Is Poverty eradicated yet?
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Is Poverty eradicated yet? Was Live8 an unrealistic idea, an idea that could never work? Or did it serve it's purpose in creating awareness? Your ideas?
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Things don't just happen overnight and I think this world is too selfish to ever totally eradicate it either.
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sethnfx:
Is Poverty eradicated yet? Was Live8 an unrealistic idea, an idea that could never work? Or did it serve it's purpose in creating awareness? Your ideas?
It served it's purpose. Quite recently the World Bank and the IMF agreed to wipe out billions of dollars of debt owed by Third World countries. I believe the efforts of Make Povery History and the Live8 concerts were instrumental in gathering public opinion in favour of this cause and making people demand that something happen. Poverty is not history - but they've made a very good start.
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glass_0ni0n:
Things don't just happen overnight and I think this world is too selfish to ever totally eradicate it either.
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The IMF have a policy of not giving money to poor countrys that have state owned industries. I heard one of the IMF workers talking about this on the radio the other day and they seemed quiet matter of fact about this - as though its the right way to go they're even involved in privatising/selling off state owned industrys in these countrys - no mention of the number of jobs lost in such actions and the resultant poverty for those people. Thier actions are counter productive and highly politicised - I don't see poverty being eradicated. We build wells when we should be building bloody great resevoirs with running water. Status Quo may not have been on the Live8 line up but the Status Quo prevails.
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We should do it more often... Instead of barring our head in the sand...!!!Wha we tant to do to often!!!
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I did the thing on Paul's board to send a message to Tony Blair. I don't thing poverty can ever truly be eradicated, but every little bit helps.
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The Live 8 performers received $12,000 gift bags....something wrong with that picture?
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Tripping:
The Live 8 performers received $12,000 gift bags....something wrong with that picture?
instead of giving them those gift bags they should've donated the money towards charities, there is something wrong with that picture
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poverty is at least something we are all more aware of. 12000 gift bags seem like alot but it is in the scheme of things, perhaps it isnt that much all together, were these bags donated, the artists dontated their times and who is to know what they did with the gift bags. perhaps they will all be auctioned off on the anniversary of the concert we may never know, and we certainly do not know all of the facts to condemn these usually extremely high paid artists that donated their time for this worthwhile event audrey
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thank you audrey. Donation is key here. If sponsors did that, it has nothing to do with the spirit the artist entended.
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DennyC:
thank you audrey. Donation is key here. If sponsors did that, it has nothing to do with the spirit the artist entended.
Well maybe someone should have stepped up to the plate and saw the hypocrisy of it and asked instead of goody bags for rich people, donations of vaccinations, etc., be done for the people in need instead.
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Tripping:
DennyC:
thank you audrey. Donation is key here. If sponsors did that, it has nothing to do with the spirit the artist entended.
Well maybe someone should have stepped up to the plate and saw the hypocrisy of it and asked instead of goody bags for rich people, donations of vaccinations, etc., be done for the people in need instead.
And this effects you personally, how? They donated their time, so what if they got goody bags? They might have given their goody bags to charities or something else. I don't think it's our business what they did with them. They donated their time and they could have asked to be paid for the concerts.
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BlueMolly2002:
Tripping:
DennyC:
thank you audrey. Donation is key here. If sponsors did that, it has nothing to do with the spirit the artist entended.
Well maybe someone should have stepped up to the plate and saw the hypocrisy of it and asked instead of goody bags for rich people, donations of vaccinations, etc., be done for the people in need instead.
And this effects you personally, how? They donated their time, so what if they got goody bags? They might have given their goody bags to charities or something else. I don't think it's our business what they did with them. They donated their time and they could have asked to be paid for the concerts.
They could have asked to have been paid? Every performer up there got their pay in gold by the exposure they got. It is my opinion that it is a huge hypocrisy to stand up there and sing for the world to help the poor and the starving and walk out the back door with $12,000 worth of goodies. And if people can't see the hypocrisy in that...it just proves what a joke these things are and they are put on more so people can stroke their own backs that they are doing something....and then get in the limo to see what fun stuff $12,000 got them for showing up.
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thank you Molly, yes what the performers receive has no bearing on us.
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Tripping:
BlueMolly2002:
Tripping:
DennyC:
thank you audrey. Donation is key here. If sponsors did that, it has nothing to do with the spirit the artist entended.
Well maybe someone should have stepped up to the plate and saw the hypocrisy of it and asked instead of goody bags for rich people, donations of vaccinations, etc., be done for the people in need instead.
And this effects you personally, how? They donated their time, so what if they got goody bags? They might have given their goody bags to charities or something else. I don't think it's our business what they did with them. They donated their time and they could have asked to be paid for the concerts.
They could have asked to have been paid? Every performer up there got their pay in gold by the exposure they got. It is my opinion that it is a huge hypocrisy to stand up there and sing for the world to help the poor and the starving and walk out the back door with $12,000 worth of goodies. And if people can't see the hypocrisy in that...it just proves what a joke these things are and they are put on more so people can stroke their own backs that they are doing something....and then get in the limo to see what fun stuff $12,000 got them for showing up.
IMHO, I think it was a good idea for them to get goodies because it's telling them "thank you for donating your time and money". If I did that I'd be happy to have something of appreciation for donating my time and money. I just don't freaking see the big deal of it. Almost anytime I've donated my time I have gotten small gifts of appreciation (mainly food). I guess the next time I volunteer I'll decline and say, "No thanks, I don't need the appreciation.". That doesn't sound right to me for some reason. It seems so rude and cold hearted to decline a thank you gift.
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Molly, agreed.
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I know what I said sounded very materialistic, but that's how I feel. I know Tripping will probably say "So a $12,000 goodie bag is a thank you gift? If they gave me that I'd decline it because the Live 8 concert is supposed to be FREE and noone should be thanked for donating their time."
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It's really not a big deal, and as it was said, we don't know who accepted it, donated it, refused it, etc, etc. It says corporations donated their time as well and they want a little pr from it. That may be be the main motive behind it as well, but personally, in the end, they all did something "charitable". I say good, because some people and corporations give absolutely nothing back. Why not have a go at them. It's easy to condemn those who are upfront about what they do.
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DennyC:
It's really not a big deal, and as it was said, we don't know who accepted it, donated it, refused it, etc, etc. It says corporations donated their time as well and they want a little pr from it. That may be be the main motive behind it as well, but personally, in the end, they all did something "charitable". I say good, because some people and corporations give absolutely nothing back. Why not have a go at them. It's easy to condemn those who are upfront about what they do.
If anyone refused it, believe me, they would have made a headline out of it...
