Jimmy McCulloch Appreciation Thread
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A little over a year ago, I mixed a fantasy live-version of "Wino Junko." Not my best work, but it gives an idea of what it might've sounded like in concert on the '76 Wings tour:
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Rockerdude:
JimmyMcCullochFan:
Just a thread to appreciate wee Jimmy's incredible musical ability and for all his contributions to Paul's music. Absolutely no negative talk in regards to drugs or his passing please. Focus on the positive aspects
You're really smitten over this guy; but what woman wouldn't like long hair on a rock star in the 70's. Too bad Jim's career & resume were very short. Watching "Rock Show" you really notice how emaciated he was. What's sad is that the other members of Wings watched him deteriorate & didn't help him.
I'm not a woman
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RMartinez:
We have to remember, in the early to mid 1970s, there was no Beatles nostalgia. And musicians like Henry McCullough, Denny Seiwell, Joe English, and Jimmy McCulloch were not fans of McCartney, rather they were working musicians. It is clear they wanted to have artistic input and make money and have careers. Henry and Denny, it seems, left because they were not making the money they were promised. Joe and Jimmy ended up leaving too, shortly after a hugely successful world tour. Why? Whatever Jimmy's personal demons, history has shown that there is little outsiders can do to help. A sad end to a brilliant guitar player.
Here is what a source who spent time with Wings on the 1976 American tour told me in regards to Jimmy. "As a musician, brilliant and dedicated, Jimmy excelled or Paul would've never had him in Wings. But he was frustrated and often expressed that feeling over the complete musical control that Paul had in the band. Hear him 'live', playing his own composition Medicine Jar and that gives you an idea of how he could rock given his own head."
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audi:
A little over a year ago, I mixed a fantasy live-version of "Wino Junko." Not my best work, but it gives an idea of what it might've sounded like in concert on the '76 Wings tour:
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Rockerdude:
JimmyMcCullochFan:
Just a thread to appreciate wee Jimmy's incredible musical ability and for all his contributions to Paul's music. Absolutely no negative talk in regards to drugs or his passing please. Focus on the positive aspects
You're really smitten over this guy; but what woman wouldn't like long hair on a rock star in the 70's. Too bad Jim's career & resume were very short. Watching "Rock Show" you really notice how emaciated he was. What's sad is that the other members of Wings watched him deteriorate & didn't help him.
Paul and Linda did try to intervene and help him out.
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Think I've read that Jmmy rang McCartney up in the middle of the night, he was sitting with Steve Marriott of The Small Faces or something, and he just said; I quit, and McCartney said; Good luck Jimmy, see you... I don't know if this is true, I can only quote things I've read, because I was not there. But look at his musical output after Wings and it's obvious that little materialized. For my own thought; I think he should have formed a band of likeminded musicians and made it big. He was a huge guitar talent and the days of the guitar hero was not yet numbered, although punk and disco ruled the late 70s, but hair metal and Van Halen in the 80's... he could have been huge.
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I listened to some of the Dukes LP, Jimmy played on it before he died. It sounds like disco to me! Strange he would leave a band that played Letting Go, Beware My Love, Junior's Farm, etc. so he could "rock" more, then play in a disco band.
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Didn't several of the Wings musicians release solo albums after they quit? Maybe they thought they were bigger stars than they really were? You play the arenas and sell millions of records... with Paul McCartney. Therefore all know who I am .. or maybe not. I think musicians playing with McCartney now is more conscious of this, that it doesn't automatically make you a superstar and million selling solo career, beacuse you played the stadiums with Paul McCartney. They don't quit the band to release a solo album.
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Hendrix Ibsen:
Didn't several of the Wings musicians release solo albums after they quit? Maybe they thought they were bigger stars than they really were? You play the arenas and sell millions of records... with Paul McCartney. I think musicians playing with McCartney now is more conscious of this, that it doesn't automatically make you a superstar and million selling solo career, beacuse you played the stadiums with Paul McCartney.
Again, musicians who played with McCartney were not people who had nothing else going on in their lives just waiting to play for Paul. Denny Laine was in the Moody Blues and was a working musician when he joined Wings. Henry, Denny (drummer), Jimmy, and Joe were all working musicians. To leave Paul's band did not mean they were going to retire. Of course they recorded LPs and tried to have careers after. I don't think it has anything to do with them thinking they were huge stars, rather they were doing what they trained their whole lives to do. What were they going to do, be bankers or teachers?
