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    • yankeefan7
      yankeefan7 last edited by

      I know I am in the minority but I actually liked the song when it was played live and thought Hamish did good job on his vocal. My questions is does anybody think it would be a good song to play live now and have Abe do the Stevie Wonder vocal.

      Maybe I'm amazed !!

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      • DrivinFan
        DrivinFan last edited by

        Yes...heard it in soundcheck a couple of years ago...sounded very good!

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        • oobu24
          oobu24 last edited by

          NO...I don't like that song! Actually I don't care for many of his duos. Gimme Paul...just Paul.

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            admin last edited by

            A duet with Abe on that song is definitely a good idea. Abe might upstage him, though.

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            • Bruce M.
              Bruce M. last edited by

              I wouldn't mind, but there are several dozen less famous songs that would be on my list to add to the show before E&I.

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                rich n last edited by

                Bruce M.:

                I wouldn't mind, but there are several dozen less famous songs that would be on my list to add to the show before E&I.

                Pretty much how I feel - I wouldn't be disappointed with the addition of E & I, but have a number of other songs I'd chose first (from all eras - Beatles, Wings, Solo, Fireman) that I'd chose first if I were asked to draw up a list)...For some reason, the two Beatle songs I'd like to hear (that he hasn't played yet) are two White Album song; Martha My Dear and Rocky Raccoon...then there are a number of Wings songs (Silly Love Songs would be the one big hit, then a number of lesser known, but great album tracks)...A cool track that would come out of nowhere would be Footprints from Press to Play...This One, Mistress and Maid, The World Tonight, Somedays, Souvenir...if he played Rocky Raccoon, he could follow that with Movie Magg (although not originally his song)...then there are a ton of post 2000 songs he could play

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                • yankeefan7
                  yankeefan7 last edited by

                  Bruce M.:

                  I wouldn't mind, but there are several dozen less famous songs that would be on my list to add to the show before E&I.

                  I agree but Mr. McCartney seems to be concerned about playing the "hits" and this was definitely a hit single.

                  Maybe I'm amazed !!

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                    B J Conlee last edited by

                    I thought that Ebony and Ivory was the highlight of the White House Performance that Paul did a few years ago. Stevie Wonder was one of the musical guests for the concert in front of the President, First Lady and many other dignitaries. When they started to sing E & I, my first thought was that this could sound awful. To my surprise, they sounded great together espcially considering it had been 30 plus years since they sang E&I. It was also good to see the two of them hugging when the song ended. They seem to have genuine respect for each other and a genuine friendship. I still think that E&I is a good song. Yes, people find the lyrics kind of simple and sentimental, but it certainly has a positive universal message. The song just got so overplayed that people (especially non-Paul fans) got sick of it. It then became one of a handful of songs for anti-Paul critics to use as their example of Paul's mediore and spotty Post Beatles' work. They, of course, fail to look at "all" of the good to great Solo songs. Like Bruce, there are many other Paul solo songs I would like to be added to the Setlist over E & I.

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                      admin last edited by

                      I wish people would not dismiss hit songs from 30 years ago as being "overplayed." No songs have been more "overplayed" than Beatle songs, and the set list is full of those. If a song is overplayed, it is because it is loved and people wanted to hear it a lot.

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                        rich n last edited by

                        RMartinez:

                        I wish people would not dismiss hit songs from 30 years ago as being "overplayed." No songs have been more "overplayed" than Beatle songs, and the set list is full of those. If a song is overplayed, it is because it is loved and people wanted to hear it a lot.

                        From a radio play perspective, Ebony and Ivory was most definitely overplayed...of course the same can't be said for live performances since it was only featured during one leg of one tour, then never played again save for a one off performance in front of the President of the United States while sharing the vocals with his original duet partner...I'd almost guess that performing E and I at the White House was secondary to having Stevie Wonder come and perform some of the Beatle songs he was noted for covering in the past (kind of an opportunistic after thought)

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                          admin last edited by

                          rich n:

                          RMartinez:

                          I wish people would not dismiss hit songs from 30 years ago as being "overplayed." No songs have been more "overplayed" than Beatle songs, and the set list is full of those. If a song is overplayed, it is because it is loved and people wanted to hear it a lot.

                          From a radio play perspective, Ebony and Ivory was most definitely overplayed...of course the same can't be said for live performances since it was only featured during one leg of one tour, then never played again save for a one off performance in front of the President of the United States while sharing the vocals with his original duet partner...I'd almost guess that performing E and I at the White House was secondary to having Stevie Wonder come and perform some of the Beatle songs he was noted for covering in the past (kind of an opportunistic after thought)

                          Good point. I just never hear this excuse being used for other artists. Like, The Stones never play Satisfaction, because it was overplayed. Or Elton John never plays Your Song because it was overplayed. I just wonder what the deal is with McCartney's solo career. He wrote those songs to be hits. I have never heard an artist say, "I hope my new song doesn't get overplayed." He seemed quite ok with it in 1976 and 1982 with SLS and E & I. Now he won't play them? That's called re-writing history!

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                            admin last edited by

                            Are you kidding? The Stones have been playing "Satisfaction" to death in their concerts! And whenever I bother to watch a full-length Elton John concert, you can bet your bottom-dollar that "Your Song" will be among the one-ballad-after-another songfest.

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                              audi:

                              Are you kidding? The Stones have been playing "Satisfaction" to death in their concerts! And whenever I bother to watch a full-length Elton John concert, you can bet your bottom-dollar that "Your Song" will be among the one-ballad-after-another songfest.

                              Do you even read my posts??? Ha ha! That is my whole point! The Stones play their overplayed hits and so does Elton John. The argument from some people seems to be that McCartney won't play SLS or E&I because they were overplayed. Which I think is nonsense. Now, the argument that I tend to agree with more is that Paul wants to disassociate himself from those types of songs because they make him out to be a light-weight pop tart. But why, then, did he put them out? Why not just keep them in a secret vault and put out Getting Closer, Girl's School, Junior's Farm, Letting Go, Beware My Love, and I've Had Enough?

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                                admin last edited by

                                I missed your nuance. My apologies. Oh, I'll come right out and say it: I WAS WRONG!!!!!!

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                                  admin last edited by

                                  audi:

                                  I missed your nuance. My apologies. Oh, I'll come right out and say it: I WAS WRONG!!!!!!

                                  Wow! Halleluiah!! It's a MIRACLE!!

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                                    • yankeefan7
                                      yankeefan7 last edited by

                                      RMartinez:

                                      I wish people would not dismiss hit songs from 30 years ago as being "overplayed." No songs have been more "overplayed" than Beatle songs, and the set list is full of those. If a song is overplayed, it is because it is loved and people wanted to hear it a lot.

                                      Was Ebony and Ivory" more overplayed than BOTR or "Jet" - lol?

                                      Maybe I'm amazed !!

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                                        admin last edited by

                                        yankeefan7:

                                        RMartinez:

                                        I wish people would not dismiss hit songs from 30 years ago as being "overplayed." No songs have been more "overplayed" than Beatle songs, and the set list is full of those. If a song is overplayed, it is because it is loved and people wanted to hear it a lot.

                                        Was Ebony and Ivory" more overplayed than BOTR or "Jet" - lol?

                                        Exactly!

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