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    • LadyLeslie
      LadyLeslie last edited by

      I wonder if this is a kitten Paul gave her, or just was used for the photo session.

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      • love2travel
        love2travel last edited by

        Nancy R wrote:

        love2travel wrote:

        LadyLeslie wrote:

        Nancy R wrote:

        At Mike & Angie's wedding June 7, 1968

        https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v319/njr/Paul%20McCartney%20and%20The%20Beatles/296E5E95-C63A-4917-9038-361E5EA24A2B_zpscfj6zeqw.jpeg

        Great photo!  It's amazing to think that just a few weeks later he'd be with Linda in LA.... then Francie that summer..... If he wasn't a Beatle he'd have been good at flipping houses     But we him.

        He flips houses? I've never heard that before?

        No, it was a joke! He "flipped" women so much he might have been good at flipping houses! 😂

        Sort of like pancakes? 😄 You're funny...

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        • Nancy R
          Nancy R last edited by

          love2travel wrote:

          Nancy R wrote:

          love2travel wrote:

          LadyLeslie wrote:

          Nancy R wrote:

          At Mike & Angie's wedding June 7, 1968

          https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v319/njr/Paul%20McCartney%20and%20The%20Beatles/296E5E95-C63A-4917-9038-361E5EA24A2B_zpscfj6zeqw.jpeg

          Great photo!  It's amazing to think that just a few weeks later he'd be with Linda in LA.... then Francie that summer..... If he wasn't a Beatle he'd have been good at flipping houses     But we him.

          He flips houses? I've never heard that before?

          No, it was a joke! He "flipped" women so much he might have been good at flipping houses! 😂

          Sort of like pancakes? 😄 You're funny...

          Not like pancakes! 😂 He went from girl to girl that Spring & Summer of 1968, until he finally settled down with Linda in late September.

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          • Nancy R
            Nancy R last edited by

            Could the kitten Jane is holding be this one from June 18, 1967?

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            • LadyLeslie
              LadyLeslie last edited by

              Nancy R wrote:

              Could the kitten Jane is holding be this one from June 18, 1967?

              https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/v319/njr/D04F04ED_8E97_46F7_8BA5_8B567953C590.jpeg

              I was wondering the same thing, Nancy!  I posted the photo of Jane after I saw your photo of Paul with a kitten.  But the kitten Paul is holding seems to have white above it's eyes, and the one Jane is holding doesn't, so I don't think they're the same... but could possibly be from the same litter?

              There's a photo of Paul that Linda took where a cat is on the outdoor wall behind him... It doesn't look like either of the other two kittens we're posting about.. grown up of course!   The kitten Jane is holding could have been a gift from Paul though... although we have no way of knowing.

              NancyR wrote:

              Not like pancakes! 😂 He went from girl to girl that Spring & Summer of 1968, until he finally settled down with Linda in late September.

              Yes, Paul was a busy boy that Spring and Summer 😂    Not judging him at all though, he was a healthy adult male after all with thousands of women throwing themselves at him.... I'm sure it would be difficult for most men to resist if they were in the same position....   But when he became committed to Linda, that was it... he had no need to call in a farm loan to sow more wild oats

              Wichita, July 19, 2017 - sign read by Paul

              Macca, Makin' the world a little better since 1942

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              • oobu24
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                SEBASTIAN SHAKESPEARE: Sixties muse Pattie Boyd recalls her ...

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                • oobu24
                  oobu24 last edited by

                  These are cute with the 2 famous guys in her life.

                  George Harrison, Eric Clapton and Me; An Evening with Pattie Boyd ...

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                  • Nancy R
                    Nancy R last edited by

                    I read on FB that the kitten Paul is holding was given to him by John and Paul named it Thisbe after the character John played. Supposedly Paul gave John a kitten he named Pyramus after Paul's character. (Remember when they did A Midsummer Night's Dream?)

                    http://www.openculture.com/2013/06/the_beatles_play_with_shakespeares_a_midsummer_nights_dream_1964.html

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                    • LadyLeslie
                      LadyLeslie last edited by

                      Nancy R wrote:

                      I read on FB that the kitten Paul is holding was given to him by John and Paul named it Thisbe after the character John played. Supposedly Paul gave John a kitten he named Pyramus after Paul's character. (Remember when they did A Midsummer Night's Dream?)

                      http://www.openculture.com/2013/06/the_beatles_play_with_shakespeares_a_midsummer_nights_dream_1964.html

                      Yes, I remember seeing a video of the Beatles doing the Midsummer Night's Dream sketch.

