Paul McCartney- New Album for 2023
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@yankeefan2 Where’s the “AGREE” button?
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@NJR Thanks for the article on Macca's total Album Sales. Very interesting with a bunch of surprises at least to this big time fan.
Where I wasn't surprised:
#1,2,3 at the peak of Paul's Solo Sales (Botr, Venus &Mars, At the Speed of Sound) did the best.The 70's was easily Paul's highest Sales Decade by a lot.
Paul's 1st album McCartney was #5 and Back to the Egg landed at #12. Wings Over America did very well too at #13.
Albums that surprisingly did poorly included Ram at #17, Chaos #19, and Flaming Pie at #21. Those last 3 shocked me. Ram did get terrible reviews in the beginning but you would have thought that with all resurgence Ram had over the last 10-15 years and the big Archive Release it would have been higher. Same thing with Flaming Pie. It also had the big Archive Release too.Yes I wasn't surprised that the Pure McCartney Compilation in 2016 compared to the other earlier Compilation's like Wingspan, All the Best, and Wingspan fared a lot worse. Conversely All the Best at #4 was shocking to me also
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London Town another 70's album also did well at # 8.
also Pipes of Peace did better than what you would think at #7. I guess it shows the relative strength of doing a collaboration with Michael Jackson ( Say, Say, Say) and it was on the album.
Tug of War came in at 8. Again, Paul had Stevie Wonder on the same album with the big hit.I think this article was probably written before 2018. This same article does not include Sales of Egypt Station or McCartney 3.
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@b-j-conlee said in Paul McCartney- New Album for 2023:
@NJR Thanks for the article on Macca's total Album Sales. Very interesting with a bunch of surprises at least to this big time fan.
Where I wasn't surprised:
#1,2,3 at the peak of Paul's Solo Sales (Botr, Venus &Mars, At the Speed of Sound) did the best.The 70's was easily Paul's highest Sales Decade by a lot.
Paul's 1st album McCartney was #5 and Back to the Egg landed at #12. Wings Over America did very well too at #13.
Albums that surprisingly did poorly included Ram at #17, Chaos #19, and Flaming Pie at #21. Those last 3 shocked me. Ram did get terrible reviews in the beginning but you would have thought that with all resurgence Ram had over the last 10-15 years and the big Archive Release it would have been higher. Same thing with Flaming Pie. It also had the big Archive Release too.Yes I wasn't surprised that the Pure McCartney Compilation in 2016 compared to the other earlier Compilation's like Wingspan, All the Best, and Wingspan fared a lot worse. Conversely All the Best at #4 was shocking to me also
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@b-j-conlee said in Paul McCartney- New Album for 2023:
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London Town another 70's album also did well at # 8.
also Pipes of Peace did better than what you would think at #7. I guess it shows the relative strength of doing a collaboration with Michael Jackson ( Say, Say, Say) and it was on the album.
Tug of War came in at 8. Again, Paul had Stevie Wonder on the same album with the big hit.I think this article was probably written before 2018. This same article does not include Sales of Egypt Station or McCartney 3.
Unfortunately it’s not dated, but you have to be right if those aren’t on the list.
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@njr said in Paul McCartney- New Album for 2023:
@b-j-conlee Only 2 of Paul’s albums sold worse than Pure McCartney. Who wants to guess which ones before looking at the link?
I cheated, and looked.... I'm astounded that the Unplugged was so low... I loved that.... Kisses on the Bottom?.... Nah... still don't like it... Trying too hard, and forced..
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Sales for CHAOS is not that surprising IMO. While the album was critically acclaimed, it was not a very commercial album. The mood of the album for the most part was pretty somber. "Fine Line" was pretty good single IMO but I don't think it did that well.
RAM sales are surprising to me mainly because "Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey" was I believe a #1 single.
"Flaming Pie" started the trend of what would happen in the future for most McCartney albums. It hit the charts at #2 and sadly faded quickly. There was no single from the album that was a hit, "The World Tonight" did not even make the top 50 on the charts.
"Pure McCartney" was thrown together with little thought. If there is not one song from FITD on it, you know it was not well done. IMO people who buy music today are really not into "Greatest Hits" type packages anymore.
