Yankeefan2 wrote:

B J Conlee wrote:

Just noticed that someone has posted a new reply to "You Gave Me The Answer" article.  This is a guy who is complaining that the song "Yesterday" has been dropped from the Setlist because he used to sing "Yesterday" as a lullaby to his Daughter when she was 13.  You can't please everybody (think Garden Party by Ricky Nelson).  This response helps Paul's reply to his latest "You Gave Me the Answer" article.

Again, my reply to all of this is that Paul has played many, many Beatle songs many times.  Isn't it fair for people to want to hear a small amount of his new songs over Beatle Songs.  For Paul's legacy, it would be better in my opinion since he had a pretty successful career after the Beatles.

BJ, I just counted the songs from the concert last night and the breakdown is 22 Beatle songs, 6 Wings songs and 8 solo songs. (36 songs in total).  This means that Paul is giving the first time fans basically 28 hits. Considering most artists  only do 20-22 songs in their concerts that is plenty and there should be no complaints. It may sound like a broken record but all people like us are asking is to mix up those 8 solo songs better. Is it really wrong for people to want to hear 3 songs from his most recent album which was critically acclaimed and received Grammy nominations?

Ricky Nelson was right when he wrote "Garden Party", there is only so much you can play for the fans to please them. As an artist, you should be a little selfish and play some things you want.  The problem IMO is Paul let's his ego/feeleings get hurt when crowd does not respond as much to solo /unknown songs. You would think that would not get to him and the adoration he gets for 3/4 of the concert would be enough.

Other artists who were part of a famous group don't play as much as Paul does from their famous group when they do concerts. For example, Sting is touring this year and out of 22 songs he plays, only 8 are from the Police. I get he is not the icon Paul is but he is not exactly "chopped liver".  I saw Lindsay Buckingham awhile ago and out of 20 songs, he might have played 4 from his days with Fleetwood Mac.  I am willing to bet that while people in the audience might have wished for a few more songs from the famous group of these two artists, they were still had a good time at the show.

Sadly, time is running out and at his age now Paul is not going to change his ways. It is a crying shame IMO that Paul has never fully embraced his solo legacy live but if it doesn't not bother him who am I do say anything? -lol

P.S. I sent you one more final PM update.

great arguments! I've got similar thoughts every time paul comes with this well known setlist structure from" tour" to "tour" since 2009.

Neil Young is a further expamle who performs WHAT HE LIKES. I visited 3 concerts from him and never saw significant people leaving the concerts... IMO the argument or better macca's nightmare that lot's leave his concert is nonesense considering  ticket price and in connection of  his from concerts 1975/76 , 1979, 1989-90 and 1993 and quite particularly  the secret gigs 1991!

He said: "I’d like to do a whole show of new songs but that’s for the anoraks in the crowd,..." Whats wrong with that? He only needs to remember his own song "do it now" and start a new series of "secret gig 2.0" on the main markets (US and EU).  Together with the right marketing I bet ticket will be sold faster than supposed...

B J Conlee wrote:

Just noticed that someone has posted a new reply to "You Gave Me The Answer" article.  This is a guy who is complaining that the song "Yesterday" has been dropped from the Setlist because he used to sing "Yesterday" as a lullaby to his Daughter when she was 13.  You can't please everybody (think Garden Party by Ricky Nelson).  This response helps Paul's reply to his latest "You Gave Me the Answer" article.

Again, my reply to all of this is that Paul has played many, many Beatle songs many times.  Isn't it fair for people to want to hear a small amount of his new songs over Beatle Songs.  For Paul's legacy, it would be better in my opinion since he had a pretty successful career after the Beatles.

I put also a statements there. I'm wondering about the timing of this articel. It would be interessting to know what brain, rusty, wix and abe thinks about that all. I mean to remember that abe told during the special "somthing new" that they rehearsed nearly the complete "NEW" album....

