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      mrm512 last edited by

      For the 3 new concerts just announced (Nrpew Orleans, Fort Wayne, and Phoenix) does anyone understand how VIP tickets work in conjunction with the verified fan situation?  I’ve done verified fan tickets before with other events, but not where there are other options for VIP tickets.  I need some guidance!

      ~ Mary

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      • Nancy R
        Nancy R last edited by

        The pm.com presale code last go-around got all screwed up, so now they are going back to the verified fan thing AND asking you to pay $8 for an Egypt Station lanyard that gives you an extra chance to be picked?! WTF?!!

        This means that even with 2 chances, you STILL might not be picked to participate in the presale! I don’t think it matters if you want regular or VIP tickets. Everybody is in the same sinking boat, DESPITE REPEATED WARNINGS!

        Omni, Atlanta, GA May 18, 1976, Feb. 17, 1990

        GA Dome, Atlanta, GA May 1, 1993

        Philips Arena, Atlanta, GA May 12, 2002

        FedEx Forum, Memphis, TN May 26, 2013

        Philips Arena, Atlanta, GA Oct. 15, 2014

        Infinite Energy Center, Duluth, GA July 13, 2017

        Bon Secours Arena, Greenville, SC May 30, 2019

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          admin last edited by

          Lemme get this right? They pick who can be in the presales even with ose two things? why bother to have those then? Makes no sense to me. I would like to be in the pre sale tickets for Los Angeles if he adds it.

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          • Nancy R
            Nancy R last edited by

            maccasfangirl30 wrote:

            Lemme get this right? They pick who can be in the presales even with ose two things? why bother to have those then? Makes no sense to me. I would like to be in the pre sale tickets for Los Angeles if he adds it.

            Yes, it’s like a lottery. If you don’t buy the lanyard you have 1 chance/“Ticket” but you get 2 chances if you buy it. I have no idea how many people they pick, but it would be however many seats that they choose to make available for presale. Probably less, because one person can buy 4 seats is that correct?

            Omni, Atlanta, GA May 18, 1976, Feb. 17, 1990

            GA Dome, Atlanta, GA May 1, 1993

            Philips Arena, Atlanta, GA May 12, 2002

            FedEx Forum, Memphis, TN May 26, 2013

            Philips Arena, Atlanta, GA Oct. 15, 2014

            Infinite Energy Center, Duluth, GA July 13, 2017

            Bon Secours Arena, Greenville, SC May 30, 2019

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            • johnnymain
              johnnymain last edited by

              Nancy R wrote:

              The pm.com presale code last go-around got all screwed up, so now they are going back to the verified fan thing AND asking you to pay $8 for an Egypt Station lanyard that gives you an extra chance to be picked?! WTF?!!

              This means that even with 2 chances, you STILL might not be picked to participate in the presale! I don’t think it matters if you want regular or VIP tickets. Everybody is in the same sinking boat, DESPITE REPEATED WARNINGS!

              They're not "asking you to pay $8 for an Egypt Station lanyard" but offering a digital copy of the album with a lanyard and laminate that also gives you a pre-access code - all for $8.

              It's just another way to market the album.  Paul runs a business - not a charity so he's trying to maximise sales of the album via different formats and routes.

              It should be noted that this offer (excluisve to the US) is still chepaer than buying the download in the UK with no laminate or lanyard included - just the digital album.

              "Never guess. Unless you have to. There's enough uncertainty in the universe as it is." - The Fourth Doctor (Logopolis 1981).

              http://www.metaltalk.rocks for Daily Metal News, Reviews and Opinions.

              Glasgow -  20th June 2010

              Liverpool - 20th December 2011

              Liverpool  - 28th May 2015

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                sophie last edited by

                This new style of presales is SO bad, seems to give no advantage to the Paul fans and in fact with Verified Fan it keeps many fans from accessing the PMcC presale.   I'd suggest you look at the venue websites and Ticketmaster to see if there are other types of presales, such as American Express, venue presale, etc.  In fact, I believe Amex presales begin TODAY 9/11 at 10AM local time.  Good luck.

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                • oobu24
                  oobu24 last edited by

                  If you bought the album you can rip it to your hard drive. This is another way to sell the album but it is a crazy way for a fan to possibly get a chance for a ticket.

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                  • johnnymain
                    johnnymain last edited by

                    oobu24 wrote:

                    If you bought the album you can rip it to your hard drive. This is another way to sell the album but it is a crazy way for a fan to possibly get a chance for a ticket.

                    Some people don't have CD players in their PCs and laptops so the download is the perfect way to sell them an album plus the added incentive of the pre-sale code for a knock down price could be quite a draw - if you're in the US.

                    "Never guess. Unless you have to. There's enough uncertainty in the universe as it is." - The Fourth Doctor (Logopolis 1981).

                    http://www.metaltalk.rocks for Daily Metal News, Reviews and Opinions.