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@yankeefan2 said in Paul McCartney- New Album for 2023:
Sales for CHAOS is not that surprising IMO. While the album was critically acclaimed, it was not a very commercial album. The mood of the album for the most part was pretty somber. "Fine Line" was pretty good single IMO but I don't think it did that well.
RAM sales are surprising to me mainly because "Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey" was I believe a #1 single.
"Flaming Pie" started the trend of what would happen in the future for most McCartney albums. It hit the charts at #2 and sadly faded quickly. There was no single from the album that was a hit, "The World Tonight" did not even make the top 50 on the charts.
"Pure McCartney" was thrown together with little thought. If there is not one song from FITD on it, you know it was not well done. IMO people who buy music today are really not into "Greatest Hits" type packages anymore.
Don't get me started on Flaming Pie.... the opening single in Australia was 'Young Boy', when clearly.... clearly... well, in my humble view... "Beautiful Night" was one of the best songs he had ready to rip... still, one of my faves!!... and I think in Australia, he decided to release it as the third single... a wasted opportunity... Beautiful Night was one of the greatest songs he had released since 1982.
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Thanks for your reply. As usual, you made great points. Between your post and Nancy's (with the link to McCartney's Sales for each Solo and Wings albums/cds) I'm starting to realize that I have to get "realistic" here. When I look at the unit sales for an album like 2013's "New" (which I thought was a very good album of totally new music) the unit sales of 134 K aren't even close to the units sold from Band on the Run, Venus &Mars and even At the Speed of Sound etc etc. It shows that consumers just aren't buying albums/ CDs like they used to especially from "aging rock and pop stars.Heck the new cars today don't even have CD players in them anymore. What does that tell you! The whole record industry has changed so much over the last 10 years. Your point is so valid about how Paul/MPL can't even think about my proposal of "Leftovers and Rarities " idea when it's so hard to get sales from albums with brand new material. Maybe someone on this Site could get accurate unit sales of Egypt Station and McCartney 3 (Paul's last 2 albums of totality new material).Yes l know I'm passionate but I must put this idea to
Bed. As much as I would like this idea of showcasing Macca's terrific unreleased and B-side tracks its not going to happen. It probably should have been tried in 2016 when Paul and MPL put out the wasted Pure McCartney compilation.still I'm wary about a few reports of Paul releasing a new album of new material with the young Producer Andrew Watt. I hope it does happen but my concern is still his voice. There was a good amount of criticism on Paul's vocals on both McCartney 3 and Egypt Station.
Enough venting for the moment. I need to get other more important things done.
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@b-j-conlee said in Paul McCartney- New Album for 2023:
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BJ, were you trying to post a photo? If just a link, all you have to do now is copy & paste. Don’t have to jump through hoops like on the old forum.
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@b-j-conlee said in Paul McCartney- New Album for 2023:
@b-j-conlee said in Paul McCartney- New Album for 2023:
@NJR Thanks for the article on Macca's total Album Sales. Very interesting with a bunch of surprises at least to this big time fan.
Where I wasn't surprised:
#1,2,3 at the peak of Paul's Solo Sales (Botr, Venus &Mars, At the Speed of Sound) did the best.The 70's was easily Paul's highest Sales Decade by a lot.
Paul's 1st album McCartney was #5 and Back to the Egg landed at #12. Wings Over America did very well too at #13.
Albums that surprisingly did poorly included Ram at #17, Chaos #19, and Flaming Pie at #21. Those last 3 shocked me. Ram did get terrible reviews in the beginning but you would have thought that with all resurgence Ram had over the last 10-15 years and the big Archive Release it would have been higher. Same thing with Flaming Pie. It also had the big Archive Release too.Yes I wasn't surprised that the Pure McCartney Compilation in 2016 compared to the other earlier Compilation's like Wingspan, All the Best, and Wingspan fared a lot worse. Conversely All the Best at #4 was shocking to me also
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A don't think anything beats his Wings stuff, except for his Beatles stuff. I believe Denny was the best influence on him, second only to John.
