Compilation sees the light of day at some point. PS I realize there are still a few songs that deserved to be on a Set like this. He has so many.
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B J Conlee:
Continuation from earlier post Since we are still in the current decade (2010 to 2019) I will start with the 2000-2009 Decade. With a new projected album from Paul either this year or next, it will only add to possible selections for this current decade. Disc 2000 through 2009 Lonely Road (studio or Back in the US live) About You Your Loving Flame Heather Vanilla Sky Riding to Vanity Fair Promise to You Girl Friends to Go Jenny Wren (Live from Abbey Road) This Loving Game (B Side) Ever Present Past Vintage Clothes Mr. Bellamy House of Wax That Was Me (live from Paris) Why So Blue Sing the Changes (live version) Sun Is Shining Dance Till We're High Disc 1990 through 1999 Hope of Deliverance (live version Paul is Live) Golden Earth Girl Lovers that Never Were C'mob People (live Paul is Live version) Somedays Young Boy Heaven on a Sunday Calico Skies (Live Version) Run Devil Run What It Is Lonesome Town No Other Baby Keep Coming Back to You (Off the Ground Complete Works) Down to the River (Complete Works CD) Kicked Around No More (Complete Works CD) Every Night (Unplugged CD) Good Rocking Tonight (Unplugged) Disc 1980 through 1989 Tug of War (song) Take It Away Wanderlust ((Broad Street CD0 One of These Days (from McCartney 2) The Other Me Through Our Love No Values (Broad Street CD) Lindiana Stranglehold Footprints Only Love Remains Yvonne (demo) My Brave Face We Got Married Put It There (live version) Figure of 8 (live version0 Back on My Feet (b side Flying to My Home (b side) On the Wings of a Nightingale (Demo) Disc (1970 through 1979) Maybe I'm Amazed (live version from Wings Over America) Goodbye (Demo written for Mary Hopkin) The Mess (live at the Hague) Give Ireland Back to the Irish Smile Away Eat At Home Tomorrow Little Lamb Dragonfly Single Pigeon Country Dreamer (demo) Let Me Roll It (Live from Wings Over America) Magneto and Titanium Letting Go (Live from Wings Over America) Beware My Love I'm Carrying With a Little Luck (complete album version) Mull of Kintyre (live from Toronto version) Getting Closer Spin It On Bonus Disc (1970 to 1979) Soily (Live version Wings Over America) Dear Friend (Wildlife) Some People Never Know (Wildlife album) O Woman O Why (B side) Mama's Little Girl Get On the Right Thing Helen Wheels Bluebird Love In Song Sally G (B side) My Love (live from Wings Over America) London Town Girlschool (B side) Waterspout (demo) Winter Rose/Love Awake Daytime Night Time Suffering (B side) I'll Give You a Ring (B side) Old Siam Girl So Glad to See You Here I'm sure there are a few tracks that might be more deserving or that I've might have missed an important track or two but that is not what is important here. What is really important that a Compilation like the one above would be so much better than Pure McCartney. I think many people (not hard core Macca nuts like us) would be surprised to hear how many good songs Paul has written and that he is not anything close to the Ebony and Ivory Paul that some might suspect. There really is a "rocking" Paul if you hear a lot of his stuff. Lots of variety here and the most important thing is that it doesn't have the glaring gaps of Pure McCartney.
2000-2009 Love your choices and I would add one of my favorites B sides, "Summer of 59" 1990-1999 Enjoy your list, like that you include live versions. I would add "Brown Eyed Handsome Man" from Run Devil Run". 1980-1989 Can't argue with your list but I would love "Not Such A Bad Boy" from "Give My Regards To Broad Street" on this compilation. I know it was only a demo but since I love the song how about adding McCartney's song for the Everly Brothers "on The Wings Of A Nightengale". 1970-1979 Once again , great selections. How about obscure Wings song "San Ferry Anne"?
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why...? just o get a new macca cd?
