I am done with this thread. People (including Paul) are not going to change their minds. It is over a month old and dead news to most people. Now that we have read he won't apologize that should be it. I'm going back to the music where politics is seldom mentioned. I'm going to do that instead of trying to be "holier than now" and critisize all points of view. Whether or not someone comes to my "defense" or supports my points of view is meaningless, it will n0t take care of my family or pay my college tuition. This is just a message board. Adios, hopefully you all do the same. I'm off to listen to some Wings...
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RE: The ..2012.... Political thread
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RE: The ..2012.... Political thread
Tallyho:
WRONG..... Paul most certainly WAS being honored by the American People. When ANYONE is accepting an honor at the Whitehouse (The Nations Capitol) they are not solely being honored by the elected official residing there...it is an honor bestowed on them on behalf of the country. (the same country that put that President in the White House....otherwise honor them somewhere else....NOT at the White House) And for the 212th time it is NOT the same NOT NOT NOT the same as radio hosts or politicians making cracks about each other. For God's sake please stop pretending the offended people are trying to censor anyone. Its the TIME AND PLACE of the insult. Do you understand that yet???? I've said dozens of times on this board that Paul could have insulted Bush just about anywhere else (But yet everytime you reply you forget that) Paul himself in his non-apology stated he intentionally waited for Obama to leave the room before making the tasteless crack. So obviously Paul knew it was in bad taste and out of line. I just wish he would have shown the rest of America the same courtesy as he did President Obama and just accepted the award with class and dignity. Over the years I have seen quite a few artists accepting awards from the President......many of them had been very outspoken and some rude towards the current leadership at the time........but when it came time for the award ceremony they (correctly) stated that it was not a time and place for politics or criticizing the President, the event was about something else (music or art or whatever else) It's should not even be a debated issue. Paul was wrong....plain and simple. He even knew he was wrong as evidenced by his admission of not saying it until President Obama and his family had left the room. And I am sure had President Obama known Paul was going to make the bad joke, he would have politely asked him to refrain. The night was supposed to be about Paul McCartney and his music, unfortunately Paul decided to take the celebration down into the gutter with rude and disrespectful behavior. It's a shame thats all that will be remembered from that night. And Paul also managed to turn his own fans against each other (as we have seen on this board) Was it all worth it? For a joke that even in the proper venue wasn't funny anyway. (although I am sure the Paul defenders and Bush haters will all argue and say how side splittingly funny the joke was.....even though the fact that Bush's wife was a librarian makes the joke a pretty poor one....pehaps Paul should have asked Seinfeld for help)
I agree that it wasn't the right thing to say, I wouldn't have, but all this backlash is a bit ridiculous. Paul fans wouldn't "turn" against each other over this issue if people would stop holding high-school grudges and just enjoy his music. That's what this site is about, afterall. I don't like the comment but I disagee with people everyday and that doesn't keep me from liking them as a person or friend and if you think that way, that speaks more about your lack of character than your political views and that's an issue that goes far beyond any comment someone makes. And I disagree, the fact that Mrs. Bush is a former librarian does make the comment more funny...if you can take a joke... This from a guy who voted for Bush twice btw...if that means anything.
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RE: The ..2012.... Political thread
Actually, he was accepting the award on behalf of The Library of Congress, it just happened to be at The White House. He wasn't accepting it on behalf of The Presidency.
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RE: The ..2012.... Political thread
As a person who wouldn't have said what Paul said, here is why he shouldn't apologize for his comment: 1. It was just a joke, tasteless, sure but Seinfeld was there too cracking jokes at peoples expense. 2. While some people who want him to apologize are regular folks wanting him to do "the right thing", some people just want to cause trouble and apologizing to them would just appease them. Besides, would apologizing make it any less of a right thing to of said? No. People who didn't like it will still critisize him for it anyways so what's the point of pouring gas onto fire when you could just let it fly by and let people move on to the next thing. 3. Apologizing won't make Bush an any better/worse President, Paul a better person or Obama a better leader. It would just stir up the hive. In other words, it's a waste of time. I know that sounds cynical and boring but it's true. Again, while some may want him to geniually apologize for an insult, there are far more who just want to cause trouble on the right by making this a bigger deal than it is. Case closed.
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RE: letting go ....pauls bass
I thought it sounded ok, even though this is the broadcast that didn't have Brian and Rusty's guitar's turned up very loud Call me criminal but I have always thought that "Arrow Through Me" and "Goodnight Tonight" were some of Paul's best bass work.
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RE: Paul, Hampden Park, Glasgow, 20th June - ARCHIVE
Yeah, if I recall TTLF was a live album and tour with a raspy Paul at times, and that was over 20 years ago From all the clips I've watched his voice sounds fine, not quite 2002 callibar but still enough to be the best vocalist out there. During Isle of Wight he sounded pretty off but that's the nature of the beast called back to back shows. I can't imagine them being any good even to the younger performers of today. Sure My Love and TLAWR don't sound like they did 20 or even 10 years ago but they still sound good enough to be performed. In fact, I think he has stopped performing Maybe I'm Amazed because of its vocals, that's the first thing I thought of when I first saw it missing from the setlist. The good news is, Paul's catalogue is so large that he can throw away less-singable songs that have always been in his setlists and replace them with rareities such as Letting Go and Venus and Mars/Rockshow.
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RE: Paul, Consol Energy Center Pittsburgh Aug 18th - ARCHIVE
mattbel123:
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~ BUMP ~ This should be on front pg. I'm not happy w/ my seat but the TM kept giving me the 105 sec. each time I threw it back I got the same sec. again excpt further back, I began to wonder if I'd wait too long I wouldn't get anything!!! I know, I should be glad I'm getting to go at all, But I wasn't counting on this lousy of a seat...5 1/2 hrs. of driving to set way back, so far back I don't think I'll be able to see anything...if any of you are going....take photos so I can see what I missed, OK?!!!
There will be video screens all around, you won't miss anything. Maybe you should have just tried for the general on sale? Plenty of decent tickets get released.
I believe TM has a racket going...highest bidder gets the good seats, not fair to the many people who don't have the money!!!!
You need to use the virtual map to locate your ticket. sec 115 row W is actually a very good seat. You're right to the side of the stage. I would love to have that seat. You also have the nice jumbo tron to see with a clear view. I would be happy with this seat if I were you. It seems you will be able to see the band run out when they hit the stage. Take a look for yourself: http://www.seats3d.com/nhl/pittsburgh_penguins/?pn=p_115_3
Great website, just found my seats for Nashville, thanks for posting!
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RE: Paul, Consol Energy Center Pittsburgh Aug 18th - ARCHIVE
I had the same problem for the Nashville sale, you just have to keep going. I had the seats I wanted but then lost them when the site went down temporially and got mad. I took a break, took a shower and came back up later and ended up getting two sections closer than what I had before. Good luck to all my Pittsburgh peeps, all good things come to those who wait.