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      rich n last edited by

      mustangsally10:

      rich n:

      And the Daily KOS is where all the leftist extremist - such as white supremacist groups - go to cohabitate...proven by the fact that Eli Whitney is one of their early founding 'heroes'

      What have you been smoking? Daily Kos was founded by Markos who is hispanic and we have all races part of the group. In fact diversity is our strength. Seriously richn , you are way out of reality...that's really sad

      It's not so much a race thing as much as it's a matter of ideals - if we don't agree with them, we deserve to die (just because they're technically multicultural/multigender doesn't really separate them from being like-minded with the white supremacist groups in terms of hate - they just became their own race of sorts who hates all others )

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        rich n:

        mustangsally10:

        rich n:

        And the Daily KOS is where all the leftist extremist - such as white supremacist groups - go to cohabitate...proven by the fact that Eli Whitney is one of their early founding 'heroes'

        What have you been smoking? Daily Kos was founded by Markos who is hispanic and we have all races part of the group. In fact diversity is our strength. Seriously richn , you are way out of reality...that's really sad

        It's not so much a race thing as much as it's a matter of ideals - if we don't agree with them, we deserve to die (just because they're technically multicultural/multigender doesn't really separate them from being like-minded with the white supremacist groups in terms of hate - they just became their own race of sorts who hates all others )

        You are way off base, where in the world did you hear anything about wanting people to die ...really are you hearing things too ? And your logic is also way off base too. What you say..doesn't make sense because you admit that we are all inclusive and don't like those who aren't. Well, the ones who aren't would be the white surpremacist DUH You are hanging by a thread, not uncommon for those who have been fed a bunch of lies.

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          rich n last edited by

          This guy has it right...

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            admin last edited by

            Haha , you do know that the reason much of the EU is having problems now is because they followed the US into the mortgage mess and in fact the EU countries who now have conservative govt like the UK are in more of a mess because they will not be able to work their way out with conservative policies. Whereas Germany who has more of a safety net for it's citizens is doing very well. If you don't know this you should before you start talking about it.. Yes, many in the EU followed bush into Iraq and also followed his 'economic' example I'm sure they regret that now

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              rich n last edited by

              First, Mortgage issue = Clinton screw up (although Bush did little to fix it). Second, EU does what it wants

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                http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investing/Extra/did-clinton-cause-the-banking-crisis.aspx

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                  admin last edited by

                  yes, Europe does what it wants and it followed the US into the mortgage mess and now is paying the price. The EU countries in the best financial situation are the ones with the largest government safety nets. Read about Germany you won't hear about this on Faux news http://www.alternet.org/world/149324/america_in_decline%3A_why_germans_think_we%27re_insane/ http://www.economist.com/blogs/freeexchange/2010/07/recovery_1

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                    Amongst all of the profiteering and self concerned financial survivalism going on..........Does this mean that working people will still get the rightful and functional benefits from the social and medical insurance premiums they've been paying all of these years?

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                      SurSteven:

                      Amongst all of the profiteering and self concerned financial survivalism going on..........Does this mean that working people will still get the rightful and functional benefits from the social and medical insurance premiums they've been paying all of these years?

                      No.

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                        food prices are related to egypt's unrest: http://blogs.wsj.com/dispatch/2011/02/01/the-politics-of-food-prices-in-egypt/ http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,2048885,00.html

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                          mustangsally10:

                          Great Democrat achievements in modern times: Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, health care for all poor children, repeal of DADT, reform of student loan industry to make college less expensive, women's right to choose, Health Care Reform making health care a right not a privilege etc, etc, etc. All programs taking the US into the 21th century From the republicans the legacy of the last 30 years beginning with Reagan

                          debt and stagnant wages , wealth concentrated in upper incomes to the detriment of the middle class, war ad nauseam, obstruction of remedies to climate change don't expect the republicans to absorb this . but most people of at least average intelligence know this. Democrats care about people and want to insure that ALL people live in dignity that is our ideology...not exactly mean spirited Here you go jaiper..your op out medicare form https://www.cahabagba.com/part_b/forms/OptOutAffidavit.pdf

                          have you noticed that a large number of the avhievements that you list for the democrats are now causing our great nation to FREAKING DROWN IN DEBT? nice legacy for the vote buying demogogues of the democratic party

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                            EADG:

                            mustangsally10:

                            Great Democrat achievements in modern times: Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, health care for all poor children, repeal of DADT, reform of student loan industry to make college less expensive, women's right to choose, Health Care Reform making health care a right not a privilege etc, etc, etc. All programs taking the US into the 21th century From the republicans the legacy of the last 30 years beginning with Reagan