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yankeefan7:
B J Conlee:
Continuation from earlier post Since we are still in the current decade (2010 to 2019) I will start with the 2000-2009 Decade. With a new projected album from Paul either this year or next, it will only add to possible selections for this current decade. Disc 2000 through 2009 Lonely Road (studio or Back in the US live) About You Your Loving Flame Heather Vanilla Sky Riding to Vanity Fair Promise to You Girl Friends to Go Jenny Wren (Live from Abbey Road) This Loving Game (B Side) Ever Present Past Vintage Clothes Mr. Bellamy House of Wax That Was Me (live from Paris) Why So Blue Sing the Changes (live version) Sun Is Shining Dance Till We're High Disc 1990 through 1999 Hope of Deliverance (live version Paul is Live) Golden Earth Girl Lovers that Never Were C'mob People (live Paul is Live version) Somedays Young Boy Heaven on a Sunday Calico Skies (Live Version) Run Devil Run What It Is Lonesome Town No Other Baby Keep Coming Back to You (Off the Ground Complete Works) Down to the River (Complete Works CD) Kicked Around No More (Complete Works CD) Every Night (Unplugged CD) Good Rocking Tonight (Unplugged) Disc 1980 through 1989 Tug of War (song) Take It Away Wanderlust ((Broad Street CD0 One of These Days (from McCartney 2) The Other Me Through Our Love No Values (Broad Street CD) Lindiana Stranglehold Footprints Only Love Remains Yvonne (demo) My Brave Face We Got Married Put It There (live version) Figure of 8 (live version0 Back on My Feet (b side Flying to My Home (b side) On the Wings of a Nightingale (Demo) Disc (1970 through 1979) Maybe I'm Amazed (live version from Wings Over America) Goodbye (Demo written for Mary Hopkin) The Mess (live at the Hague) Give Ireland Back to the Irish Smile Away Eat At Home Tomorrow Little Lamb Dragonfly Single Pigeon Country Dreamer (demo) Let Me Roll It (Live from Wings Over America) Magneto and Titanium Letting Go (Live from Wings Over America) Beware My Love I'm Carrying With a Little Luck (complete album version) Mull of Kintyre (live from Toronto version) Getting Closer Spin It On Bonus Disc (1970 to 1979) Soily (Live version Wings Over America) Dear Friend (Wildlife) Some People Never Know (Wildlife album) O Woman O Why (B side) Mama's Little Girl Get On the Right Thing Helen Wheels Bluebird Love In Song Sally G (B side) My Love (live from Wings Over America) London Town Girlschool (B side) Waterspout (demo) Winter Rose/Love Awake Daytime Night Time Suffering (B side) I'll Give You a Ring (B side) Old Siam Girl So Glad to See You Here I'm sure there are a few tracks that might be more deserving or that I've might have missed an important track or two but that is not what is important here. What is really important that a Compilation like the one above would be so much better than Pure McCartney. I think many people (not hard core Macca nuts like us) would be surprised to hear how many good songs Paul has written and that he is not anything close to the Ebony and Ivory Paul that some might suspect. There really is a "rocking" Paul if you hear a lot of his stuff. Lots of variety here and the most important thing is that it doesn't have the glaring gaps of Pure McCartney.
2000-2009 Love your choices and I would add one of my favorites B sides, "Summer of 59" 1990-1999 Enjoy your list, like that you include live versions. I would add "Brown Eyed Handsome Man" from Run Devil Run". 1980-1989 Can't argue with your list but I would love "Not Such A Bad Boy" from "Give My Regards To Broad Street" on this compilation. I know it was only a demo but since I love the song how about adding McCartney's song for the Everly Brothers "on The Wings Of A Nightengale". 1970-1979 Once again , great selections. How about obscure Wings song "San Ferry Anne"?
___________________________________________________________ Yankeefan, Thanks for your input as always. I had made several changes to my first list (actually the revised list was right above your post) I wanted to remove a few songs that are already on the 67 track (4 CD) Pure McCartney Compilation. Great minds think alike because one of my additions was your suggestion "Summer of 59" which I also really like. Another B-side during the Chaos sessions that I also like (and is on the 2000-2009 proposed Disc) is "This Loving Game". On my 1990-1999 proposed disc) I had 4 songs from Run Devil Run so I wanted to stop there. Certainly Brown Eyed Handsome Man would be a great selection. Some of my favorite McCartney covers are the ones where he makes them almost his own from the original. I love his Bluesy version of Lonesome Town which is so different than Ricky Nelson's great original. Paul does the same with Chuck Berry's Brown Eyed Handsome Man. For the 1980-1989 Disc, I did include No Values from Broad Street but you're so right...Not Such a Bad Boy could easily be a great addition. I really like both songs. And like you say, On the Wings of a Nightingale would be a great demo that is unreleased. Noticed I included another great demo "Goodbye" the hit he wrote years ago for Mary Hopkin. These are the kind of songs that true fans would love to have. In my opinion, this is the kind of compilation I would have loved to see compared to Pure McCartney. Doing it by each Decade basically assures that McCartney's entire Career would be covered and be well balanced. Even Paul's lowest albums always have 3-4 really good tracks. And all the good B-sides and unreleased songs would give the true fans songs that they don't already have. When Mr. McCartney's Solo Career is mentioned, it is often described in negative terms like mediocre, inconsistent, silly pop songs etc. etc. Unfortunately, Paul is more known for songs like Silly Love Songs, Ebony and Ivory, Let Them In, Say Say Say, Jet, My Love and of course his Beatle songs. Paul is so much more if you really look hard at his complete career after 1970. And Pure McCartney doesn't show who he is nearly as well as it could have. Since Pure McCartney is already done, my idea here is to release a compilation that really goes deep into his Discography. There is no need to duplicate the hits on Pure McCartney. But he has so many good to great unknown songs. Hopefully down the road, we will get one. A Compilation like I'm proposing could really surprise people as to how great his Solo career was.
