In or Out
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So folks in the UK are you voting IN our OUT
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What does this mean? Just curious?
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love2travel:
What does this mean? Just curious?
Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union? UK Prime Minister David Cameron has announced a referendum to be held on Thursday 23 June.
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calicoskych2001:
love2travel:
What does this mean? Just curious?
Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union? UK Prime Minister David Cameron has announced a referendum to be held on Thursday 23 June.
Thank you Calicosky
Interesting question...wondering how that will go? I've heard a lot of complaints over there, regarding the number of EU persons who are moving into the UK, from abroad. The pound still is higher than the euro. -
I think I caught some of this discussion on CSPAN the other week. As I am a fan of British Parliment. I say out. Can't remember why...there were diverse issues being discussed on the pros and cons. But since I am an American it does not matter. I think I should have been born British.
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I'm with you Kittay, from what I've heard from all of my British friends and part of my family....there is a deep sadness. Villages being over run by foreigners. I have heard of much heartbreak, for the loss of the familiar and the traditional. The yearning for things to go back to the old ways. On the other hand, I've talked to a number of transplanted EU persons, who are very happy to have moved there. I can't blame them, it's such a beautiful country.
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love2travel:
I'm with you Kittay, from what I've heard from all of my British friends and part of my family....there is a deep sadness. Villages being over run by foreigners. I have heard of much heartbreak, for the loss of the familiar and the traditional. The yearning for things to go back to the old ways. On the other hand, I've talked to a number of transplanted EU persons, who are very happy to have moved there. I can't blame them, it's such a beautiful country.
A small insight into modern Britain:
As incomes, homes, rights, independence, and peace of mind are being removed from our poorest and most vulnerable, people who are not (yet) in that position are being encouraged to think they are better. No less an entity than the government approves of those who take on massive debt to let the bank own their home, the powers that be approve of people who are working so much that thy have no time for their families. Cuts, charges, fines, sanctions, assessments, tests; prying into poor people's lives from their finances to how they wash (or not) is now de rigeur; no appeals, no arguments, and official begging for a voucher for food is commonplace. Media egging on the "normal" people to hate, to report alleged transgressions from rules nobody understands, to look down on others who are now judged to have only themselves to blame for their predicament - or worse, their genes.
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Squid:
love2travel:
I'm with you Kittay, from what I've heard from all of my British friends and part of my family....there is a deep sadness. Villages being over run by foreigners. I have heard of much heartbreak, for the loss of the familiar and the traditional. The yearning for things to go back to the old ways. On the other hand, I've talked to a number of transplanted EU persons, who are very happy to have moved there. I can't blame them, it's such a beautiful country.
A small insight into modern Britain:
As incomes, homes, rights, independence, and peace of mind are being removed from our poorest and most vulnerable, people who are not (yet) in that position are being encouraged to think they are better. No less an entity than the government approves of those who take on massive debt to let the bank own their home, the powers that be approve of people who are working so much that thy have no time for their families. Cuts, charges, fines, sanctions, assessments, tests; prying into poor people's lives from their finances to how they wash (or not) is now de rigeur; no appeals, no arguments, and official begging for a voucher for food is commonplace. Media egging on the "normal" people to hate, to report alleged transgressions from rules nobody understands, to look down on others who are now judged to have only themselves to blame for their predicament - or worse, their genes.
Yes, I've experienced some of this, to a degree, on regular visits. Or even sending a gift shipment clearly marked as such, as well as that shipment being marked, bill shipper, yet the recipient being charged a value of $80 VAT on a gift valued at $17. Gift shipments are supposed to be exempted up to $50. Every time, a phone call is required to get it sorted! I'm sure that instance of over taxation, plays out on a larger scale, day to day. Media is into the stirring up hate business officially now, it seems. It's all a topsy turvy world anymore. Not sure what the answers are. In the US, most of the population is from somewhere else, it's not such an issue. The UK has so much history and beauty. Hope it can be preserved with all the changes going on, and not ripped down and replaced with Disney like copies of the real thing...going forward. Although a Brit once told me, he moved to the U.S. because "everything is new here". It's all perspective...
