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      Greenmetalsuit last edited by

      So, now we have had 13 issues of the archive series -

      2010 - band on the run

      2011 - McCartney and McCartney II

      2012 - Ram

      2013 - Wings over America

      2014 - Venus & Mars and Wings at the speed of sound

      2015 - Tug of War & Pipes of peace

      2017 - Flowrers in the dirt

      2018 - RRS and Wild life

      2020 - Flaming pie.

      I have got 7 out of the 13 on the new 2CD issue, which is the most affordable standard for new material. 
      I'm wondering if you had a choice of a 'super deluxe' issue, then which one would you choose? I want answers based on new material rather than quality, as I have all vinyl and original CD releases. I want to start saving for the super deluxe editions and want to know what I'm missing out on??

      If I had some more time to spend, then I guess I'd be with you my friend.

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      • Nancy R
        Nancy R last edited by

        I should be able to answer this, since I have all the deluxe versions except Wings At The Speed of Sound (won the 2 CD set in a Beatles trivia contest) but I can't. It's like trying to pick your favorite child! 😂

        Omni, Atlanta, GA May 18, 1976, Feb. 17, 1990

        GA Dome, Atlanta, GA May 1, 1993

        Philips Arena, Atlanta, GA May 12, 2002

        FedEx Forum, Memphis, TN May 26, 2013

        Philips Arena, Atlanta, GA Oct. 15, 2014

        Infinite Energy Center, Duluth, GA July 13, 2017

        Bon Secours Arena, Greenville, SC May 30, 2019

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        • oobu24
          oobu24 last edited by

          I have all of them too & it is hard to pick a favorite. All depends on which songs you like best. You should go for the ones that you don't have the 2 cd versions of.

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          • Nancy R
            Nancy R last edited by

            oobu24 wrote:

            I have all of them too & it is hard to pick a favorite. All depends on which songs you like best. You should go for the ones that you don't have the 2 cd versions of.

            I think he wanted to know which one had the better content (extras) Not sure if he was also referring to the books, etc.

            But I agree, he should get the ones he doesn't have the 2 CD versions of even.

            Omni, Atlanta, GA May 18, 1976, Feb. 17, 1990

            GA Dome, Atlanta, GA May 1, 1993

            Philips Arena, Atlanta, GA May 12, 2002

            FedEx Forum, Memphis, TN May 26, 2013

            Philips Arena, Atlanta, GA Oct. 15, 2014

            Infinite Energy Center, Duluth, GA July 13, 2017

            Bon Secours Arena, Greenville, SC May 30, 2019

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            • oobu24
              oobu24 last edited by

              Nancy R wrote:

              oobu24 wrote:

              I have all of them too & it is hard to pick a favorite. All depends on which songs you like best. You should go for the ones that you don't have the 2 cd versions of.

              I think he wanted to know which one had the better content (extras) Not sure if he was also referring to the books, etc.

              But I agree, he should get the ones he doesn't have the 2 CD versions of even.

              Yes, I guess neither of us gave him the answer (see what I did there).  

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              • Nancy R
                Nancy R last edited by

                oobu24 wrote:

                Nancy R wrote:

                oobu24 wrote:

                I have all of them too & it is hard to pick a favorite. All depends on which songs you like best. You should go for the ones that you don't have the 2 cd versions of.

                I think he wanted to know which one had the better content (extras) Not sure if he was also referring to the books, etc.

                But I agree, he should get the ones he doesn't have the 2 CD versions of even.

                Yes, I guess neither of us gave him the answer (see what I did there).  