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B J Conlee:
yankeefan7:
B J Conlee:
Continuation from earlier post Since we are still in the current decade (2010 to 2019) I will start with the 2000-2009 Decade. With a new projected album from Paul either this year or next, it will only add to possible selections for this current decade. Disc 2000 through 2009 Lonely Road (studio or Back in the US live) About You Your Loving Flame Heather Vanilla Sky Riding to Vanity Fair Promise to You Girl Friends to Go Jenny Wren (Live from Abbey Road) This Loving Game (B Side) Ever Present Past Vintage Clothes Mr. Bellamy House of Wax That Was Me (live from Paris) Why So Blue Sing the Changes (live version) Sun Is Shining Dance Till We're High Disc 1990 through 1999 Hope of Deliverance (live version Paul is Live) Golden Earth Girl Lovers that Never Were C'mob People (live Paul is Live version) Somedays Young Boy Heaven on a Sunday Calico Skies (Live Version) Run Devil Run What It Is Lonesome Town No Other Baby Keep Coming Back to You (Off the Ground Complete Works) Down to the River (Complete Works CD) Kicked Around No More (Complete Works CD) Every Night (Unplugged CD) Good Rocking Tonight (Unplugged) Disc 1980 through 1989 Tug of War (song) Take It Away Wanderlust ((Broad Street CD0 One of These Days (from McCartney 2) The Other Me Through Our Love No Values (Broad Street CD) Lindiana Stranglehold Footprints Only Love Remains Yvonne (demo) My Brave Face We Got Married Put It There (live version) Figure of 8 (live version0 Back on My Feet (b side Flying to My Home (b side) On the Wings of a Nightingale (Demo) Disc (1970 through 1979) Maybe I'm Amazed (live version from Wings Over America) Goodbye (Demo written for Mary Hopkin) The Mess (live at the Hague) Give Ireland Back to the Irish Smile Away Eat At Home Tomorrow Little Lamb Dragonfly Single Pigeon Country Dreamer (demo) Let Me Roll It (Live from Wings Over America) Magneto and Titanium Letting Go (Live from Wings Over America) Beware My Love I'm Carrying With a Little Luck (complete album version) Mull of Kintyre (live from Toronto version) Getting Closer Spin It On Bonus Disc (1970 to 1979) Soily (Live version Wings Over America) Dear Friend (Wildlife) Some People Never Know (Wildlife album) O Woman O Why (B side) Mama's Little Girl Get On the Right Thing Helen Wheels Bluebird Love In Song Sally G (B side) My Love (live from Wings Over America) London Town Girlschool (B side) Waterspout (demo) Winter Rose/Love Awake Daytime Night Time Suffering (B side) I'll Give You a Ring (B side) Old Siam Girl So Glad to See You Here I'm sure there are a few tracks that might be more deserving or that I've might have missed an important track or two but that is not what is important here. What is really important that a Compilation like the one above would be so much better than Pure McCartney. I think many people (not hard core Macca nuts like us) would be surprised to hear how many good songs Paul has written and that he is not anything close to the Ebony and Ivory Paul that some might suspect. There really is a "rocking" Paul if you hear a lot of his stuff. Lots of variety here and the most important thing is that it doesn't have the glaring gaps of Pure McCartney.
2000-2009 Love your choices and I would add one of my favorites B sides, "Summer of 59" 1990-1999 Enjoy your list, like that you include live versions. I would add "Brown Eyed Handsome Man" from Run Devil Run". 1980-1989 Can't argue with your list but I would love "Not Such A Bad Boy" from "Give My Regards To Broad Street" on this compilation. I know it was only a demo but since I love the song how about adding McCartney's song for the Everly Brothers "on The Wings Of A Nightengale". 1970-1979 Once again , great selections. How about obscure Wings song "San Ferry Anne"?