                            debt and stagnant wages , wealth concentrated in upper incomes to the detriment of the middle class, war ad nauseam, obstruction of remedies to climate change don't expect the republicans to absorb this . but most people of at least average intelligence know this. Democrats care about people and want to insure that ALL people live in dignity that is our ideology...not exactly mean spirited Here you go jaiper..your op out medicare form https://www.cahabagba.com/part_b/forms/OptOutAffidavit.pdf

                            have you noticed that a large number of the avhievements that you list for the democrats are now causing our great nation to FREAKING DROWN IN DEBT? nice legacy for the vote buying demogogues of the democratic party

                            Haha, looks like you didn't get the memo

                            http://www.alternet.org/world/149324/america_in_decline%3A_why_germans_think_we're_insane/ http://www.economist.com/blogs/freeexchange/2010/07/recovery_1

                            It's not a strong safety net that's the problem, it's revenue. We need to cut taxes for the rich and continue to downsize our military. Obamas' budget is a great beginning. Your ideas are so 20th century...What are you republlicans trying to do?... ruin the 21th century just like you did the 20th?

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                              EADG last edited by

                              mustangsally10:

                              EADG:

                              mustangsally10:

                              Great Democrat achievements in modern times: Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, health care for all poor children, repeal of DADT, reform of student loan industry to make college less expensive, women's right to choose, Health Care Reform making health care a right not a privilege etc, etc, etc. All programs taking the US into the 21th century From the republicans the legacy of the last 30 years beginning with Reagan

                              debt and stagnant wages , wealth concentrated in upper incomes to the detriment of the middle class, war ad nauseam, obstruction of remedies to climate change don't expect the republicans to absorb this . but most people of at least average intelligence know this. Democrats care about people and want to insure that ALL people live in dignity that is our ideology...not exactly mean spirited Here you go jaiper..your op out medicare form https://www.cahabagba.com/part_b/forms/OptOutAffidavit.pdf

                              have you noticed that a large number of the avhievements that you list for the democrats are now causing our great nation to FREAKING DROWN IN DEBT? nice legacy for the vote buying demogogues of the democratic party

                              Haha, looks like you didn't get the memo

                              http://www.alternet.org/world/149324/america_in_decline%3A_why_germans_think_we're_insane/ http://www.economist.com/blogs/freeexchange/2010/07/recovery_1

                              It's not a strong safety net that's the problem, it's revenue. We need to cut taxes for the rich and continue to downsize our military. Obamas' budget is a great beginning. Your ideas are so 20th century...What are you republlicans trying to do?... ruin the 21th century just like you did the 20th?

                              that article was kind of interesting (albeit kind of out of date, considering everything that's happened in the eurozone since it was published last summer). However, do you understand that it has nothing to do with the point I was making?

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                                admin last edited by

                                EADG:

                                mustangsally10:

                                EADG:

                                mustangsally10:

                                Great Democrat achievements in modern times: Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, health care for all poor children, repeal of DADT, reform of student loan industry to make college less expensive, women's right to choose, Health Care Reform making health care a right not a privilege etc, etc, etc. All programs taking the US into the 21th century From the republicans the legacy of the last 30 years beginning with Reagan

                                debt and stagnant wages , wealth concentrated in upper incomes to the detriment of the middle class, war ad nauseam, obstruction of remedies to climate change don't expect the republicans to absorb this . but most people of at least average intelligence know this. Democrats care about people and want to insure that ALL people live in dignity that is our ideology...not exactly mean spirited Here you go jaiper..your op out medicare form https://www.cahabagba.com/part_b/forms/OptOutAffidavit.pdf

                                have you noticed that a large number of the avhievements that you list for the democrats are now causing our great nation to FREAKING DROWN IN DEBT? nice legacy for the vote buying demogogues of the democratic party

                                Haha, looks like you didn't get the memo

                                http://www.alternet.org/world/149324/america_in_decline%3A_why_germans_think_we're_insane/ http://www.economist.com/blogs/freeexchange/2010/07/recovery_1

                                It's not a strong safety net that's the problem, it's revenue. We need to cut taxes for the rich and continue to downsize our military. Obamas' budget is a great beginning. Your ideas are so 20th century...What are you republlicans trying to do?... ruin the 21th century just like you did the 20th?

                                that article was kind of interesting (albeit kind of out of date, considering everything that's happened in the eurozone since it was published last summer). However, do you understand that it has nothing to do with the point I was making?