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@wandy said in Paul McCartney- New Album for 2023:
@b-j-conlee said in Paul McCartney- New Album for 2023:
@b-j-conlee said in Paul McCartney- New Album for 2023:
@NJR Thanks for the article on Macca's total Album Sales. Very interesting with a bunch of surprises at least to this big time fan.
Where I wasn't surprised:
#1,2,3 at the peak of Paul's Solo Sales (Botr, Venus &Mars, At the Speed of Sound) did the best.The 70's was easily Paul's highest Sales Decade by a lot.
Paul's 1st album McCartney was #5 and Back to the Egg landed at #12. Wings Over America did very well too at #13.
Albums that surprisingly did poorly included Ram at #17, Chaos #19, and Flaming Pie at #21. Those last 3 shocked me. Ram did get terrible reviews in the beginning but you would have thought that with all resurgence Ram had over the last 10-15 years and the big Archive Release it would have been higher. Same thing with Flaming Pie. It also had the big Archive Release too.Yes I wasn't surprised that the Pure McCartney Compilation in 2016 compared to the other earlier Compilation's like Wingspan, All the Best, and Wingspan fared a lot worse. Conversely All the Best at #4 was shocking to me also
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A don't think anything beats his Wings stuff, except for his Beatles stuff. I believe Denny was the best influence on him, second only to John.
I wonder though if Denny could talk to him the way John did and tell him if he thought something was shite? Always wondered what exactly caused Denny’s departure? Why did that Wings configuration break up - because of the Japan bust?
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Yep. Your idea would have been much better compilation than "Pure McCartney". The difference is you actually took the time and put some thought in your collection and MPL just threw something together really quick to make quick buck. B-sides, demo recordings and live versions are the things fans like me would want to have in a compilation of "deep cuts" and not the songs from "Pure McCartney". The commercial failure of "Pure McCartney" IMO doomed something you proposed for a compilation.
Seeing the artists Andrew Watt has produced for makes me a bit concerned. Why do I have the feeling there might be another song like "Fuh You" (lol) if he produces McCartney. Think McCartney would have learned his lesson when he did this song with Ryan Tedder in attempt to have a hit single.
Paul is not getting younger so concerns about his voice increase every day. Like I said earlier, there is only so much you can cover up in the studio.
One last thing before I go, it still frustrates me there is no news about the musical "It's A Wonderful Life" which McCartney stated he had already written 20 songs. Did they scrap the idea? Is it just delayed and maybe we will hear some news in 2023? I just find it strange that there has been no update in so long.
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IMO Denny could not talk to Paul like John did, totally different relationship. Look how Paul reacted to Nigel Godrich during the making of CHAOS when he told Paul something was not very good - lol. The 1979 Wings tour finished their run in the UK and then the Japan bust happened and plans of world tour ended. I believe McCartney then started doing songs for "McCartney II" and had no interest in touring with Wings. The other band members got tired of waiting for him and then left to do other things. Notice when Paul was interested in touring again in the late 80's, he had no interest in recruiting any former members of Wings for his touring band.
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@njr said in Paul McCartney- New Album for 2023:
@wandy said in Paul McCartney- New Album for 2023:
@b-j-conlee said in Paul McCartney- New Album for 2023:
@b-j-conlee said in Paul McCartney- New Album for 2023:
@NJR Thanks for the article on Macca's total Album Sales. Very interesting with a bunch of surprises at least to this big time fan.
Where I wasn't surprised:
#1,2,3 at the peak of Paul's Solo Sales (Botr, Venus &Mars, At the Speed of Sound) did the best.The 70's was easily Paul's highest Sales Decade by a lot.
Paul's 1st album McCartney was #5 and Back to the Egg landed at #12. Wings Over America did very well too at #13.
Albums that surprisingly did poorly included Ram at #17, Chaos #19, and Flaming Pie at #21. Those last 3 shocked me. Ram did get terrible reviews in the beginning but you would have thought that with all resurgence Ram had over the last 10-15 years and the big Archive Release it would have been higher. Same thing with Flaming Pie. It also had the big Archive Release too.Yes I wasn't surprised that the Pure McCartney Compilation in 2016 compared to the other earlier Compilation's like Wingspan, All the Best, and Wingspan fared a lot worse. Conversely All the Best at #4 was shocking to me also
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A don't think anything beats his Wings stuff, except for his Beatles stuff. I believe Denny was the best influence on him, second only to John.