                      I wonder what the original source was for Paul and John giving each other "Pyramus and Thisbe" kittens... I checked online and the only place I saw that mentioned was  a "McLennon" blog on Tumblr, and other social media sites seemed to copy the McLennon photo blog & caption... of Paul holding the kitten.   I try to stay away from any "McLennon" pages/sites because they try to promote the wrong idea about the nature of John and Paul's friendship, and give incorrect information.   That same blog also posted a photo of John and Paul which later was proven to be photoshopped.   It was taken of Paul and Jane Asher at Paul's brother's wedding, but photoshopped into one of John and Paul.  Maybe we can check some Beatle books and see if anything is mentioned there about the kittens.

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                      • Nancy R
                        Nancy R last edited by

                        ^ Yeah, I never heard the story about the kittens before. Probably just made up.

                        I saw the photoshopped pic of Paul and John a long time ago and instantly recognized it as being of Paul and Jane at Mike's wedding June 7, 1968.

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                        • LadyLeslie
                          LadyLeslie last edited by

                          Nancy R wrote:

                          ^ Yeah, I never heard the story about the kittens before. Probably just made up.

                          I saw the photoshopped pic of Paul and John a long time ago and instantly recognized it as being of Paul and Jane at Mike's wedding June 7, 1968.

                          I figured you'd already seen the photoshopped pic.    You've been an ardent fan longer than me, so thought you'd probably have read about the Pyramus and Thisbe kittens somewhere before.  I was going to say look in the Lewisohn book but that may be for a later volume!

                          This is a photo of Pattie Boyd Harrison with a cat she and George had.    Not sure what year.   Paul has been pictured with kittens and cats, and John & Yoko had cats at the Dakota in New York, so cats seem to be popular Beatle pets!  Ringo probably has had them as pets too.

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                          • Fan4-45years
                            Fan4-45years last edited by

                            oobu24 wrote:

                            These are cute with the 2 famous guys in her life.

                            Cool pictures of Patti and her famous loves.

                            Atlanta, GA, Omni, George Harrison, Thanksgiving 1974
                            Atlanta, GA, Paul and Linda McCartney, May 1, 1993
                            Missoula, MT, (sound check), Paul McCartney, August 5, 2014
                            Cleveland, OH, Ringo's Rock Hall Induction, April 18, 2015

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                            • Nancy R
                              Nancy R last edited by

                              Pattie, Cynthia, Maureen and Jenny (Boyd)

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                              • SusyLuvsPaul
                                SusyLuvsPaul last edited by

                                love2travel wrote:

                                Nancy R wrote:

                                love2travel wrote:

                                LadyLeslie wrote:

                                Nancy R wrote:

                                At Mike & Angie's wedding June 7, 1968

                                https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v319/njr/Paul%20McCartney%20and%20The%20Beatles/296E5E95-C63A-4917-9038-361E5EA24A2B_zpscfj6zeqw.jpeg

                                Great photo!  It's amazing to think that just a few weeks later he'd be with Linda in LA.... then Francie that summer..... If he wasn't a Beatle he'd have been good at flipping houses     But we him.

                                He flips houses? I've never heard that before?

                                No, it was a joke! He "flipped" women so much he might have been good at flipping houses! 😂

                                Sort of like pancakes? 😄 You're funny...

                                I read Peggy Lipton's book in which she describes her on/off rather sporadic affair with Paul, and according to her, he didn't treat her all that well. Ditto Francie Schwartz's book in which she describes him being rather cavilier and cold at times with her.  He seems to have been the nicest with Maggie McGivern, but he didn't break up with Jane to openly date Maggie, during their three year affair behind Jane's back. As someone mentioned, he had gotten used to many girls throwing themselves at him...they all did. Or as used as you can get, to a constant barrage of fervent semi-hysterical attention like that.  Asher was so self-confident, thought so well of herself (as she should have, actually) that she seemed oblivious to his "extra" romantic activities on the side. It came as a shock to her. I've sometime wondered why, though. The Beatles' women didn't get suspicious and wonder how they acted with their franticallly adoringfemale fans, on their tours? I would have wondered, and asked questions.  I too might have got whiplash from looking the other way, LOL. Wanting to hold onto him so letting him have his fun. If that's what went down. What do y'all think.

                                I also read Pattie  Boyd's book. She wrote that Eric often didn't treat her all that well (for one thing, he had affairs and fathered children behind her back !) as if once he finally won her, he started to take her for granted, a lot of the time. He treated their wedding as a drunken joke. She wrote that George wasn't all that kind and considerate to her towards the end. She was honest, wrote that she partied hard along with them. I always thought Pattie seemed like a sweet, pleasant person.

