Do you believe in magick?
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Well the Sex Magic I read about usually involves candles, focusing energy while making love.... but I don't really get what else is involved or how it's supposed to work or what other elements should be involved.
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hey_kittay:
And yes, Sur Steven you can send amorous vibes to 'someone' to induce noctural emissions, I should know that one! But I do think they would have to be a willing recepient, even subconsciously, as in the law of attraction, for it to work.
Well of course! It's amazing what a little candle light and wine will conjur up between mutual participants! -
SurSteven:
hey_kittay:
And yes, Sur Steven you can send amorous vibes to 'someone' to induce noctural emissions, I should know that one! But I do think they would have to be a willing recepient, even subconsciously, as in the law of attraction, for it to work.
Well of course! It's amazing what a little candle light and wine will conjur up between mutual participants! true.
A true story: I remember without going into detail, before I 'knew' , and after I 'knew' what was happening. A ritual of a type of cake eaten by both participants, a shared chalice, candles, a symbolic dagger and overhead a symbolic coin of some sort, shaving of the male's face. Things were said and done. But I prefer to keep it in my memory. You can find these rituals in any Magick book. But at the time I did not know what was occurring. Obviously, it does not matter if you know or not, if you are willing at any level. 
Anyway, I find it to be more fun to practise Magick with someone than alone. Although being alone is powerful as well. Love & Light! <sigh> -
I want to learn more about undoing spells that others have cast on me that are harmful. I have gotten to the point where I recognize them. I don't know how to undo someone elses doing when it is harmful to me. But while they have me down it gives me a chance to learn about things of a spiritual nature that I either never understood before or lost. I think we all find our way anyway.
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hey_kittay:
SurSteven:
hey_kittay:
And yes, Sur Steven you can send amorous vibes to 'someone' to induce noctural emissions, I should know that one! But I do think they would have to be a willing recepient, even subconsciously, as in the law of attraction, for it to work.
Well of course! It's amazing what a little candle light and wine will conjur up between mutual participants! true.
A true story: I remember without going into detail, before I 'knew' , and after I 'knew' what was happening. A ritual of a type of cake eaten by both participants, a shared chalice, candles, a symbolic dagger and overhead a symbolic coin of some sort, shaving of the male's face. Things were said and done. But I prefer to keep it in my memory. You can find these rituals in any Magick book. But at the time I did not know what was occurring. Obviously, it does not matter if you know or not, if you are willing at any level. Anyway, I find it to be more fun to practise Magick with someone than alone. Although being alone is powerful as well. Love & Light! <sigh> Thank you this was just the kind of information I was looking for.
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How do you undo a magick spell. Or how do you find out if a spell has been cast of an evil nature against you?
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butterpie:
How do you undo a magick spell. Or how do you find out if a spell has been cast of an evil nature against you?
I don't know about reversing a black magick spell on you. I guess you could find something somewhere to read...I will look later. I was told a chick put a spell of some sort on me a few years back. I was really p*ssed about it. But I know it all came back on her. I was telling this girl the other day who was bragging about putting a curse on someone how dumb it was, as she would pay the price. But I don't know.
Oh, and Shevell here is a thing about alters: One other thing you can do at home, is designate an alter of some sort in a place of rest and relaxation. I knew someone who had an alter, of all places, over the headboard area of the bed. It had this shelf type place and there were all kinds of trinkets and special vibe things there. I would sometimes bring things to add. So anytime you were in that bed, you were in a sanctuary of magick. It was really nice. 
Bear in mind I am new to this too, so would appreciate any guidance as well. My original teacher of magick kinda disappeared! Peace & Love! -
butterpie:
hey_kittay:
I have experienced sex magick. Now I realise I have been doing this quite a while without knowing what I was doing. I believe one person was practising this on me without my knowledge at first, but then I did the same to them. I have no idea what their intentions were now, but my magick was pure in Nature. I never planned what I was thinking but I would experience alot of vivid imagery and scenes of being in another place and time, or even different dimensions altogether.
Hard to explain. I have no formal knowledge of sex magick but would like to know more oneday. I have all that imagry past life stuff most often now anyway. Drives me nuts. I could see a sexual encounter bringing more of that forth. Like a trip together. That is one of my past life experiences. Like being able to travel and see other places with our minds during a tantra like experience. I think the domain I was from I wasn't never allowed to leave. So that is the way we did things. Life is but a dream right? Not really though. Life is real enough to me. I suffer it enough. But that is a cool way of thinking on it.
I really need to get my head around it for something involving my work believe it or not. lol I read what Aleister Crowley had to say about it. Do you think he was a bad man or ok?
