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    • sethnfx
      sethnfx last edited by

      Is Poverty eradicated yet? Was Live8 an unrealistic idea, an idea that could never work? Or did it serve it's purpose in creating awareness? Your ideas?

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        glass_0ni0n last edited by

        Things don't just happen overnight and I think this world is too selfish to ever totally eradicate it either.

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          JeffLynnesBeard last edited by

          sethnfx:

          Is Poverty eradicated yet? Was Live8 an unrealistic idea, an idea that could never work? Or did it serve it's purpose in creating awareness? Your ideas?

          It served it's purpose. Quite recently the World Bank and the IMF agreed to wipe out billions of dollars of debt owed by Third World countries. I believe the efforts of Make Povery History and the Live8 concerts were instrumental in gathering public opinion in favour of this cause and making people demand that something happen. Poverty is not history - but they've made a very good start.

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            BeatlesMusicG@l last edited by

            glass_0ni0n:

            Things don't just happen overnight and I think this world is too selfish to ever totally eradicate it either.

            "Love is all you need." --The Beatles

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            Caterva carissima mea est Cimictus!

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              admin last edited by

              The IMF have a policy of not giving money to poor countrys that have state owned industries. I heard one of the IMF workers talking about this on the radio the other day and they seemed quiet matter of fact about this - as though its the right way to go they're even involved in privatising/selling off state owned industrys in these countrys - no mention of the number of jobs lost in such actions and the resultant poverty for those people. Thier actions are counter productive and highly politicised - I don't see poverty being eradicated. We build wells when we should be building bloody great resevoirs with running water. Status Quo may not have been on the Live8 line up but the Status Quo prevails.

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                Bee-ny last edited by

                We should do it more often... Instead of barring our head in the sand...!!!Wha we tant to do to often!!!

                Jamie
                You may say Im a dreamer,but Im not the only one,I hope some day you'll join us,And the world will live as one.

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                  admin last edited by

                  I did the thing on Paul's board to send a message to Tony Blair. I don't thing poverty can ever truly be eradicated, but every little bit helps.

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                    admin last edited by

                    The Live 8 performers received $12,000 gift bags....something wrong with that picture?

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                      admin last edited by

                      Tripping:

                      The Live 8 performers received $12,000 gift bags....something wrong with that picture?

                      instead of giving them those gift bags they should've donated the money towards charities, there is something wrong with that picture

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                        audrey last edited by

                        poverty is at least something we are all more aware of. 12000 gift bags seem like alot but it is in the scheme of things, perhaps it isnt that much all together, were these bags donated, the artists dontated their times and who is to know what they did with the gift bags. perhaps they will all be auctioned off on the anniversary of the concert we may never know, and we certainly do not know all of the facts to condemn these usually extremely high paid artists that donated their time for this worthwhile event audrey

                        Love Paul Forever
                        a pretty nurse is selling poppies from a tray

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                          DennyC last edited by

                          thank you audrey. Donation is key here. If sponsors did that, it has nothing to do with the spirit the artist entended.

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                            admin last edited by

                            DennyC:

                            thank you audrey. Donation is key here. If sponsors did that, it has nothing to do with the spirit the artist entended.

                            Well maybe someone should have stepped up to the plate and saw the hypocrisy of it and asked instead of goody bags for rich people, donations of vaccinations, etc., be done for the people in need instead.

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                              BlueMolly2002 last edited by

                              Tripping:

                              DennyC:

                              thank you audrey. Donation is key here. If sponsors did that, it has nothing to do with the spirit the artist entended.

                              Well maybe someone should have stepped up to the plate and saw the hypocrisy of it and asked instead of goody bags for rich people, donations of vaccinations, etc., be done for the people in need instead.

                              And this effects you personally, how? They donated their time, so what if they got goody bags? They might have given their goody bags to charities or something else. I don't think it's our business what they did with them. They donated their time and they could have asked to be paid for the concerts.

