The ..2012.... Political thread
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Andy_Shofar:
Jimmy Carter Accuses President Obama of 'Widespread Abuse of Human Rights' ... Jimmy Carter, America's 39th president, denounced the Obama administration for "clearly violating" 10 of the 30 articles of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, writing in a New York Times op-ed on Monday that the "United States is abandoning its role as the global champion of human rights." ... http://news.yahoo.com/jimmy-carter-accuses-u-widespread-abuse-human-rights-154057442--abc-news-politics.html
And we know how much human rights is a staple of the Republican platform.
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Christian group backs away from gay 'cure' http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47975787/ns/us_news-life/ (as a side note: I think this photo of the organization's president says it all...wonder if they ever tried to work on michelle Bachmann's hubby) http://msnbcmedia4.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/120627-alan-chambers-exodus-544a.grid-5x2.jpg
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21st Century Paul:
The USA is not the champion of the human rights
. Check any UN statistitics and it's not even in the first places... Death penalty, Guantanamo, lots of wars.... Then the "Patriot Act" and all that... 
Preachingto the choir, bro.
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The USA is not the champion of the human rights
. Check any UN statistitics and it's not even in the first places... Death penalty, Guantanamo, lots of wars.... Then the "Patriot Act" and all that... -
audi:
21st Century Paul:
The USA is not the champion of the human rights
. Check any UN statistitics and it's not even in the first places... Death penalty, Guantanamo, lots of wars.... Then the "Patriot Act" and all that... Preachingto the choir, bro.
how I am quoted before saying it... travelling back in time?
Well, I'm not preaching, I'm not even saying that is wrong... but there's no way that fits into "being the champion" of "Human Rights". -
I've been saying for years that Democrats -- not all but most -- are p-ssies. And here's more evidence of that: House Democrats break rank to back Holder contempt as vote looms: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/06/27/house-democrat-breaks-ranks-to-back-holder-contempt-as-vote-looms/ Amazing that Dems can't stick together on ANYTHING! They're letting the NRA's intimidation scare thme into particiapting in this wholly political, baseless contempt vote.
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21st Century Paul:
mustangsally10:
Love Jimmy Carter...Obama too. I have a question for all you republicans and repub supporters. I've been trying to figure out how mittens economic plan differs from bush's and I can't find anything . So how does mittens economic plan differ from bush's
: : : : : : : : : : : I'm a policy wonk and inquiring minds want to know...so what's the difference : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : :if Romney plan is like Bush plan (and it's the most voted by the people) then those in the other side of the Atlantic will envy those in these side soon even if the Euro collapses
I agree Oliver
and I don't think you could find anyone who would say that bush's economic policies worked...he almost destroyed the world 
So it would be crazy to advocate for the same policies So I want to know What is it that mittens would do differently : : : : : How are his policies different from bush's : : : : : Surely, his supporters must know and want to spread the news right : : : : -
You won't get a direct answer, mustangsally10. They KNOW that their plan is destructive. They just keep riding that whole fiscal government platform -- although it is actually the Democrats who balance budgets. Their real platform is about criminalizing abortions, MORE tax breaks for the wealthy, getting rid of unions, abolishing the minimum wage, Christianity above all other faiths -- and straights before gays. If they really cared about fiscal government (wink-wink, nudge, nudge), then the deficit wouldn't have tripled under Reagan and downright exploded under Bush.
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mustangsally10:
21st Century Paul:
mustangsally10:
Love Jimmy Carter...Obama too. I have a question for all you republicans and repub supporters. I've been trying to figure out how mittens economic plan differs from bush's and I can't find anything . So how does mittens economic plan differ from bush's
: : : : : : : : : : : I'm a policy wonk and inquiring minds want to know...so what's the difference : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : :if Romney plan is like Bush plan (and it's the most voted by the people) then those in the other side of the Atlantic will envy those in these side soon even if the Euro collapses
I agree Oliver
and I don't think you could find anyone who would say that bush's economic policies worked...he almost destroyed the world So it would be crazy to advocate for the same policies So I want to know What is it that mittens would do differently : : : : : How are his policies different from bush's : : : : : Surely, his supporters must know and want to spread the news right : : : :well, the thing is still not decided, it could end with the world destroyed
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well, "conservatism" is pretty destructive.... Just like neoliberalism is anything but liberal... Ain't the supporters of Roosevelt's New Deal were called "Liberals?" So twisting the words to name the oppossite of that as "neoliberals...". Neoconservatives or neocons would be truer. But "conservative" is focused on preserve (the world?, the peace?, the justice? the economy?)... and conservatism is not about that, is about tradition, "same old". It's traditionalism. There's a moving picture about that, Fiddler in the Roof, all about some man and his family facing traditions. It's not easy. Tradition-Fiddler in the Roof
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Mod Post Sadly the size of this current thread has made the management of it impossible due to it's size. We are reluctantly obliged to lock it and invite one of the current participants to do the honours and start The 2012 Political Thread - Part 2 drawing on the spirit shown in this existing topic and it's current themes. This current topic will be locked and will remain available for reference until the new thread has picked up the existing debate sufficiently. Thank you Martin Update: Part Two has now been started and you can continue these debates there by following this link: http://maccaboard.paulmccartney.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=84466