                😂

                Omni, Atlanta, GA May 18, 1976, Feb. 17, 1990

                GA Dome, Atlanta, GA May 1, 1993

                Philips Arena, Atlanta, GA May 12, 2002

                FedEx Forum, Memphis, TN May 26, 2013

                Philips Arena, Atlanta, GA Oct. 15, 2014

                Infinite Energy Center, Duluth, GA July 13, 2017

                Bon Secours Arena, Greenville, SC May 30, 2019

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                • love2travel
                  love2travel last edited by

                  Greenmetalsuit wrote:

                  So, now we have had 13 issues of the archive series -

                  2010 - band on the run

                  2011 - McCartney and McCartney II

                  2012 - Ram

                  2013 - Wings over America

                  2014 - Venus & Mars and Wings at the speed of sound

                  2015 - Tug of War & Pipes of peace

                  2017 - Flowrers in the dirt

                  2018 - RRS and Wild life

                  2020 - Flaming pie.

                  I have got 7 out of the 13 on the new 2CD issue, which is the most affordable standard for new material. 
                  I'm wondering if you had a choice of a 'super deluxe' issue, then which one would you choose? I want answers based on new material rather than quality, as I have all vinyl and original CD releases. I want to start saving for the super deluxe editions and want to know what I'm missing out on??

                  My two favorite deluxe sets are RAM, which had so many personal memories around the making of that album. Beautiful materials, personal item such as artworks from the children and just chock a block full of items that made you think of that album.

                  The other deluxe album was for Electric Arguments. The metal pizza box, the hand written note, the art project with Youth. It was so well thought out.

                  Joy to the World - Peace on Earth - We are all ONE

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                  • Kestrel
                    Kestrel last edited by

                    It's easier to answer which one to avoid, which is Band On The Run. Apparently nothing exists in the archives with regards to the original sessions and this is reflected by the disappointing track selection of the Deluxe Edition. Typically Wings best album is the one that is so poorly served.

                    Wembley Empire Pool, London  (Wings) 21st October 1976.

                    'Take It Away' video shoot Elstree studios, London 23rd June 1982.

                    'Give My Regards To Broad Street' film premier, London 29th November 1984.

                    Docklands Arena rehearsal concert, London 5th February 1993.

                    Run Devil Run launch party, Equinox Club, London 30th September 1999.

                    O2 Arena, London 22nd December 2009.

                    O2 Arena, London 5th December 2011.

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                    • oobu24
                      oobu24 last edited by

                      Kestrel wrote:

                      It's easier to answer which one to avoid, which is Band On The Run. Apparently nothing exists in the archives with regards to the original sessions and this is reflected by the disappointing track selection of the Deluxe Edition. Typically Wings best album is the one that is so poorly served.

                      That is the only one that I did not buy. It had a previous special release for the 25th anniversary which I bought.

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                      • Nancy R
                        Nancy R last edited by

                        I didn't even know Electric Arguments had a deluxe set!

                        Omni, Atlanta, GA May 18, 1976, Feb. 17, 1990

                        GA Dome, Atlanta, GA May 1, 1993

                        Philips Arena, Atlanta, GA May 12, 2002

                        FedEx Forum, Memphis, TN May 26, 2013

                        Philips Arena, Atlanta, GA Oct. 15, 2014

                        Infinite Energy Center, Duluth, GA July 13, 2017

                        Bon Secours Arena, Greenville, SC May 30, 2019

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                        • SusyLuvsPaul
                          SusyLuvsPaul last edited by

                          I didn't know "Electric Arguments" got the deluxe remastered treatment either, until I saw that vid. The guy in the vid said they wouldn't make that fine heavy metal box for one today; that was a one shot deal. I always wondered if Macca titled his album "Electric Arguments" inspired by some spirited debates (fighting, actually, sometimes) going on, on the message boards at that time.  I must admit to being. during that period,  like a rabid pitbull at times insisting on no over the top criticism of Macca and his work-- I was one of the ringleaders in the fighting.  I remember a poster asserting, "these message board forums aren't for Macca, they're for the fans." I sort of regret being like that, back then.  So dogmatic and overly protective. Some of my fervor, my passion resulted from pent up frustrations; I'd wanted to participate at Paul's website for a long time, but was dissuaded by Heather M. being part of it then. I don't know why I felt so put off by that. Almost as if afraid of her, LOL.  I got weirded out some by EA. I wasn't familiar with his "Fireman" experimental ambient music persona or the other Fireman albums. That odd reaction was a good thing,  as it meant being exposed to something different and new, learning about (to me) a new kind of music. Electronica, sort of, I guess you could call it.  I still don't completely understand it, but that's a positive, having always sought out and needed variety and novelty. I never could have participated in all night "rave" parties set to endless electronica while waving glow sticks, though;  I'd have fallen out from exhaustion (laughs) after awhile.  I think it would have gotten on my nerves. Especially if fueled  by "molly" and "ecstasy" and the like, which have killed some people.  Went off on another digressive diatribe. Sorry.

