Which album should Paul NOT remaster?
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liverpoolbride:
When I'm 64...Paul will be 73! #9...#9....#9!!!
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illwobble:
kapoo:
I think the most pointless Paul album to remaster would be Flowers In The Dirt. that thing just seems sonically flushed out, what the hell could they do!? Off The Ground is another one. nothing there to clean up IMO. I think remasters are a crock in general. You give me the choice of taking the original master recording or whatever the latest remaster is, I'll take the original everytime.
Yeah, I mean they need to be reissued for sure, with whatever bonus tracks and stuff there is coming. Chaos needs to be reissued with all those great B-sides. But remastering those new ones? Doubtful. MAF with the volume turned back down is all is needed I suspect.
Yes, that could be the one valid reason to buy a remaster/re-issue, to acquire the bonus tracks. However I'm actually finding that I suffer buyers remorse when I buy a remastered album.. I want the original! example, today I just purchased one of my favorite albums of all time on vinyl, a 2011 re-issue/remaster of Smashing Pumpkins 1993 killer Siamese Dream. Its 180gram Vinyl, beautiful packaging, the whole thing is quite sweet. I paid $27.. and its not the price at all thats getting me, and actually I am quite happy to have that album on vinyl. But I feel like I got a knock-off of the original.. and Im telling you if I ever come across an original pressing I'm buying it. cuase a remaster just aint the original. beautiful packaging and all, I'm left feeling like somethings missing.. the same will hold true for any of Paul's reissues for me. They're knock offs, not improvements. now excuse me as I go relive my love of Corgan style guitar anthems http://www.thevinyldistrict.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/SmashingPumpkins-SiameseDream-e1322591951264.jpg
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At this day and age all cd re-releases are for the fans. I doubt very much that the fan-base grew at all by re-releasing "Band on the run." And I doubt that Pink Floyd got more fans by their recent re-releases. Their Immersion box sets are aimed at the fans. Who else would pay that much for "The Wall"? And who, other than fans, care about Roger Waters draft for the project? The deluxe book editions of Paul's albums are aimed at the fans. And I want them all to be released that way. Combining some releases would be OK with me. "Tug of War" + "Pipes of Peace" would make a great collection. "Broadstreet" by itself "Press to Play" by itself (or possibly combined with the unreleased/rumoured "Return to Pepperland" album) "Chaos" + "Memory" would also make a great combo release. "Strawberries" could be included with the deluxe edition of the "Off the ground" (like "Thrillington" was part of "Ram")
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Flowers In The Dirt needs remastering. I have the '93 remaster and it's a bit scratched up now but it's so quiet too. I'm not sure if it was as quiet as that on the original CD. Memory Almost Full needs turning down a bit. The ones I'm not going to be too fussed about are Off The Ground, Back To The Egg, Pipes Of Peace & Broadstreet.
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21st Century Paul:
MaccaBeatles:
It's hard to say because some of his more recent stuff like Memory Almost Full should be remastered so isn't so bl**dy loud that it can be heard from space!
When I think of remastering the first album that came to my mind was MAF, and it's my fav Macca album!. Also GENYC for the, yes, for the autotune. As for the rest I don't feel like any should be remastered though well, anything can be better.
Is GENYC autotuned all that much though? I've heard that it's supposedly used overly and is badly done but I'm not sure if I hear it too often. The start of Let It Be maybe. It's a pity, I'd sooner hear it as is, even if he doesn't hit every note. But if anyone has the right to use autotune...
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kapoo:
illwobble:
kapoo:
I think the most pointless Paul album to remaster would be Flowers In The Dirt. that thing just seems sonically flushed out, what the hell could they do!? Off The Ground is another one. nothing there to clean up IMO. I think remasters are a crock in general. You give me the choice of taking the original master recording or whatever the latest remaster is, I'll take the original everytime.
Yeah, I mean they need to be reissued for sure, with whatever bonus tracks and stuff there is coming. Chaos needs to be reissued with all those great B-sides. But remastering those new ones? Doubtful. MAF with the volume turned back down is all is needed I suspect.