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Shevell:
butterpie:
hey_kittay:
I have experienced sex magick. Now I realise I have been doing this quite a while without knowing what I was doing. I believe one person was practising this on me without my knowledge at first, but then I did the same to them. I have no idea what their intentions were now, but my magick was pure in Nature. I never planned what I was thinking but I would experience alot of vivid imagery and scenes of being in another place and time, or even different dimensions altogether.
Hard to explain. I have no formal knowledge of sex magick but would like to know more oneday. I have all that imagry past life stuff most often now anyway. Drives me nuts. I could see a sexual encounter bringing more of that forth. Like a trip together. That is one of my past life experiences. Like being able to travel and see other places with our minds during a tantra like experience. I think the domain I was from I wasn't never allowed to leave. So that is the way we did things. Life is but a dream right? Not really though. Life is real enough to me. I suffer it enough. But that is a cool way of thinking on it.
I really need to get my head around it for something involving my work believe it or not. lol I read what Aleister Crowley had to say about it. Do you think he was a bad man or ok?
I THINK Aleister was an honest man. What more can anyone ask for. I haven't read any of his sex magick books but have read where they say he had a great deal of control over women. They claim he was bi sexual.
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butterpie:
Shevell:
butterpie:
hey_kittay:
I have experienced sex magick. Now I realise I have been doing this quite a while without knowing what I was doing. I believe one person was practising this on me without my knowledge at first, but then I did the same to them. I have no idea what their intentions were now, but my magick was pure in Nature. I never planned what I was thinking but I would experience alot of vivid imagery and scenes of being in another place and time, or even different dimensions altogether.
Hard to explain. I have no formal knowledge of sex magick but would like to know more oneday. I have all that imagry past life stuff most often now anyway. Drives me nuts. I could see a sexual encounter bringing more of that forth. Like a trip together. That is one of my past life experiences. Like being able to travel and see other places with our minds during a tantra like experience. I think the domain I was from I wasn't never allowed to leave. So that is the way we did things. Life is but a dream right? Not really though. Life is real enough to me. I suffer it enough. But that is a cool way of thinking on it.
I really need to get my head around it for something involving my work believe it or not. lol I read what Aleister Crowley had to say about it. Do you think he was a bad man or ok?
I THINK Aleister was an honest man. What more can anyone ask for. I haven't read any of his sex magick books but have read where they say he had a great deal of control over women. They claim he was bi sexual.
I think Aleister Crowley was not afraid to be himself. He did not care what others thought about the way he chose to live his life. If you read about his life from the beginning you might understand why he chose his path. How can one judge another person anyway? I am sure a great deal of his critics were doing all sorts of wild things in their lives but they chose to be secretive about it. I must say being one of his 'Scarlet Women' obviously is very stressful on the women he chose to be a muse. The way he used women and men, as in I don't think he knew how to LOVE someone, is the thing I find distasteful,but see I am judging too, and maybe sad for him. His works I have not read nearly all, but what I have read has enlightened me. What is good and bad? None of us has ever sinned, not even Aleister Crowley.
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butterpie:
How do you undo a magick spell. Or how do you find out if a spell has been cast of an evil nature against you?
I've been trying to get an answer to this. the learned people who run the store near me that supplies me made it like it was impossible to break another's spell on you but I don't believe that.
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Shevell:
Well the Sex Magic I read about usually involves candles, focusing energy while making love.... but I don't really get what else is involved or how it's supposed to work or what other elements should be involved.
actually, the sex magic I know of isn't about sex but about the spell and using the energy of sex to focus the spell. the spell can be about several different things.
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hey_kittay:
butterpie:
Shevell:
butterpie:
hey_kittay:
I have experienced sex magick. Now I realise I have been doing this quite a while without knowing what I was doing. I believe one person was practising this on me without my knowledge at first, but then I did the same to them. I have no idea what their intentions were now, but my magick was pure in Nature. I never planned what I was thinking but I would experience alot of vivid imagery and scenes of being in another place and time, or even different dimensions altogether.
Hard to explain. I have no formal knowledge of sex magick but would like to know more oneday. I have all that imagry past life stuff most often now anyway. Drives me nuts. I could see a sexual encounter bringing more of that forth. Like a trip together. That is one of my past life experiences. Like being able to travel and see other places with our minds during a tantra like experience. I think the domain I was from I wasn't never allowed to leave. So that is the way we did things. Life is but a dream right? Not really though. Life is real enough to me. I suffer it enough. But that is a cool way of thinking on it.