                                In that big color picture of Pattie, Cynthia, Maureen and Pattie's sister they're all wearing whimsical fashions designed and made by The Fool.

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                                • SusyLuvsPaul
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                                  In a book I read by his friend Alistair Taylor, he wrote Paul was upset when Jane broke up with him and ended it. Jane had told Paul she was the only one who really knew him. To the others, he was basically just a famous big pop star, she said to him.  And that got to him. He felt that he'd really lost a great deal when she broke off their engagement.  He really suffered over it, for awhile.

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                                  • Nancy R
                                    Nancy R last edited by

                                    SusyLuvsPaul wrote:

                                    love2travel wrote:

                                    Nancy R wrote:

                                    love2travel wrote:

                                    LadyLeslie wrote:

                                    Nancy R wrote:

                                    At Mike & Angie's wedding June 7, 1968

                                    https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v319/njr/Paul%20McCartney%20and%20The%20Beatles/296E5E95-C63A-4917-9038-361E5EA24A2B_zpscfj6zeqw.jpeg

                                    Great photo!  It's amazing to think that just a few weeks later he'd be with Linda in LA.... then Francie that summer..... If he wasn't a Beatle he'd have been good at flipping houses     But we him.

                                    He flips houses? I've never heard that before?

                                    No, it was a joke! He "flipped" women so much he might have been good at flipping houses! 😂

                                    Sort of like pancakes? 😄 You're funny...

                                    I read Peggy Lipton's book in which she describes her on/off rather sporadic affair with Paul, and according to her, he didn't treat her all that well. Ditto Francie Schwartz's book in which she describes him being rather cavilier and cold at times with her.  He seems to have been the nicest with Maggie McGivern, but he didn't break up with Jane to openly date Maggie, during their three year affair behind Jane's back. As someone mentioned, he had gotten used to many girls throwing themselves at him...they all did. Or as used as you can get, to a constant barrage of fervent semi-hysterical attention like that.  Asher was so self-confident, thought so well of herself (as she should have, actually) that she seemed oblivious to his "extra" romantic activities on the side. It came as a shock to her. I've sometime wondered why, though. The Beatles' women didn't get suspicious and wonder how they acted with their franticallly adoringfemale fans, on their tours? I would have wondered, and asked questions.  I too might have got whiplash from looking the other way, LOL. Wanting to hold onto him so letting him have his fun. If that's what went down. What do y'all think.

                                    I also read Pattie  Boyd's book. She wrote that Eric often didn't treat her all that well (for one thing, he had affairs and fathered children behind her back !) as if once he finally won her, he started to take her for granted, a lot of the time. He treated their wedding as a drunken joke. She wrote that George wasn't all that kind and considerate to her towards the end. She was honest, wrote that she partied hard along with them. I always thought Pattie seemed like a sweet, pleasant person.

                                    In that big color picture of Pattie, Cynthia, Maureen and Pattie's sister they're all wearing whimsical fashions designed and made by The Fool.

                                    Like I wrote in the other thread, Paul and Peggy were hardly an affair - he had sex with her twice - in Aug. 1964 when she was still 17, and Aug. 1965. He treated her nicely then, even inviting her to dinner at the house in Bel Air they had rented in 1965, much to John's dismay! He openly was pissed at Paul for doing that! Then in June 1968 was when Paul treated her shabbily by calling her ( Linda was already there with him at the Beverly Hills hotel) and leading her on. When she said she didn't want any other girls around, he told her there was "just a female photographer" there! 😳 I felt sorry for Peggy when Paul walks out the next morning with Linda, and walks right past her without saying a word. Peggy wrote in lipstick on the bathroom mirror "YOU MADE YOUR CHOICE!"

                                    All the wives plus Jane knew what was going on. They chose for a time to ignore it. I read Pattie's book too. Both George and Eric cheated on her. (George famously with Maureen, Ringo's wife!)  George cheated on Olivia too - she talked about the "hiccups" in their marriage in the 2011 Spielberg documentary "Living In the Material World." P.S. I met Pattie and Jenny in 2016 during Beatleweek in Liverpool and they were both very nice. Here's the b&w of that photo that Mark Lewisohn showed during his interview with Pattie & Jenny at that Beatleweek in 2016:

                                    Omni, Atlanta, GA May 18, 1976, Feb. 17, 1990

                                    GA Dome, Atlanta, GA May 1, 1993

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                                    FedEx Forum, Memphis, TN May 26, 2013

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                                    Infinite Energy Center, Duluth, GA July 13, 2017

                                    Bon Secours Arena, Greenville, SC May 30, 2019

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                                    • Nancy R
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                                      Sept. 19, 1967 (or another source said Oct. 18, 1967!) wearing same yellow silk tie he wore to marry Linda!

