Do you believe in magick?
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hey_kittay:
I know a few someone's who put black magick spells on me, and in turn without any energy from me, their lives turned upside down giving them even more of what they conjured up for me. See, when people put negative spells on me, I am so good at heart, their hateful energy deflects back on them and they suffer. I take no happiness in it, but am glad that the Universe looks out for it's own who do nothing to warrant such people casting dark spells. The person might think they got what they wanted short term, but long term it does not work. Because I perservere.
< Frater PerduraboI totally feel this way too. I do know one person who was successful and putting a negative spell on me out of jealousy but I loved her and her husband very much. I'd still rather have my life then hers. Hers sucks and she knows it.
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hey_kittay:
butterpie:
hey_kittay:
I know a few someone's who put black magick spells on me, and in turn without any energy from me, their lives turned upside down giving them even more of what they conjured up for me. See, when people put negative spells on me, I am so good at heart, their hateful energy deflects back on them and they suffer. I take no happiness in it, but am glad that the Universe looks out for it's own who do nothing to warrant such people casting dark spells. The person might think they got what they wanted short term, but long term it does not work. Because I perservere.
< Frater PerduraboI know the hindu stuff too you know. Love your enemies.So hard when you are suffering with something. Or many things. What is even more difficult is the feeling of distrust of others. I feel I have very powerful and very wealthy people that have it in for me. So The challenge is bigger. For me I go "I just want to live." I don't car that much about money even. I want to garden and hike stuff like that and just be well. Health vs wealth. I choose health.
Butterpie, seems we have some of the same stuff going on. I have people in my City government and the State of Alabama government on my a**. And other areas as well. All because I want my rights as a citizen of the USA to be enforced. They are very powerful and dangerous people, and I am not being reckless by facing them, as I have lost my home to them and they continue to cover up the crimes they have been complicent in. I realise they are more powerful than me in money and connections, but I have to trust the higher power of the Universe to put things on an even playing field. Believe me, I have wanted to curse them many times, but never have as that would compromise my beliefs. I just want peace and happiness and that does not mean wealth. But I will not stand for a group of thugs to destroy my property and all I have worked for and my Mom too. I think the Universal Power is much more powerful than any political group and so I trust in that magick to guide me to a higher state of being. I hope everything works out 4 U 2!
sounds like you could use Aradia: Gospel of the Witches. that belief system allows for spells against a government that oppresses you being karma free. I'm luck, the butt wipes who have it in for me are dumb, poor and crazy. they try and try but fail and fail. Their few successes don't amount to a hill of beans.
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I attended Catholic school during my early years. I am not Catholic, but experienced some interesting things, good and bad. On the subject of curses and magick and the Catholic Church, I was always interested in the Knights Templar, more specifically the curse of Jacques de Molay. In 1314 he was burned alive and while he was dying, cursed Pope Clement V. and King Philip the Fair of France. Well, it all came to pass: http://www.jacquesdemolay.info/uk/jdm4.html I also believe that was has happened recently concerning the resignation of Pope Benedict XVI in the year 2013 is a continuation of de Molay's 'curse.' 13 is a very significant number to the Knights Templar, whom I love dearly.
who knows right? 
And I think if I were burning alive I might curse those responsible as well! 
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Is it magic...or is it cosmic synchronicity...where feelings and thoughts and physical realities sometimes come together in curious and unusual ways? What if we're just one huge mathematical equation that is slowly but surely moving us from spiritual and educational darkness toward spiritual and educational light?
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SurSteven:
Is it magic...or is it cosmic synchronicity...where feelings and thoughts and physical realities sometimes come together in curious and unusual ways? What if we're just one huge mathematical equation that is slowly but surely moving us from spiritual and educational darkness toward spiritual and educational light?
I like that thought alot. I hope we are just one huge mathematical equation moving in such a groovy direction.
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hey_kittay:
SurSteven:
Is it magic...or is it cosmic synchronicity...where feelings and thoughts and physical realities sometimes come together in curious and unusual ways? What if we're just one huge mathematical equation that is slowly but surely moving us from spiritual and educational darkness toward spiritual and educational light?
I like that thought alot. I hope we are just one huge mathematical equation moving in such a groovy direction.
I believe we are jammed together in this world where there are beings that come from different realities. Judaism teaches there are 70 realms of exsistence. That is why they really don't judge other religions. Like if it is ok with you then. You know you really can't judge. That is why there are so many religions. But coming toward the same light. I see that and I believe in that educational light.
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who knows right? And I think if I were burning alive I might curse those responsible as well! I am just learning the freemason stuff thanks for the info. What I do know about freemasonary. Our country was founded by them. And as long as you believe in a divine creator. How you believe and how you worship and what you believe about doesn't matter. So that is cool by me. Let people make their own laws as Americans do.
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I certainly do believe - it's real and tangible. However, I also believe that one must have a rational mind in order to work with the elements without huge repercussions. Cursing others, for one, is a hugely naive thing to do. I learned that the hard way by invoking Sekhmet on someone who had hurt me deeply, - it worked - but I paid dearly for it, for a couple of years. What we send out, we receive many times over. I have practiced for several decades, and always use it to connect with Nature, and to heal. Every once in awhile I will perform a binding on someone who is out of control (like a psychic vampire), but that's just to get them to go away, not harm them. If we practice in anger, it's like being drunk ? we do things we shouldn't. Love is all you need.
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Every once in awhile I will perform a binding on someone who is out of control- lone raven That is one I have to learn.. Well my higher self does. There are too many of them want to prove something against me. When they should let me be. I have been spied on too. Now see they think they will catch my physical self doing something. My higher self is doing something. Unstoppable.
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I found this it is interesting. Sur Steve was talking about the number things. This man is smart. He tell you about the number of the name like the beast in the bible. 666.