B J Conlee wrote:

mr.flamingpie wrote:

I never thought I would have to say something like this: For me this sad setlist "composition" reached the point that I'm happy that Paul isn't touring in my area...

I checked the setlist form the second Seattle Show. He did replaced woman and  wives with let'em in... that means no Macca III song in that show ! I'm without words considering the fact that songs like this are perfect for the current level of  voice. It's the same like "Confident" before.  IMO this song did sounded very well during the three gig's McCartney performed it 2008

. Never understand why songs like I don't  know:

Alligator ,on my way to work or sun is shining never got a real chance to get into or stay in the setlist.... Together with songs like every present past, mr. bellamy , dominoes,  find my way ... which never played live. On the other side there are songs  like mr. kite (lennon), helter skelter,  something (harrion) ob la di, or 1985 (performed over 300 times) which could easy take a break.

For a fan of macca's complete lifework that's all a big disappointment...

I'm happy that I had the chance to listen songs like come and get it, wonderful christimas time, I'm looking thru you, another girl, ram on, only mama knows, temporary secr., flaming pie, calico skies, every night live and at least on my way to work, everybody out there, bluebird during soundchecks.  Now I'm more than unsure whether I would pay again for a show which isn't updated enough in every aspect.

Why doesn't he performe people want peace + give peace as chance reprise now? I wish someone would asked him in an interview

Very good post Mr. Flaming Pie.  His Solo Career has unfortunately taken a "Back Seat".

I love the man and he does give it his all as far as a full show.   As I said on a previous Post, I would be happy with 3 songs from McCartney 3...Seize the Day, Find My Way and Slidin plus keeping "Women and Wives" in the Setlist.  It was one of the few songs that he sung well.

isn't it crazy that were're asking for only a handfull songs....because an overworked setlist will never happens again following the logic of the last 10 touring years. A Setlist  with 6+ songs from the current album feels like an alternate reality although macca did it in past. All albums at least from "Memory" till "Macca III" would be worth it.

I never thought I would have to say something like this: For me this sad setlist "composition" reached the point that I'm happy that Paul isn't touring in my area...

I checked the setlist form the second Seattle Show. He did replaced woman and  wives with let'em in... that means no Macca III song in that show ! I'm without words considering the fact that songs like this are perfect for the current level of  voice. It's the same like "Confident" before.  IMO this song did sounded very well during the three gig's McCartney performed it 2008

. Never understand why songs like I don't  know: Alligator ,on my way to work or sun is shining never got a real chance to get into or stay in the setlist.... Together with songs like every present past, mr. bellamy , dominoes,  find my way ... which never played live. On the other side there are songs  like mr. kite (lennon), helter skelter,  something (harrion) ob la di, or 1985 (performed over 300 times) which could easy take a break.

For a fan of macca's complete lifework that's all a big disappointment...

I'm happy that I had the chance to listen songs like come and get it, wonderful christimas time, I'm looking thru you, another girl, ram on, only mama knows, temporary secr., flaming pie, calico skies, every night live and at least on my way to work, everybody out there, bluebird during soundchecks.  Now I'm more than unsure whether I would pay again for a show which isn't updated enough in every aspect.

Why doesn't he performe people want peace + give peace as chance reprise now? I wish someone would asked him in an interview

SandraH wrote:

Prices for Hannover are in german "a Frechheit"!

It is cheaper to travel to Napoli or Lille, instead of making the concert which is 3 hours drive from my home.

absolutly Sandra. The ticket isn't the money worth especially for fans like us that saw this core of the show multiple times ;-). Also thinking about Lille or Italy but a travel there ins't easy beyound schoolholidays. We would like to stay some days there...

that's a very great list Bruce. I would fly around the world for such a setlist !!!

I wonder what  would really happen if Paul performs beside his usual selection. Would the avarage crowd spend extended bathroom/beer breaks till the moment he perfomes only a few beatle songs? As we can see in the case of his concerts during 1970's there were alternative and sucessfully concerts...