___________________________________________________________ Yankeefan, Thanks for your input as always. I had made several changes to my first list (actually the revised list was right above your post) I wanted to remove a few songs that are already on the 67 track (4 CD) Pure McCartney Compilation. Great minds think alike because one of my additions was your suggestion "Summer of 59" which I also really like. Another B-side during the Chaos sessions that I also like (and is on the 2000-2009 proposed Disc) is "This Loving Game". On my 1990-1999 proposed disc) I had 4 songs from Run Devil Run so I wanted to stop there. Certainly Brown Eyed Handsome Man would be a great selection. Some of my favorite McCartney covers are the ones where he makes them almost his own from the original. I love his Bluesy version of Lonesome Town which is so different than Ricky Nelson's great original. Paul does the same with Chuck Berry's Brown Eyed Handsome Man. For the 1980-1989 Disc, I did include No Values from Broad Street but you're so right...Not Such a Bad Boy could easily be a great addition. I really like both songs. And like you say, On the Wings of a Nightingale would be a great demo that is unreleased. Noticed I included another great demo "Goodbye" the hit he wrote years ago for Mary Hopkin. These are the kind of songs that true fans would love to have. In my opinion, this is the kind of compilation I would have loved to see compared to Pure McCartney. Doing it by each Decade basically assures that McCartney's entire Career would be covered and be well balanced. Even Paul's lowest albums always have 3-4 really good tracks. And all the good B-sides and unreleased songs would give the true fans songs that they don't already have. When Mr. McCartney's Solo Career is mentioned, it is often described in negative terms like mediocre, inconsistent, silly pop songs etc. etc. Unfortunately, Paul is more known for songs like Silly Love Songs, Ebony and Ivory, Let Them In, Say Say Say, Jet, My Love and of course his Beatle songs. Paul is so much more if you really look hard at his complete career after 1970. And Pure McCartney doesn't show who he is nearly as well as it could have. Since Pure McCartney is already done, my idea here is to release a compilation that really goes deep into his Discography. There is no need to duplicate the hits on Pure McCartney. But he has so many good to great unknown songs. Hopefully down the road, we will get one. A Compilation like I'm proposing could really surprise people as to how great his Solo career was.
BJ, I really wish somebody like you worked for Mr. McCartney and was on his team (lol). You not only love his solo music but you get the essence of his music since 1980. There is more to any artist than the hits and this type of compilation would show the varied type of music he has written over these years. While it probably not be a commercial hit, I bet the critics would love it and it might even make them see Mr. McCartney's career in a different light. Sadly, I don't think this would happen in his lifetime. "Pure McCartney" frustrated us because it seemed to be thrown together without much thought which was shown by not having one song from FITD. My goodness, this was the album that he toured behind after not performing live for 13 years.He also added a song like "Bip Bop" which IMO is cringe worthy. There have also been "Greatest Hits" albums so this is why your compilation would be a great idea for the hard core fan. You have inspired me to check my collection of Mr. McCartney's songs that you listed and my suggestions and see how many I have available. I think it would be cool to put them all together on my IPOD playlist. Once again, thanks for another interesting thread and I also hope you are recovering well.
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Who is this for? Die hard fans already have the albums. Are casual listeners going to buy a 100 song compilation?
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HaileyMcComet:
Who is this for? Die hard fans already have the albums. Are casual listeners going to buy a 100 song compilation?
Did you think the same thing about the Beatle Anthology albums? Everybody had those songs but people bought it anyway. IMO - this compilation would be cool because it has some B sides, live versions and even a couple of demos that were never officially recorded by McCartney. It may also introduce the casual fan to music that was not the hits if marketed properly. As for most of these type of records, the best thing is all these different songs are in one CD/record. Since BJ created the thread, I will yield to him regarding your question but felt I would throw my two cents into your question - lol
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yankeefan7:
Did you think the same thing about the Beatle Anthology albums? Everybody had those songs but people bought it anyway. IMO - this compilation would be cool because it has some B sides, live versions and even a couple of demos that were never officially recorded by McCartney. It may also introduce the casual fan to music that was not the hits if marketed properly. As for most of these type of records, the best thing is all these different songs are in one CD/record. Since BJ created the thread, I will yield to him regarding your question but felt I would throw my two cents into your question - lol
None of the Anthology songs are on any of the albums. Is that what this is? A compilation of alternate takes and live versions? That could be interesting, as long as they don't call it the Paul McCartney Anthology. I understand trying to attract casual fans, but if they don't like the big hits, are they going to buy the lesser known songs? Especially a large compilation of several discs.