                              Molly

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                                admin last edited by

                                BlueMolly2002:

                                Tripping:

                                DennyC:

                                thank you audrey. Donation is key here. If sponsors did that, it has nothing to do with the spirit the artist entended.

                                Well maybe someone should have stepped up to the plate and saw the hypocrisy of it and asked instead of goody bags for rich people, donations of vaccinations, etc., be done for the people in need instead.

                                And this effects you personally, how? They donated their time, so what if they got goody bags? They might have given their goody bags to charities or something else. I don't think it's our business what they did with them. They donated their time and they could have asked to be paid for the concerts.

                                They could have asked to have been paid? Every performer up there got their pay in gold by the exposure they got. It is my opinion that it is a huge hypocrisy to stand up there and sing for the world to help the poor and the starving and walk out the back door with $12,000 worth of goodies. And if people can't see the hypocrisy in that...it just proves what a joke these things are and they are put on more so people can stroke their own backs that they are doing something....and then get in the limo to see what fun stuff $12,000 got them for showing up.

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                                  DennyC last edited by

                                  thank you Molly, yes what the performers receive has no bearing on us.

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                                  • BlueMolly2002
                                    BlueMolly2002 last edited by

                                    Tripping:

                                    BlueMolly2002:

                                    Tripping:

                                    DennyC:

                                    thank you audrey. Donation is key here. If sponsors did that, it has nothing to do with the spirit the artist entended.

                                    Well maybe someone should have stepped up to the plate and saw the hypocrisy of it and asked instead of goody bags for rich people, donations of vaccinations, etc., be done for the people in need instead.

                                    And this effects you personally, how? They donated their time, so what if they got goody bags? They might have given their goody bags to charities or something else. I don't think it's our business what they did with them. They donated their time and they could have asked to be paid for the concerts.

                                    They could have asked to have been paid? Every performer up there got their pay in gold by the exposure they got. It is my opinion that it is a huge hypocrisy to stand up there and sing for the world to help the poor and the starving and walk out the back door with $12,000 worth of goodies. And if people can't see the hypocrisy in that...it just proves what a joke these things are and they are put on more so people can stroke their own backs that they are doing something....and then get in the limo to see what fun stuff $12,000 got them for showing up.

                                    IMHO, I think it was a good idea for them to get goodies because it's telling them "thank you for donating your time and money". If I did that I'd be happy to have something of appreciation for donating my time and money. I just don't freaking see the big deal of it. Almost anytime I've donated my time I have gotten small gifts of appreciation (mainly food). I guess the next time I volunteer I'll decline and say, "No thanks, I don't need the appreciation.". That doesn't sound right to me for some reason. It seems so rude and cold hearted to decline a thank you gift.

                                    Molly

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                                      DennyC last edited by

                                      Molly, agreed.

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                                      • BlueMolly2002
                                        BlueMolly2002 last edited by

                                        I know what I said sounded very materialistic, but that's how I feel. I know Tripping will probably say "So a $12,000 goodie bag is a thank you gift? If they gave me that I'd decline it because the Live 8 concert is supposed to be FREE and noone should be thanked for donating their time."

                                        Molly

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                                          DennyC last edited by

                                          It's really not a big deal, and as it was said, we don't know who accepted it, donated it, refused it, etc, etc. It says corporations donated their time as well and they want a little pr from it. That may be be the main motive behind it as well, but personally, in the end, they all did something "charitable". I say good, because some people and corporations give absolutely nothing back. Why not have a go at them. It's easy to condemn those who are upfront about what they do.

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                                            admin last edited by

                                            DennyC:

                                            It's really not a big deal, and as it was said, we don't know who accepted it, donated it, refused it, etc, etc. It says corporations donated their time as well and they want a little pr from it. That may be be the main motive behind it as well, but personally, in the end, they all did something "charitable". I say good, because some people and corporations give absolutely nothing back. Why not have a go at them. It's easy to condemn those who are upfront about what they do.

                                            If anyone refused it, believe me, they would have made a headline out of it...

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