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                            B J Conlee last edited by

                            I have only bought the special 2 Disc versions of all the Archive Editions that in the US were sold at Target.  I also bought the first one...Band on the Run that was sold at Best Buy I believe.  BOTR had 2 Discs plus the DVD.  I loved the DVD because it contained most of the 'One Hand Clapping" Show.  It was great seeing and hearing Paul/Band performing "live"the big BOTR hits plus songs like Soily, Little Woman Love, Let's Love (Paul had written it for Peggy Lee Pre Beatles), All of You, I'll Give You a Ring, Baby Face.  That was also the first time I saw Paul performing 1985 from BOTR which was a great "live" version.  For the great price of like $20. at Best Buy that was probably my favorite package.

                            As far at the other 2 Disc Archive sets,  my next favorite would easily be the 2018 Red Rose Speedway set because Disc 2  was filled with complete,high quality songs (no snippets of songs)  like Best Friend, the Mess, I Lie Around, Night Out, Country Dreamer, Seaside Woman, Mama's Little Girl, I Would Only Smile (Denny Laine), Tragedy, Thank You Darling, Live and Let Die, and 1882.

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                            • love2travel
                              love2travel last edited by

                              SusyLuvsPaul wrote:

                              I didn't know "Electric Arguments" got the deluxe remastered treatment either, until I saw that vid. The guy in the vid said they wouldn't make that fine heavy metal box for one today; that was a one shot deal. I always wondered if Macca titled his album "Electric Arguments" inspired by some spirited debates (fighting, actually, sometimes) going on, on the message boards at that time.  I must admit to being. during that period,  like a rabid pitbull at times insisting on no over the top criticism of Macca and his work-- I was one of the ringleaders in the fighting.  I remember a poster asserting, "these message board forums aren't for Macca, they're for the fans." I sort of regret being like that, back then.  So dogmatic and overly protective. Some of my fervor, my passion resulted from pent up frustrations; I'd wanted to participate at Paul's website for a long time, but was dissuaded by Heather M. being part of it then. I don't know why I felt so put off by that. Almost as if afraid of her, LOL.  I got weirded out some by EA. I wasn't familiar with his "Fireman" experimental ambient music persona or the other Fireman albums. That odd reaction was a good thing,  as it meant being exposed to something different and new, learning about (to me) a new kind of music. Electronica, sort of, I guess you could call it.  I still don't completely understand it, but that's a positive, having always sought out and needed variety and novelty. I never could have participated in all night "rave" parties set to endless electronica while waving glow sticks, though;  I'd have fallen out from exhaustion (laughs) after awhile.  I think it would have gotten on my nerves. Especially if fueled  by "molly" and "ecstasy" and the like, which have killed some people.  Went off on another digressive diatribe. Sorry.

                              Susy I'm thinking that at the time of the album release, it was decided that most likely the name would have possibly been influenced by the book

                              Van Gogh And Gauguin: Electric Arguments And Utopian Dreams

                              Book by Bradley Collins

                              Van Gogh and Gauguin lived and painted together for two months and their stormy relationship is still of interest to many today.  "After what Gauguin claimed was an attempt to attack him with a razor, van Gogh reportedly mutilated his own left ear.  Gauguin then left for Paris after a stay of only two months."