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                                      GA Dome, Atlanta, GA May 1, 1993

                                      Philips Arena, Atlanta, GA May 12, 2002

                                      FedEx Forum, Memphis, TN May 26, 2013

                                      Philips Arena, Atlanta, GA Oct. 15, 2014

                                      Infinite Energy Center, Duluth, GA July 13, 2017

                                      Bon Secours Arena, Greenville, SC May 30, 2019

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                                      • Kestrel
                                        Kestrel last edited by

                                        Nancy R wrote:

                                        Sept. 19, 1967 (or another source said Oct. 18, 1967!)

                                        Probably was October 18th 1967 as the Beatles (with wives and girlfriend) attended the London premier of 'How I Won The War' on that date. September 19th they were in Kent filming Magical Mystery Tour at West Malling Air Station. Paul and Jane could have gone out that evening as well but of the two dates, October 18th is the most likely.

                                        Wembley Empire Pool, London  (Wings) 21st October 1976.

                                        'Take It Away' video shoot Elstree studios, London 23rd June 1982.

                                        'Give My Regards To Broad Street' film premier, London 29th November 1984.

                                        Docklands Arena rehearsal concert, London 5th February 1993.

                                        Run Devil Run launch party, Equinox Club, London 30th September 1999.

                                        O2 Arena, London 22nd December 2009.

                                        O2 Arena, London 5th December 2011.

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                                        • love2travel
                                          love2travel last edited by

                                          SusyLuvsPaul wrote:

                                          love2travel wrote:

                                          Nancy R wrote:

                                          love2travel wrote:

                                          LadyLeslie wrote:

                                          Nancy R wrote:

                                          At Mike & Angie's wedding June 7, 1968

                                          https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v319/njr/Paul%20McCartney%20and%20The%20Beatles/296E5E95-C63A-4917-9038-361E5EA24A2B_zpscfj6zeqw.jpeg

                                          Great photo!  It's amazing to think that just a few weeks later he'd be with Linda in LA.... then Francie that summer..... If he wasn't a Beatle he'd have been good at flipping houses     But we him.

                                          He flips houses? I've never heard that before?

                                          No, it was a joke! He "flipped" women so much he might have been good at flipping houses! 😂

                                          Sort of like pancakes? 😄 You're funny...

                                          I read Peggy Lipton's book in which she describes her on/off rather sporadic affair with Paul, and according to her, he didn't treat her all that well. Ditto Francie Schwartz's book in which she describes him being rather cavilier and cold at times with her.  He seems to have been the nicest with Maggie McGivern, but he didn't break up with Jane to openly date Maggie, during their three year affair behind Jane's back. As someone mentioned, he had gotten used to many girls throwing themselves at him...they all did. Or as used as you can get, to a constant barrage of fervent semi-hysterical attention like that.  Asher was so self-confident, thought so well of herself (as she should have, actually) that she seemed oblivious to his "extra" romantic activities on the side. It came as a shock to her. I've sometime wondered why, though. The Beatles' women didn't get suspicious and wonder how they acted with their franticallly adoringfemale fans, on their tours? I would have wondered, and asked questions.  I too might have got whiplash from looking the other way, LOL. Wanting to hold onto him so letting him have his fun. If that's what went down. What do y'all think.

                                          I also read Pattie  Boyd's book. She wrote that Eric often didn't treat her all that well (for one thing, he had affairs and fathered children behind her back !) as if once he finally won her, he started to take her for granted, a lot of the time. He treated their wedding as a drunken joke. She wrote that George wasn't all that kind and considerate to her towards the end. She was honest, wrote that she partied hard along with them. I always thought Pattie seemed like a sweet, pleasant person.

                                          In that big color picture of Pattie, Cynthia, Maureen and Pattie's sister they're all wearing whimsical fashions designed and made by The Fool.

                                          Is there a color picture of the Fool's whimsical fashions? So sad this is in Black and White because I know they must have been very colorful.

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                                          • SusyLuvsPaul
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                                            Luvs2Travel, there's a big color photo of the Beatles' girls in Fool fashions just a few posts down from this...scroll down

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