I really need to get my head around it for something involving my work believe it or not. lol I read what Aleister Crowley had to say about it. Do you think he was a bad man or ok?
I THINK Aleister was an honest man. What more can anyone ask for. I haven't read any of his sex magick books but have read where they say he had a great deal of control over women. They claim he was bi sexual.
I think Aleister Crowley was not afraid to be himself. He did not care what others thought about the way he chose to live his life. If you read about his life from the beginning you might understand why he chose his path. How can one judge another person anyway? I am sure a great deal of his critics were doing all sorts of wild things in their lives but they chose to be secretive about it. I must say being one of his 'Scarlet Women' obviously is very stressful on the women he chose to be a muse. The way he used women and men, as in I don't think he knew how to LOVE someone, is the thing I find distasteful,but see I am judging too, and maybe sad for him. His works I have not read nearly all, but what I have read has enlightened me. What is good and bad? None of us has ever sinned, not even Aleister Crowley.
My own thoughts about Crowley was that he did a lot to expose magik but he also was a heroin addict and that is a bad combination on any level.
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Kathryn O:
Shevell:
Well the Sex Magic I read about usually involves candles, focusing energy while making love.... but I don't really get what else is involved or how it's supposed to work or what other elements should be involved.
actually, the sex magic I know of isn't about sex but about the spell and using the energy of sex to focus the spell. the spell can be about several different things.
Yes that's it exactly using the energy of sex, focusing on the desired outcome during sex. I'm just trying to find out what I can about the history of that and the elements that might be used like alters, trinkets etc...during the process. It's harder to find this information than I would have thought. As for Aleister Crowley well I was just googling about it. I came upon a site that was ranting about how evil he was. They claimed he tortured animals from the age of 12 and that would be truly evil but it was a Christian site and so I am not sure how accurate it was as some Christians have what to me is a bizarre reaction to anything even remotely magical like they think astrology is evil, the think Harry Potter is evil and go way over the top about it. Not trying to be rude about Christians but to me these attitudes are baffling.
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Shevell:
Kathryn O:
Shevell:
Well the Sex Magic I read about usually involves candles, focusing energy while making love.... but I don't really get what else is involved or how it's supposed to work or what other elements should be involved.
actually, the sex magic I know of isn't about sex but about the spell and using the energy of sex to focus the spell. the spell can be about several different things.
Yes that's it exactly using the energy of sex, focusing on the desired outcome during sex. I'm just trying to find out what I can about the history of that and the elements that might be used like alters, trinkets etc...during the process. It's harder to find this information than I would have thought. As for Aleister Crowley well I was just googling about it. I came upon a site that was ranting about how evil he was. They claimed he tortured animals from the age of 12 and that would be truly evil but it was a Christian site and so I am not sure how accurate it was as some Christians have what to me is a bizarre reaction to anything even remotely magical like they think astrology is evil, the think Harry Potter is evil and go way over the top about it. Not trying to be rude about Christians but to me these attitudes are baffling.
Crowley was a pretty nasty character. I've heard about the torturing of animals and people from non-christian sites. 100 days of Sodom....only a third of the people came out who went in according to legend. but as one of my friends who had been really into crowley said, "He still showed us much that no one else would."
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Kathryn O:
Shevell:
Kathryn O:
Shevell:
Well the Sex Magic I read about usually involves candles, focusing energy while making love.... but I don't really get what else is involved or how it's supposed to work or what other elements should be involved.
actually, the sex magic I know of isn't about sex but about the spell and using the energy of sex to focus the spell. the spell can be about several different things.
Yes that's it exactly using the energy of sex, focusing on the desired outcome during sex. I'm just trying to find out what I can about the history of that and the elements that might be used like alters, trinkets etc...during the process. It's harder to find this information than I would have thought. As for Aleister Crowley well I was just googling about it. I came upon a site that was ranting about how evil he was. They claimed he tortured animals from the age of 12 and that would be truly evil but it was a Christian site and so I am not sure how accurate it was as some Christians have what to me is a bizarre reaction to anything even remotely magical like they think astrology is evil, the think Harry Potter is evil and go way over the top about it. Not trying to be rude about Christians but to me these attitudes are baffling.
Crowley was a pretty nasty character. I've heard about the torturing of animals and people from non-christian sites. 100 days of Sodom....only a third of the people came out who went in according to legend. but as one of my friends who had been really into crowley said, "He still showed us much that no one else would."