                              Joy to the World - Peace on Earth - We are all ONE

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                              • Rockerdude
                                Rockerdude last edited by

                                oobu24 wrote:

                                Kestrel wrote:

                                It's easier to answer which one to avoid, which is Band On The Run. Apparently nothing exists in the archives with regards to the original sessions and this is reflected by the disappointing track selection of the Deluxe Edition. Typically Wings best album is the one that is so poorly served.

                                That is the only one that I did not buy. It had a previous special release for the 25th anniversary which I bought.

                                Same w/ me. I only purchased the 2cd/dvd Archive. Purchasing the full box would of been redundant & expensive. By far his best Wings album however I agree w/ Kestrel in that the Archive release is disappointing as compared to the other Archives.

                                Toronto - Exhibition Stadium 06/06/93
                                Toronto - Air Canada Centre 06/13/02
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                                • Nancy R
                                  Nancy R last edited by

                                  Rockerdude wrote:

                                  oobu24 wrote:

                                  Kestrel wrote:

                                  It's easier to answer which one to avoid, which is Band On The Run. Apparently nothing exists in the archives with regards to the original sessions and this is reflected by the disappointing track selection of the Deluxe Edition. Typically Wings best album is the one that is so poorly served.

                                  That is the only one that I did not buy. It had a previous special release for the 25th anniversary which I bought.

                                  Same w/ me. I only purchased the 2cd/dvd Archive. Purchasing the full box would of been redundant & expensive. By far his best Wings album however I agree w/ Kestrel in that the Archive release is disappointing as compared to the other Archives.

                                  Hey man, long time no hear! It's been forever since you've posted! 
                                  I may have already asked you this, but who is the guy in your avatar? Every time I see it I think it's David Boreanaz (Buffy, Angel, Bones, SEAL Team) but I know it's not!

                                  Omni, Atlanta, GA May 18, 1976, Feb. 17, 1990

                                  GA Dome, Atlanta, GA May 1, 1993

                                  Philips Arena, Atlanta, GA May 12, 2002

                                  FedEx Forum, Memphis, TN May 26, 2013

                                  Philips Arena, Atlanta, GA Oct. 15, 2014

                                  Infinite Energy Center, Duluth, GA July 13, 2017

                                  Bon Secours Arena, Greenville, SC May 30, 2019

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                                  • Rockerdude
                                    Rockerdude last edited by

                                    Nancy R wrote:

                                    Rockerdude wrote:

                                    oobu24 wrote:

                                    Kestrel wrote:

                                    It's easier to answer which one to avoid, which is Band On The Run. Apparently nothing exists in the archives with regards to the original sessions and this is reflected by the disappointing track selection of the Deluxe Edition. Typically Wings best album is the one that is so poorly served.

                                    That is the only one that I did not buy. It had a previous special release for the 25th anniversary which I bought.

                                    Same w/ me. I only purchased the 2cd/dvd Archive. Purchasing the full box would of been redundant & expensive. By far his best Wings album however I agree w/ Kestrel in that the Archive release is disappointing as compared to the other Archives.

                                    Hey man, long time no hear! It's been forever since you've posted! 
                                    I may have already asked you this, but who is the guy in your avatar? Every time I see it I think it's David Boreanaz (Buffy, Angel, Bones, SEAL Team) but I know it's not!

                                    Canadian recording artist "Roch Voisine" check him out on Youtube; I think you may enjoy his music particularly the albums I'll Always be There & Kissing Rain. Thanks for asking about my avatar. Oh! It's summer & I've been spending quite a bit of time outside gardening, landscaping as we recentlly moved into our dream home that we built on the shores of Georgian Bay 90 minutes north of Toronto. Enjoy reading you posts as well as those of the other Fans. I really like the picture thread as I often save them on my Pinterest "Paul McCartney Friends & Family" Keep Well & safe. Cheers. Andy

                                    Toronto - Exhibition Stadium 06/06/93
                                    Toronto - Air Canada Centre 06/13/02
                                    Toronto - Air Canada Centre 08/08/10
                                    Toronto - Air Canada Centre 10/15/15
                                    Hamilton - FirstOntario Centre 07/21/16

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                                    • Nancy R
                                      Nancy R last edited by

                                      Rockerdude wrote:

                                      Nancy R wrote:

                                      Rockerdude wrote:

                                      oobu24 wrote:

                                      Kestrel wrote:

                                      It's easier to answer which one to avoid, which is Band On The Run. Apparently nothing exists in the archives with regards to the original sessions and this is reflected by the disappointing track selection of the Deluxe Edition. Typically Wings best album is the one that is so poorly served.