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HaileyMcComet:
yankeefan7:
Did you think the same thing about the Beatle Anthology albums? Everybody had those songs but people bought it anyway. IMO - this compilation would be cool because it has some B sides, live versions and even a couple of demos that were never officially recorded by McCartney. It may also introduce the casual fan to music that was not the hits if marketed properly. As for most of these type of records, the best thing is all these different songs are in one CD/record. Since BJ created the thread, I will yield to him regarding your question but felt I would throw my two cents into your question - lol
None of the Anthology songs are on any of the albums. Is that what this is? A compilation of alternate takes and live versions? That could be interesting, as long as they don't call it the Paul McCartney Anthology. I understand trying to attract casual fans, but if they don't like the big hits, are they going to buy the lesser known songs? Especially a large compilation of several discs.
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HaileyMcComet:
Who is this for? Die hard fans already have the albums. Are casual listeners going to buy a 100 song compilation?
_________________________________________________________ Just to clarify... My main point in this thread was to prove how good and underrated Paul's Post Beatles' career has been. You could take a new "By Decade" compilaton of close to 100 songs (and not include the 2010 to now period because the decade is not finished) and have a set that is just as good of quality as Pure McCartney. My final example only has 3 duplicated songs from "Pure" and they are different versions. I am not saying that Paul should and/or will do a compilation like this in the near future. First of all, he has FITD coming out plus a new album later. And Pure McCartney is not that old at this point. I won't be surprised or shocked if Paul and Capitol might come out with something like this in 2020-2021 or even a little later. Then they could have a 5 Disc set including the final decade (2010 to the end of 2019). There are so many good to great songs by that point that are not on Pure McCartney or any of his other greatest hits' sets. Let's face it by the beginning of the next decade, Paul will be approaching 80. If his next album is a critical success and he is touring far less, I think there will be a demand for a more complete and deeper Compilation by that point. I wasn't much of a fan of the Beatles' Anthology Series. # 1 was ok but I liked #2 and #3 less. Personally I'm not into 3 versions of the same song starting at different points and the like. I'm more into "complete" songs albeit using the best take. Even on demo's and unreleased songs, I want complete songs. But a compilation like I'm suggesting in 4 to 5 years might be viable especially if it contains good demos, B-sides and unreleased. There is where the "true" Macca fans would be the prime audience. Not suggesting it would be a best seller but in 5 years certainly a viable project if done correctly. There is certainly no need to duplicate Pure McCartney.
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HaileyMcComet:
yankeefan7:
Did you think the same thing about the Beatle Anthology albums? Everybody had those songs but people bought it anyway. IMO - this compilation would be cool because it has some B sides, live versions and even a couple of demos that were never officially recorded by McCartney. It may also introduce the casual fan to music that was not the hits if marketed properly. As for most of these type of records, the best thing is all these different songs are in one CD/record. Since BJ created the thread, I will yield to him regarding your question but felt I would throw my two cents into your question - lol
None of the Anthology songs are on any of the albums. Is that what this is? A compilation of alternate takes and live versions? That could be interesting, as long as they don't call it the Paul McCartney Anthology. I understand trying to attract casual fans, but if they don't like the big hits, are they going to buy the lesser known songs? Especially a large compilation of several discs.
I agree with Hailey about the Anthology songs. Unless maybe you were a huge bootleg collector, you never heard those songs.Sorry but I guess I don't get it. Over 80% of those songs were Beatle songs or cover songs the Beatles did on other records. The difference is they are alternate versions due to being part of the recording process. There are a few songs that did not make the cut on a Beatle record that wound up on their solo records (All Things Must Pass, Junk, Don't Pass me By etc) but they were already released by the time Anthology came out.
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It's a matter of personal taste. I loved the Anthology CDs. It all seemed "new" to me at the time. We agree to disagree.
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The Beatles Anthology series was brilliant.... Delivered in spades. And to know they could release just as much brilliant stuff in another dozen releases of Beatles Anthologies that would be just as fascinating to the big fan..... S0 much untapped versions of recordings they could release.... I think the issue here is we would love to see the same treatment exacted on Paul's career.... Just like the Lennon Anthology.... there's a lot of interesting stuff on that.... a lot of swearing..... warts and all.... all part of the magnificence of his career, and the fact he was human..... But nobody in the McCartney camp seems intent on releasing that just yet..... heaven forbid, if he is caught swearing.... And just now, to reflect, every one of those Beatles Anthology releases were AMAZING..... The Beatles Anthology series was BRILLIANT.
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ps. When it comes to The Beatles and John and Paul.... I'd much prefer to hear alternate takes of songs rather than "new compilation albums" of songs I already have, which only succeed in compiling them in a different order! Tired of it! Give me something different!.... Bring on LET IT BE!!.... The Final Definitive Release. In High Definition!