No in his teachings in Thelema I read he said it was wrong to use an animal for anything other than what it was created for. He said it was wrong to abuse an animal. I think so much is read into someone that is powerful. He might mention something others have done in his teaching but doesn't encourage it. He believed himself to be Horus a God. Part of RA the sun God. I think Horus may have taken care of the underworld. Don't know for sure but the two entities are each other.I used to do much reading on him on facebook.
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butterpie:
Kathryn O:
Shevell:
Kathryn O:
Shevell:
Well the Sex Magic I read about usually involves candles, focusing energy while making love.... but I don't really get what else is involved or how it's supposed to work or what other elements should be involved.
actually, the sex magic I know of isn't about sex but about the spell and using the energy of sex to focus the spell. the spell can be about several different things.
Yes that's it exactly using the energy of sex, focusing on the desired outcome during sex. I'm just trying to find out what I can about the history of that and the elements that might be used like alters, trinkets etc...during the process. It's harder to find this information than I would have thought. As for Aleister Crowley well I was just googling about it. I came upon a site that was ranting about how evil he was. They claimed he tortured animals from the age of 12 and that would be truly evil but it was a Christian site and so I am not sure how accurate it was as some Christians have what to me is a bizarre reaction to anything even remotely magical like they think astrology is evil, the think Harry Potter is evil and go way over the top about it. Not trying to be rude about Christians but to me these attitudes are baffling.
Crowley was a pretty nasty character. I've heard about the torturing of animals and people from non-christian sites. 100 days of Sodom....only a third of the people came out who went in according to legend. but as one of my friends who had been really into crowley said, "He still showed us much that no one else would."
No in his teachings in Thelema I read he said it was wrong to use an animal for anything other than what it was created for. He said it was wrong to abuse an animal. I think so much is read into someone that is powerful. He might mention something others have done in his teaching but doesn't encourage it. He believed himself to be Horus a God. Part of RA the sun God. I think Horus may have taken care of the underworld. Don't know for sure but the two entities are each other.I used to do much reading on him on facebook.
I found this: The Ethics of Thelema: http://www.thelema.org/publications/books/Ethics.pdf section
refers to the the animal abuse. Peace & Love! -
hey_kittay:
butterpie:
Kathryn O:
Shevell:
Kathryn O:
Shevell:
Well the Sex Magic I read about usually involves candles, focusing energy while making love.... but I don't really get what else is involved or how it's supposed to work or what other elements should be involved.
actually, the sex magic I know of isn't about sex but about the spell and using the energy of sex to focus the spell. the spell can be about several different things.
Yes that's it exactly using the energy of sex, focusing on the desired outcome during sex. I'm just trying to find out what I can about the history of that and the elements that might be used like alters, trinkets etc...during the process. It's harder to find this information than I would have thought. As for Aleister Crowley well I was just googling about it. I came upon a site that was ranting about how evil he was. They claimed he tortured animals from the age of 12 and that would be truly evil but it was a Christian site and so I am not sure how accurate it was as some Christians have what to me is a bizarre reaction to anything even remotely magical like they think astrology is evil, the think Harry Potter is evil and go way over the top about it. Not trying to be rude about Christians but to me these attitudes are baffling.
Crowley was a pretty nasty character. I've heard about the torturing of animals and people from non-christian sites. 100 days of Sodom....only a third of the people came out who went in according to legend. but as one of my friends who had been really into crowley said, "He still showed us much that no one else would."
No in his teachings in Thelema I read he said it was wrong to use an animal for anything other than what it was created for. He said it was wrong to abuse an animal. I think so much is read into someone that is powerful. He might mention something others have done in his teaching but doesn't encourage it. He believed himself to be Horus a God. Part of RA the sun God. I think Horus may have taken care of the underworld. Don't know for sure but the two entities are each other.I used to do much reading on him on facebook.
I found this: The Ethics of Thelema: http://www.thelema.org/publications/books/Ethics.pdf section
refers to the the animal abuse. Peace & Love!I thinks that is very right. I believe that you willingly kill a four legged beast of any kind, I really mean willingly you can't be drugged or under a serious spell. This is one of the reasons you can lose your eternity in this world. I keep being show when you actually eat meat from a four legged animal its blood cells stay in you for about 4 months. This could affect eterinty too. Just something I am shown. I think animals have to physically exsist for us to exsist. They can't die and us live or vice versa. I don't eat fish now or chicken. But for some reason I think fish were deemed to be like insects. At one time.
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Heres one. I can't help it. It is like I am shown things. This one came to me a few nights ago. Sort of like a spell. "If you ask God to forgive you for eating the animals your husband will lose his girlfriends." he he
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I know people who like to play games with it. I wouldn't when it back fires it carries a huge backlash. love doris