Yes, that could be the one valid reason to buy a remaster/re-issue, to acquire the bonus tracks. However I'm actually finding that I suffer buyers remorse when I buy a remastered album.. I want the original! example, today I just purchased one of my favorite albums of all time on vinyl, a 2011 re-issue/remaster of Smashing Pumpkins 1993 killer Siamese Dream. Its 180gram Vinyl, beautiful packaging, the whole thing is quite sweet. I paid $27.. and its not the price at all thats getting me, and actually I am quite happy to have that album on vinyl. But I feel like I got a knock-off of the original.. and Im telling you if I ever come across an original pressing I'm buying it. cuase a remaster just aint the original. beautiful packaging and all, I'm left feeling like somethings missing.. the same will hold true for any of Paul's reissues for me. They're knock offs, not improvements. now excuse me as I go relive my love of Corgan style guitar anthems http://www.thevinyldistrict.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/SmashingPumpkins-SiameseDream-e1322591951264.jpg
Back when MTV used to have that show 120 Minutes, I saw a vid from their Gish album and really liked it. This was back in '91 or so. A couple of years later, they were about to be huge, and they're music just didn't do it for me anymore.
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*Perry*:
Is GENYC autotuned all that much though? I've heard that it's supposedly used overly and is badly done but I'm not sure if I hear it too often. The start of Let It Be maybe. It's a pity, I'd sooner hear it as is, even if he doesn't hit every note. But if anyone has the right to use autotune...
Feel a bit ashamed to say so, cause I have both the standard and deluxe edition......but I don't think I listened to all the way through ops: Watched the dvds a couple of times, but apparently there's no autotune on those.
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I think all the albums should be re-released, but obviously not at this pace. Once WOA and V&M are released in these special editions, I think it is safe to say that all of the McCartney/Wings albums that will sell reasonably well, and are currently interesting to the (fickle) general public(with the possible exception of London Town) will have been exhausted. After this I would want the entire collection to be released in a 'normal' fashion, for instance in batches of 8, 10, or 12. With deleted CDs from the 80s issue and 1993 collection currently fetching between £15 and £30 on eBay and Amazon, there clearly is a market for budget priced re-releases in the same format as the 1-CD or 2-CD versions that have come out.
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audi:
kapoo:
illwobble:
kapoo:
I think the most pointless Paul album to remaster would be Flowers In The Dirt. that thing just seems sonically flushed out, what the hell could they do!? Off The Ground is another one. nothing there to clean up IMO. I think remasters are a crock in general. You give me the choice of taking the original master recording or whatever the latest remaster is, I'll take the original everytime.
Yeah, I mean they need to be reissued for sure, with whatever bonus tracks and stuff there is coming. Chaos needs to be reissued with all those great B-sides. But remastering those new ones? Doubtful. MAF with the volume turned back down is all is needed I suspect.
Yes, that could be the one valid reason to buy a remaster/re-issue, to acquire the bonus tracks. However I'm actually finding that I suffer buyers remorse when I buy a remastered album.. I want the original! example, today I just purchased one of my favorite albums of all time on vinyl, a 2011 re-issue/remaster of Smashing Pumpkins 1993 killer Siamese Dream. Its 180gram Vinyl, beautiful packaging, the whole thing is quite sweet. I paid $27.. and its not the price at all thats getting me, and actually I am quite happy to have that album on vinyl. But I feel like I got a knock-off of the original.. and Im telling you if I ever come across an original pressing I'm buying it. cuase a remaster just aint the original. beautiful packaging and all, I'm left feeling like somethings missing.. the same will hold true for any of Paul's reissues for me. They're knock offs, not improvements. now excuse me as I go relive my love of Corgan style guitar anthems http://www.thevinyldistrict.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/SmashingPumpkins-SiameseDream-e1322591951264.jpg
Back when MTV used to have that show 120 Minutes, I saw a vid from their Gish album and really liked it. This was back in '91 or so. A couple of years later, they were about to be huge, and they're music just didn't do it for me anymore.
Billy Corgan was quoted as saying that he almost viewed Gish as an instrumental album, because so much care was given to making the music perfect, and production and getting the sound where he wanted it. He said the music drives the songs more than the melodies and especially more that the lyrics. He claimed he really hadnt fully put together how to write song lyrics. I thought that was interesting and I can hear what he meant when I listen. I love Gish, and actually love the song lyrics too, but he took it up a notch on Siamese Dream. And I think Pisces Iscariot and Infinite Sadness are amazing too. As an artist, Billy has always not really cared much about the pop scene. Just so happened to fit into the pop scene when he fit in. He follows his muse much in the same way Lennon did. Gish was one of those albums that could have been bigger but was completely overshadowed by Nevermind released a couple months after. But Corgan is a studio nut! He'd work 3 days on a 45 second bit of music, to get it exactly right. Genius in my book, his playing and his musical world is very much his own. I really dig their first 4 albums. Admittedly I sort of stopped listening to a lot of the harder nosed alt stuff for a while around 1999, so didn't give much of his later albums a chance I'm sure they deserve.