                                      That is the only one that I did not buy. It had a previous special release for the 25th anniversary which I bought.

                                      Same w/ me. I only purchased the 2cd/dvd Archive. Purchasing the full box would of been redundant & expensive. By far his best Wings album however I agree w/ Kestrel in that the Archive release is disappointing as compared to the other Archives.

                                      Hey man, long time no hear! It's been forever since you've posted! 
                                      I may have already asked you this, but who is the guy in your avatar? Every time I see it I think it's David Boreanaz (Buffy, Angel, Bones, SEAL Team) but I know it's not!

                                      Canadian recording artist "Roch Voisine" check him out on Youtube; I think you may enjoy his music particularly the albums I'll Always be There & Kissing Rain. Thanks for asking about my avatar. Oh! It's summer & I've been spending quite a bit of time outside gardening, landscaping as we recentlly moved into our dream home that we built on the shores of Georgian Bay 90 minutes north of Toronto. Enjoy reading you posts as well as those of the other Fans. I really like the picture thread as I often save them on my Pinterest "Paul McCartney Friends & Family" Keep Well & safe. Cheers. Andy

                                      Thanks Andy! Will have to check him out!

                                      Omni, Atlanta, GA May 18, 1976, Feb. 17, 1990

                                      GA Dome, Atlanta, GA May 1, 1993

                                      Philips Arena, Atlanta, GA May 12, 2002

                                      FedEx Forum, Memphis, TN May 26, 2013

                                      Philips Arena, Atlanta, GA Oct. 15, 2014

                                      Infinite Energy Center, Duluth, GA July 13, 2017

                                      Bon Secours Arena, Greenville, SC May 30, 2019

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                                        bmorales last edited by

                                        SusyLuvsPaul wrote:

                                        I didn't know "Electric Arguments" got the deluxe remastered treatment either, until I saw that vid. The guy in the vid said they wouldn't make that fine heavy metal box for one today; that was a one shot deal. I always wondered if Macca titled his album "Electric Arguments" inspired by some spirited debates (fighting, actually, sometimes) going on, on the message boards at that time.  I must admit to being. during that period,  like a rabid pitbull at times insisting on no over the top criticism of Macca and his work-- I was one of the ringleaders in the fighting.  I remember a poster asserting, "these message board forums aren't for Macca, they're for the fans." I sort of regret being like that, back then.  So dogmatic and overly protective. Some of my fervor, my passion resulted from pent up frustrations; I'd wanted to participate at Paul's website for a long time, but was dissuaded by Heather M. being part of it then. I don't know why I felt so put off by that. Almost as if afraid of her, LOL.  I got weirded out some by EA. I wasn't familiar with his "Fireman" experimental ambient music persona or the other Fireman albums. That odd reaction was a good thing,  as it meant being exposed to something different and new, learning about (to me) a new kind of music. Electronica, sort of, I guess you could call it.  I still don't completely understand it, but that's a positive, having always sought out and needed variety and novelty. I never could have participated in all night "rave" parties set to endless electronica while waving glow sticks, though;  I'd have fallen out from exhaustion (laughs) after awhile.  I think it would have gotten on my nerves. Especially if fueled  by "molly" and "ecstasy" and the like, which have killed some people.  Went off on another digressive diatribe. Sorry.

                                        This one didn't get the "deluxe" treatment i.e. and archive release. This was the deluxe version  released at the time. The stems disc was a nice touch.

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