                                perhaps you didn't know what point you were making. The democrat great achievements as mentioned above include social security, medicare, etc the safety net for the american population....the article above about Germany says that Germany the EU (Germany) have a strong safety net for their citizens that puts ours to shame. The second article talks about how Germany is surviving the financial crisis very well. Do you see the connection? Really with you republicans I feel like I'm teaching class and have to speak in one syllable words. :

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                                  SurSteven last edited by

                                  a lot of americans came from europe... other countries...and were here to begin with... we're all here together now...that's what's beautiful and

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                                    Iowa Hawk last edited by

                                    EADG:

                                    mustangsally10:

                                    Haha, looks like you didn't get the memo

                                    http://www.alternet.org/world/149324/america_in_decline%3A_why_germans_think_we're_insane/ http://www.economist.com/blogs/freeexchange/2010/07/recovery_1

                                    It's not a strong safety net that's the problem, it's revenue. We need to cut taxes for the rich and continue to downsize our military. Obamas' budget is a great beginning. Your ideas are so 20th century...What are you republlicans trying to do?... ruin the 21th century just like you did the 20th?

                                    that article was kind of interesting (albeit kind of out of date, considering everything that's happened in the eurozone since it was published last summer). However, do you understand that it has nothing to do with the point I was making?

                                    EADG, you won?t get a sincere response out of that person. The Left?s favorite tools of argument are demagoguery, intellectual dishonesty, and their favorite, sophistry. Conveniently ignoring all empirical evidence, Sally likes to cite discredited fools such as Rachael Maddow and Paul Krugman to back up her opinions. If her latest bluster had any validity (countries with the most generous ?safety nets? are the most prosperous), Cuba would be the envy of Western Civilization. Or a more local example for those in the USA, the states with the most liberal benefits should be more economically secure, but they?re not. Some are on the verge of bankruptcy. We all know who they are. Of course you are correct. Liberalism is bringing the country to its knees, possibly for keeps. Any pyramid scheme eventually will fail. This incompetent freak in the White House is compounding the problems we already had and making many more of his own. The next two years are going to be even worse than the last two.

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                                      admin last edited by

                                      Incompetent freak? Really? Really? "George W. Bush" has become synonymous with the term "incompetent." 4,000+ U.S. soldiers are dead because of that incompetence.

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                                        admin last edited by

                                        mustangsally10:

                                        EADG:

                                        mustangsally10:

                                        EADG:

                                        mustangsally10:

                                        Great Democrat achievements in modern times: Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, health care for all poor children, repeal of DADT, reform of student loan industry to make college less expensive, women's right to choose, Health Care Reform making health care a right not a privilege etc, etc, etc. All programs taking the US into the 21th century From the republicans the legacy of the last 30 years beginning with Reagan

                                        debt and stagnant wages , wealth concentrated in upper incomes to the detriment of the middle class, war ad nauseam, obstruction of remedies to climate change don't expect the republicans to absorb this . but most people of at least average intelligence know this. Democrats care about people and want to insure that ALL people live in dignity that is our ideology...not exactly mean spirited Here you go jaiper..your op out medicare form https://www.cahabagba.com/part_b/forms/OptOutAffidavit.pdf

                                        have you noticed that a large number of the avhievements that you list for the democrats are now causing our great nation to FREAKING DROWN IN DEBT? nice legacy for the vote buying demogogues of the democratic party

                                        Haha, looks like you didn't get the memo

                                        http://www.alternet.org/world/149324/america_in_decline%3A_why_germans_think_we're_insane/ http://www.economist.com/blogs/freeexchange/2010/07/recovery_1

                                        It's not a strong safety net that's the problem, it's revenue. We need to cut taxes for the rich and continue to downsize our military. Obamas' budget is a great beginning. Your ideas are so 20th century...What are you republlicans trying to do?... ruin the 21th century just like you did the 20th?

                                        that article was kind of interesting (albeit kind of out of date, considering everything that's happened in the eurozone since it was published last summer). However, do you understand that it has nothing to do with the point I was making?

                                        perhaps you didn't know what point you were making. The democrat great achievements as mentioned above include social security, medicare, etc the safety net for the american population....the article above about Germany says that Germany the EU (Germany) have a strong safety net for their citizens that puts ours to shame. The second article talks about how Germany is surviving the financial crisis very well. Do you see the connection? Really with you republicans I feel like I'm teaching class and have to speak in one syllable words. :

                                        And let's not forget the Republican achievements of the past decade: -Medicare Part D (added about, let's say, $350 billion to the deficit) -Prescription drug legislation (added about another $400 billion to the deficit) -Bush's immediate tax breaks for the rich (weren't paid for -- and, yes, added significantly to the deficit) Funny how conservatives NEVER acknowledge those facts. And they won't now, either. Because it's not really about fiscal government.

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                                          rich n last edited by

                                          Dems have pushed this country closer to the brink of bankruptcy in just the past two year than either party has in the past 50-75 years. Their 'robinhood' approach, while noble on some levels, is over the top and pure fantasy

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                                            Case in point.

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