                    Glasgow -  20th June 2010

                    Liverpool - 20th December 2011

                    Liverpool  - 28th May 2015

                    Glasgow - 14th December 2018

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                    • thenightfish
                      thenightfish last edited by

                      I am still not quite sure how the lanyards work, been busy w other things this weekend so haven't focused on those. But yes Verified Fan is a lottery no matter how TM tries to say differently.   For the Canadian shows when it was used, it was not needed to buy a VIP package or ticket. Of course that could change for this onsale. I think you can only choose one city to try for a VF code.

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                      • Nancy R
                        Nancy R last edited by

                        johnnymain wrote:

                        Nancy R wrote:

                        The pm.com presale code last go-around got all screwed up, so now they are going back to the verified fan thing AND asking you to pay $8 for an Egypt Station lanyard that gives you an extra chance to be picked?! WTF?!!

                        This means that even with 2 chances, you STILL might not be picked to participate in the presale! I don’t think it matters if you want regular or VIP tickets. Everybody is in the same sinking boat, DESPITE REPEATED WARNINGS!

                        They're not "asking you to pay $8 for an Egypt Station lanyard" but offering a digital copy of the album with a lanyard and laminate that also gives you a pre-access code - all for $8.

                        It's just another way to market the album.  Paul runs a business - not a charity so he's trying to maximise sales of the album via different formats and routes.

                        It should be noted that this offer (excluisve to the US) is still chepaer than buying the download in the UK with no laminate or lanyard included - just the digital album.

                        “Asking” “Offering” - A matter of semantics. I meant that in order to get a 2nd chance in the “lottery” you have to pay $8!

                        I’m thankfully not in this position. I got tickets in Greenville, but only because I have an AMEX card, since the pm.com code presale was a total screw up!

                        Omni, Atlanta, GA May 18, 1976, Feb. 17, 1990

                        GA Dome, Atlanta, GA May 1, 1993

                        Philips Arena, Atlanta, GA May 12, 2002

                        FedEx Forum, Memphis, TN May 26, 2013

                        Philips Arena, Atlanta, GA Oct. 15, 2014

                        Infinite Energy Center, Duluth, GA July 13, 2017

                        Bon Secours Arena, Greenville, SC May 30, 2019

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                        • johnnymain
                          johnnymain last edited by

                          Nancy R wrote:

                          johnnymain wrote:

                          Nancy R wrote:

                          The pm.com presale code last go-around got all screwed up, so now they are going back to the verified fan thing AND asking you to pay $8 for an Egypt Station lanyard that gives you an extra chance to be picked?! WTF?!!

                          This means that even with 2 chances, you STILL might not be picked to participate in the presale! I don’t think it matters if you want regular or VIP tickets. Everybody is in the same sinking boat, DESPITE REPEATED WARNINGS!

                          They're not "asking you to pay $8 for an Egypt Station lanyard" but offering a digital copy of the album with a lanyard and laminate that also gives you a pre-access code - all for $8.

                          It's just another way to market the album.  Paul runs a business - not a charity so he's trying to maximise sales of the album via different formats and routes.

                          It should be noted that this offer (excluisve to the US) is still chepaer than buying the download in the UK with no laminate or lanyard included - just the digital album.

                          “Asking” “Offering” - A matter of semantics. I meant that in order to get a 2nd chance in the “lottery” you have to pay $8!

                          I’m thankfully not in this position. I got tickets in Greenville, but only because I have an AMEX card, since the pm.com code presale was a total screw up!

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                          "Never guess. Unless you have to. There's enough uncertainty in the universe as it is." - The Fourth Doctor (Logopolis 1981).

                          http://www.metaltalk.rocks for Daily Metal News, Reviews and Opinions.

                          Glasgow -  20th June 2010

                          Liverpool - 20th December 2011

                          Liverpool  - 28th May 2015

                          Glasgow - 14th December 2018

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                          • johnnymain
                            johnnymain last edited by

                            Nancy R wrote:

                            johnnymain wrote:

                            Nancy R wrote:

                            The pm.com presale code last go-around got all screwed up, so now they are going back to the verified fan thing AND asking you to pay $8 for an Egypt Station lanyard that gives you an extra chance to be picked?! WTF?!!

                            This means that even with 2 chances, you STILL might not be picked to participate in the presale! I don’t think it matters if you want regular or VIP tickets. Everybody is in the same sinking boat, DESPITE REPEATED WARNINGS!

                            They're not "asking you to pay $8 for an Egypt Station lanyard" but offering a digital copy of the album with a lanyard and laminate that also gives you a pre-access code - all for $8.

                            It's just another way to market the album.  Paul runs a business - not a charity so he's trying to maximise sales of the album via different formats and routes.

                            It should be noted that this offer (excluisve to the US) is still chepaer than buying the download in the UK with no laminate or lanyard included - just the digital album.