I wonder though if Denny could talk to him the way John did and tell him if he thought something was shite? Always wondered what exactly caused Denny’s departure? Why did that Wings configuration break up - because of the Japan bust?
When I saw Denny being interviewed in the Adephi Hotel in Liverpool, he was very instant that he spoke to Paul as an equal. And I suspect Paul wanted it that way, too. I filmed that interview and have it on dvd. There are a few clips on YouTube of Denny talking sbout his time of working with Paul in Wings. You very much get the idea that he definitely didn't treat Paul as a superstar. As for the Wings break up? Well yes, I very much get the idea that Paul's Japan bust pissed everybody off, in Wings. They felt he got careless. Did Yoko tip off the authorities? How did she know Paul had drugs in his luggage? He was very lucky he coulda got 7 yrs jail time. Apparently he's written a book about it all, but not to be released till after his death. -
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@wandy said in Paul McCartney- New Album for 2023:
@njr said in Paul McCartney- New Album for 2023:
@wandy said in Paul McCartney- New Album for 2023:
@b-j-conlee said in Paul McCartney- New Album for 2023:
@b-j-conlee said in Paul McCartney- New Album for 2023:
@NJR Thanks for the article on Macca's total Album Sales. Very interesting with a bunch of surprises at least to this big time fan.
Where I wasn't surprised:
#1,2,3 at the peak of Paul's Solo Sales (Botr, Venus &Mars, At the Speed of Sound) did the best.The 70's was easily Paul's highest Sales Decade by a lot.
Paul's 1st album McCartney was #5 and Back to the Egg landed at #12. Wings Over America did very well too at #13.
Albums that surprisingly did poorly included Ram at #17, Chaos #19, and Flaming Pie at #21. Those last 3 shocked me. Ram did get terrible reviews in the beginning but you would have thought that with all resurgence Ram had over the last 10-15 years and the big Archive Release it would have been higher. Same thing with Flaming Pie. It also had the big Archive Release too.Yes I wasn't surprised that the Pure McCartney Compilation in 2016 compared to the other earlier Compilation's like Wingspan, All the Best, and Wingspan fared a lot worse. Conversely All the Best at #4 was shocking to me also
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A don't think anything beats his Wings stuff, except for his Beatles stuff. I believe Denny was the best influence on him, second only to John.
I wonder though if Denny could talk to him the way John did and tell him if he thought something was shite? Always wondered what exactly caused Denny’s departure? Why did that Wings configuration break up - because of the Japan bust?
When I saw Denny being interviewed in the Adephi Hotel in Liverpool, he was very instant that he spoke to Paul as an equal. And I suspect Paul wanted it that way, too. I filmed that interview and have it on dvd. There are a few clips on YouTube of Denny talking sbout his time of working with Paul in Wings. You very much get the idea that he definitely didn't treat Paul as a superstar. As for the Wings break up? Well yes, I very much get the idea that Paul's Japan bust pissed everybody off, in Wings. They felt he got careless. Did Yoko tip off the authorities? How did she know Paul had drugs in his luggage? He was very lucky he coulda got 7 yrs jail time. Apparently he's written a book about it all, but not to be released till after his death. -
@yankeefan2 said in Paul McCartney- New Album for 2023:
IMO Denny could not talk to Paul like John did, totally different relationship. Look how Paul reacted to Nigel Godrich during the making of CHAOS when he told Paul something was not very good - lol. The 1979 Wings tour finished their run in the UK and then the Japan bust happened and plans of world tour ended. I believe McCartney then started doing songs for "McCartney II" and had no interest in touring with Wings. The other band members got tired of waiting for him and then left to do other things. Notice when Paul was interested in touring again in the late 80's, he had no interest in recruiting any former members of Wings for his touring band.
Oh, yeah, that was quite obvious! But that’s Paul - he just does whatever pleases him because he can!
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@wandy Great video! Thanks for posting!