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So we cannot discuss historical events that just happen to include a certain religion? I am not dissing religion of any kind. I was educated in a Catholic School and an Episcopalian School during my formative years. I had many interesting experiences in both. The best education I had was in Catholic School. Magick anyone can laugh at, but to some it is a religion as well, so maybe the rules of board etiquette should apply as equally to this practice, (i.e. Paganism, Wicca.) I respect everyone's right to worship as they please, so respect mine as well. I believe Jesus was a real mystic and prophet and performed acts one can describe as magickal. Just because I believe in Magick, does not mean I am a demon. I believe LOVE is the center of the Universe. I believe God exists, but I do not believe you have to be one faith or another to get into Heaven. That is a human conception and if one wants to believe it fine with me. Just like I believe in Magick and Jesus. They are not mutually exclusive concepts. Amen. <3<3<3
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hey_kittay:
So we cannot discuss historical events that just happen to include a certain religion? I am not dissing religion of any kind. I was educated in a Catholic School and an Episcopalian School during my formative years. I had many interesting experiences in both. The best education I had was in Catholic School. Magick anyone can laugh at, but to some it is a religion as well, so maybe the rules of board etiquette should apply as equally to this practice, (i.e. Paganism, Wicca.) I respect everyone's right to worship as they please, so respect mine as well. I believe Jesus was a real mystic and prophet and performed acts one can describe as magickal. Just because I believe in Magick, does not mean I am a demon. I believe LOVE is the center of the Universe. I believe God exists, but I do not believe you have to be one faith or another to get into Heaven. That is a human conception and if one wants to believe it fine with me. Just like I believe in Magick and Jesus. They are not mutually exclusive concepts. Amen. <3<3<3
Me too. Amen.
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Many of the fundamentalist and traditional religious thinkers of the time thought that John and Jesus were bedeviled because of the inexplicable supernatural phenomenon and signs and wonders that were happening around them. Ironic, isn't it? Matt.11 1 [18] For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, He hath a devil. Luke.7 1 [33] For John the Baptist came neither eating bread nor drinking wine; and ye say, He hath a devil. John.10 1 [20] And many of them said, He hath a devil, and is mad; why hear ye him? 2[21] Others said, These are not the words of him that hath a devil. Can a devil open the eyes of the blind?
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SurSteven:
Many of the fundamentalist and traditional religious thinkers of the time thought that John and Jesus were bedeviled because of the inexplicable supernatural phenomenon and signs and wonders that were happening around them. Ironic, isn't it? Matt.11 1 [18] For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, He hath a devil. Luke.7 1 [33] For John the Baptist came neither eating bread nor drinking wine; and ye say, He hath a devil. John.10 1 [20] And many of them said, He hath a devil, and is mad; why hear ye him? 2[21] Others said, These are not the words of him that hath a devil. Can a devil open the eyes of the blind?
Yep that is what I mean. They always say it is the devil. Many churches are just a goverment a religion. Which Jesus and John were neither. So what? If something is the devil then it is. What are we to do whine? Make it better that is all. All I know to do is to follow my own direction. Same as anyone.
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I was thinking about these people that believe they rule over everyone. The kinds of things they do to other people to make them submit. I think its bullshit to make someone give them selves up to anything. As if they have no will of their own. What kind of wacko desires worship from another human being? No God would ever force anyone to give in. I believe their are people that make a mess of lives of others to force them to see things their way. A god like being would never force anyone to do anything. They simply rule and not brag. I say all that because of the ones that have approached me and try to convince me they were God.
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I said I would not put a curse on anyone. But this morning whilst waking up I was in the middle or near the ending of casting a spell of Truth on a certain person in a high government position here in Alabama. They are continuing to cover up the crime of my Mom's house being destroyed, and I guess my higher self in my dream state cast the spell 4 me. Oh well...
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All the worlds religions have some concept of good and evil but only one puts ephisison a devil. its not my religion that does that. love doris
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hey_kittay:
I attended Catholic school during my early years. I am not Catholic, but experienced some interesting things, good and bad. On the subject of curses and magick and the Catholic Church, I was always interested in the Knights Templar, more specifically the curse of Jacques de Molay. In 1314 he was burned alive and while he was dying, cursed Pope Clement V. and King Philip the Fair of France. Well, it all came to pass: http://www.jacquesdemolay.info/uk/jdm4.html I also believe that was has happened recently concerning the resignation of Pope Benedict XVI in the year 2013 is a continuation of de Molay's 'curse.' 13 is a very significant number to the Knights Templar, whom I love dearly.
who knows right? And I think if I were burning alive I might curse those responsible as well! Many of us alive today where the ones burned during the Dark Ages. I was once asked to join a modern version of the Knights Templar. I had only thought of them as protecting the mid-east for Christians and turned them down. They gave me a mandrake root to entice me. Now that I know more about them, I think to myself, "I am soooooo cool. I turned those people down. Wow. Go me."
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butterpie:
Judaism teaches there are 70 realms of exsistence. That is why they really don't judge other religions. Like if it is ok with you then. You know you really can't judge. That is why there are so many religions. But coming toward the same light. I see that and I believe in that educational light.
Odd that you say that. among those that have actively persecuted or discriminated me for my religion, I got it worse from the Jewish folk around me then the Christians for being a witch.
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Lone Raven:
I certainly do believe - it's real and tangible. However, I also believe that one must have a rational mind in order to work with the elements without huge repercussions. Cursing others, for one, is a hugely naive thing to do. I learned that the hard way by invoking Sekhmet on someone who had hurt me deeply, - it worked - but I paid dearly for it, for a couple of years. .
You invoked someone else. There's always a risk there no matter your intent. I just do it all myself.