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I read an interview with Denny Seiwell not so long ago, he released a jazz record on his own label in 2011 or a year close, with a couple of Wings covers. He said that McCartney shouldn't have played with musicians like him, he should have played with Phil Collins and those types of musicians. I thought that was very/too humble, this guy played drums on the one and only "Ram", I think he has a brilliant drum sound.
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Hendrix Ibsen:
I read an interview with Denny Seiwell not so long ago, he released a jazz record on his own label in 2011 or a year close, with a couple of Wings covers. He said that McCartney shouldn't have played with musicians like him, he should have played with Phil Collins and those types of musicians. I thought that was very/too humble, this guy played drums on the one and only "Ram", I think he has a brilliant drum sound.
Perhaps, but Phil Collins in the mid 70s was on a path to a brilliant career where he would become a multi-millionaire and world famous. He would not have needed to play with Paul for union wage!
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I find it strange that he is so cheap with money, he is so generous with his music. Weren't the rights to stuff tied up in something? Because he went his own way instead of with the other three after The Beatles. Think I've read that the Linda McCartney songwriting credits early on partly was because thay actually needed the money. Whatever Paul earned it ended up being frozen, he couldn't get to it.
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Hendrix Ibsen:
I find it strange that he is so cheap with money, he is so generous with his music. Weren't the rights to stuff tied up in something? Because he went his own way instead of with the other three after The Beatles. Think I've read that the Linda McCartney songwriting credits early on partly was because thay actually needed the money. Whatever Paul earned it ended up being frozen, he couldn't get to it.
I think you are right, but I don't recall the details. I think Henry and Denny were promised more money later, and it never materialized.
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But don't they recieve royalties from the recordings they did? "My Love" is huge and Henry McCullough kind of "wrote" the famous solo. but again... people always argue about money, no one will ever have enough, it's why I concentrate on the music. Talking about Paul McCartney with people it's almost impossible not to cross over to talk about how rich he is, how much money he made on his music instead of how much great music he made. I think it trivialize his talent, makes his songs look like just another sellable disposable product with no articstic merit. But for me, I'm interested in music, I admire his composition, not business.
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Hendrix Ibsen:
But don't they recieve royalties from the recordings they did? "My Love" is huge and Henry McCullough kind of "wrote" the famous solo. but again... people always argue about money, no one will ever have enough, it's why I concentrate on the music. Talking about Paul McCartney with people it's almost impossible not to cross over to talk about how rich he is, how much money he made on his music instead of how much great music he made. I think it trivialize his talent, makes his songs look like just another sellable disposable product with no articstic merit. But for me, I'm interested in music, I admire his composition, not business.
Unless they are listed as songwriters, they receive no royalties. I would be shocked if Denny Laine does not get royalties for Mull of Kintyre. He co wrote it.
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Denny Laine can't be poor, at least, he's hardly been busy with music since Wings. He may not always be on vacation but he is not so visible on the music scene either, compared to the 70s when he was a pop star.
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RMartinez:
I would be shocked if Denny Laine does not get royalties for Mull of Kintyre. He co wrote it.
Prepare yourself to be shocked as Denny sold his publishing rights for the song to Paul many years ago. Even back in 2001 when 'Wingspan' was released, the publishing for 'Mull Of KIntyre' was credited solely to MPL Communications Ltd.
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Kestrel:
RMartinez:
I would be shocked if Denny Laine does not get royalties for Mull of Kintyre. He co wrote it.
Prepare yourself to be shocked as Denny sold his publishing rights for the song to Paul many years ago. Even back in 2001 when 'Wingspan' was released, the publishing for 'Mull Of KIntyre' was credited solely to MPL Communications Ltd.
Wow. WOW!
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RMartinez:
Wow. WOW!
Is that your best Kate Bush impression? You missed out 'unbelievable'.
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RMartinez:
Kestrel:
RMartinez:
I would be shocked if Denny Laine does not get royalties for Mull of Kintyre. He co wrote it.
Prepare yourself to be shocked as Denny sold his publishing rights for the song to Paul many years ago. Even back in 2001 when 'Wingspan' was released, the publishing for 'Mull Of KIntyre' was credited solely to MPL Communications Ltd.
Wow. WOW!
Amazing how desperation can make a man make such a huge business blunder.