                            “Asking” “Offering” - A matter of semantics. I meant that in order to get a 2nd chance in the “lottery” you have to pay $8!

                            I’m thankfully not in this position. I got tickets in Greenville, but only because I have an AMEX card, since the pm.com code presale was a total screw up!

                            Not semantics at all.

                            You're totally missing the point of the lanyard/laminate but nevermind.

                            "Never guess. Unless you have to. There's enough uncertainty in the universe as it is." - The Fourth Doctor (Logopolis 1981).

                            http://www.metaltalk.rocks for Daily Metal News, Reviews and Opinions.

                            Glasgow -  20th June 2010

                            Liverpool - 20th December 2011

                            Liverpool  - 28th May 2015

                            Glasgow - 14th December 2018

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                            • Nancy R
                              Nancy R last edited by

                              johnnymain wrote:

                              Nancy R wrote:

                              johnnymain wrote:

                              Nancy R wrote:

                              The pm.com presale code last go-around got all screwed up, so now they are going back to the verified fan thing AND asking you to pay $8 for an Egypt Station lanyard that gives you an extra chance to be picked?! WTF?!!

                              This means that even with 2 chances, you STILL might not be picked to participate in the presale! I don’t think it matters if you want regular or VIP tickets. Everybody is in the same sinking boat, DESPITE REPEATED WARNINGS!

                              They're not "asking you to pay $8 for an Egypt Station lanyard" but offering a digital copy of the album with a lanyard and laminate that also gives you a pre-access code - all for $8.

                              It's just another way to market the album.  Paul runs a business - not a charity so he's trying to maximise sales of the album via different formats and routes.

                              It should be noted that this offer (excluisve to the US) is still chepaer than buying the download in the UK with no laminate or lanyard included - just the digital album.

                              “Asking” “Offering” - A matter of semantics. I meant that in order to get a 2nd chance in the “lottery” you have to pay $8!

                              I’m thankfully not in this position. I got tickets in Greenville, but only because I have an AMEX card, since the pm.com code presale was a total screw up!

                              Not semantics at all.

                              You're totally missing the point of the lanyard/laminate but nevermind.

                              The point is they are trying any means to promote Egypt Station, including screwing fans into paying $8 for a lanyard/laminate (and a digital download, I know!)  in order to get a 2nd chance at the stupid lottery/verified fan thing! What other point is there? Please enlighten us!

                              Omni, Atlanta, GA May 18, 1976, Feb. 17, 1990

                              GA Dome, Atlanta, GA May 1, 1993

                              Philips Arena, Atlanta, GA May 12, 2002

                              FedEx Forum, Memphis, TN May 26, 2013

                              Philips Arena, Atlanta, GA Oct. 15, 2014

                              Infinite Energy Center, Duluth, GA July 13, 2017

                              Bon Secours Arena, Greenville, SC May 30, 2019

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                              • oobu24
                                oobu24 last edited by

                                Nancy R wrote:

                                johnnymain wrote:

                                Nancy R wrote:

                                johnnymain wrote:

                                Nancy R wrote:

                                The pm.com presale code last go-around got all screwed up, so now they are going back to the verified fan thing AND asking you to pay $8 for an Egypt Station lanyard that gives you an extra chance to be picked?! WTF?!!

                                This means that even with 2 chances, you STILL might not be picked to participate in the presale! I don’t think it matters if you want regular or VIP tickets. Everybody is in the same sinking boat, DESPITE REPEATED WARNINGS!

                                They're not "asking you to pay $8 for an Egypt Station lanyard" but offering a digital copy of the album with a lanyard and laminate that also gives you a pre-access code - all for $8.

                                It's just another way to market the album.  Paul runs a business - not a charity so he's trying to maximise sales of the album via different formats and routes.

                                It should be noted that this offer (excluisve to the US) is still chepaer than buying the download in the UK with no laminate or lanyard included - just the digital album.

                                “Asking” “Offering” - A matter of semantics. I meant that in order to get a 2nd chance in the “lottery” you have to pay $8!

                                I’m thankfully not in this position. I got tickets in Greenville, but only because I have an AMEX card, since the pm.com code presale was a total screw up!

                                Not semantics at all.

                                You're totally missing the point of the lanyard/laminate but nevermind.

                                The point is they are trying any means to promote Egypt Station, including screwing fans into paying $8 for a lanyard/laminate (and a digital download, I know!)  in order to get a 2nd chance at the stupid lottery/verified fan thing! What other point is there? Please enlighten us!

                                I agree with you Nancy. I think it's just another way for them to make money. Why didn't they show this at first when all the album choices were shown. How many copies do they expect us to buy? And then as many say here, the show is geared toward the 1st timer. After we've bought 5 versions of Egypt Station. And we are still waiting for the deluxe version to come out!

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