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No matter what other people may think or mean.... I want all of those albums to be released as book editions!!!!! These types of releases are not aimed at the masses, they are aimed at the fans. Nobody else gives a d*mn about a book of sheep or Pink Floyd's marbles or scarfs or whatever else are put into these deluxe/immersion/ultimate/whatever releases. They are made for the fans and as long as the quality and the standards for each release is at the level it started out as - I'm in! 40-50 Euros would be an OK price. (for a 3cd 1 dvd edition)
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little-lamb-dragonfly:
No matter what other people may think or mean.... I want all of those albums to be released as book editions!!!!! These types of releases are not aimed at the masses, they are aimed at the fans. Nobody else gives a d*mn about a book of sheep or Pink Floyd's marbles or scarfs or whatever else are put into these deluxe/immersion/ultimate/whatever releases. They are made for the fans and as long as the quality and the standards for each release is at the level it started out as - I'm in! 40-50 Euros would be an OK price. (for a 3cd 1 dvd edition)
I agree with you. I would personally love deluxe versions of PtP, FiTD and OtG especially as I 'grew up' with these albums. But WHEN???? and if no concrete release plans/dates let's have them out as 2-CD card sleeve versions at least!
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Apollo C. Vermouth:
moptops:
Pipes Of Peace. Send whatever existing copies remain straight to the tip. Landfill garbage.
OK it's not Macca's best but not that bad. Some really good stuff but also a bit of filler. Everything should be remastered except maybe from Driving Rain onward as I don't think they need it.
javascript:emoticon('') If Paul or Hear Music or Concord wanted to add a bonus disc of outtakes and b-sides to "Pipes of Peace" for a "Special Edition" release (which wouldn't sell very well, because it's not that good of an album) they could just dump the tracks on a second disc for a "Tug of War" Special Edition or a Deluxe Book Edition, why bother doing a special "Pipes of Peace" release? At least it's on CD and tracks like "Say Say Say" and "Ode to a Koala Bear" were originally recorded during the "Tug of War" sessions and you can put "Twice in a Lifetime" on a "GMRTBS" special edition. Oh and for "Press to Play", they should just remaster/ release an alternate version of the album (like the bootlegged early version of the album) with the original Non-Album Session Tracks on a second disc. Again, the released album wasn't really good and probably wouldn't do well in CD sales now, but I'd rather have an alternate/"better" version and for the fans. So I don't care and would recommend to Hear Music/Concord that they just remaster "Pipes of Peace" and "Press to Play" (w/o bonus material) when the albums that more people like get remastered and re-released first or just "don't bother". Again, despite chart information that the Archive Collection edition of "McCartney II" was doing well in the UK, I wonder if doing a Deluxe Book to an "OK" album slowed the schedule for the new re-releases and would wish MPL/Hear Music to release the better albums again.
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To me I don't think any of his live albums should be remastered. I mean I know Wings Over America is next and im looking forward to it, because Its been out of print for a long time on CD. I know its on iTunes but everyone can't access it. But do we really need Tripping, Paul Is Live, Unplugged, Back in the US, and Good Evening NYC remasters? I mean if they have bonus material than maybe i'll consider it. I know some people have said his recent albums shouldn't be remastered and I agree. But if he does re-release them than he should add the bonus material especially Chaos it has a tone of B-sides/singles/bonus tracks, and I personally would love to have those, I don't think I can find any of the CD singles, I'll be happy if he does include these on a Chaos re-release.
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Flowers in the Dirt sounds good as it is, no need to remaster that one. Or Press to Play, that sounds pretty good too. Most of his albums that came out on the CD format sound pretty good.
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MaccaBeatles:
It's hard to say because some of his more recent stuff like Memory Almost Full should be remastered so isn't so bl**dy loud that it can be heard from space!
I thought that was just my hearing!!!!! Thank God someone else thinks like I do!
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Tug Of War sounds awesome, to this daaay
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In answer to the original question........ He remastered McCartney II which I didnot even bother buying as the first time it was released was bad enough for me.........but I cant wait for WOA, Back to the Egg and London Town....well just anything "Wings" really
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sarah1471:
but I cant wait for WOA, Back to the Egg and London Town....well just anything "Wings" really
with the full deluxe book treatment