My Dream Setlist would somethink like this:

01 The World Tonight

02 Every Present Past

03 Getting Closer

04 No Value

05 Uncle Albert

06 Despite repeated warning

07 Back Seat of my car

08 Hope of deliverance

09 Wanderlust

11 Put it there

12 And I love here

13 Martha my dear

14 Jenny Wren

15 Pipes of Peace

16 Dominoes

17 What you're doing

18 I don't know

19 Anyway

20 House of Wax

21 About You

22 My Brace Face

23 With a little Luck

24 Magical Mystery Tour

25 She loves you

26 I'll get you

27 Great Day

Encore:

28 Good Night Tonight

29 Sgt. Peppers lonely hearts club band

30 So Glad To See You Here

johnpowell wrote:

I know he can't get away from feeling like he has to play certain songs. I just wished he opened up 2/3 of the setlist every time he starts a new leg of a tour (like now).

I know that some songs he cannot sing anymore but these are the songs that I think would be great to add:

Heart of the Country

Too Many People

I've had enough

Goodnight Tonight

Getting Closer

Silly Love Songs

Listen to What the man Said

Helen Wheels (I know he probably can't sing this)

My Brave Face

The World Tonight

ANYTHING off PRESS to Play!

Take It Away

No More Lonely Nights

Ballroom Dancing

Tug of War

Coming Up

On the Way

The weird stuff offf Driving Rain (not what he played in 2001-2002)

That Was Me

I don't Know

My Ever Present Past

Really, just shake it up.

adding 5-8 songs from this selection would change the current setlist to a real freshen up tour and I 'ld surely buy tickets for a further european concerts!

B J Conlee wrote:

As Yankeefan, Bruce, Nancy and I have said countless times before...HERE WE GO AGAIN!

As we all know, 2019 begins the 2nd big phase of Paul's "Freshen Up" tour.  Hopefully this phase will "truly" promote his 2018 highly successful Egypt Station album release. In March of this year, he starts with shows in South America.  Then only a couple months later, he begins the huge USA segment of "Freshen Up" in New Orleans.  Some of the shows I personally could attend because of their location would be:

Raleigh NC (May 27)

Greenville SC (May 30)

Lexington KY (June 1)

For me however, it all depends on the setlist we will see during the upcoming South America dates.  If we basically see the same setlist that we saw in 2018 (including the rotation songs), I will not spend the money for sure.  I say this considering I've seen Paul about 12 times since 1990.  What I primarily want to see are "more Egypt Station" songs that I think are "realistic" given his age and that he skipped last year at the beginning of his announced "Freshen Up Tour".  To do that, I wouldn't even mind if he dropped "Fuh You" and maybe "Come On To Me" from last years setlist.  What I want to really see are any combination of the following:

I Don't Know

Happy With Youi

Confidante

People Want Peace

Hand In Hand

Dominoes

Back in Brazil

Do It Now

Caesar Rock

Hunt You Down/Naked/C-Link (would be great as a closer in my opinion)

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He doesn't have to do all of the above but at the very least, 4 or 5 of them.  If I saw something like this, I would be at one of the above US shows in a heartbeat.

For the 2019 shows, Paul doesn't have the "we didn't have time to rehears them as a full band" excuse anymore.  In 2018, he had a #1 album in many countries in the world and many of these new songs better fit his 2018/2019 voice than his older songs (Beatles and Wings).  And to do a true "Freshen Up"tour, he needs to do a good smattering of his newest songs at the very least in my opinion.  I don't want to see Paul and Band regurgitate the "same non-signature"songs that he can do in his sleep.  This segment of the show would be for the "true fans" and not necessarily for the 1st or 2nd timers.  They will be plenty happy with the real signature songs that understandably Paul has to play.

I have given up on the idea that Paul would dust off some of his best "Solo" songs that he has never done (e.g. Take it Away, Little Willow, Single Pigeon, Ever Present Past etc) but at the very least he should do a bunch of his latest songs from his #1Egypt Station Album.  I will give him a "gentle"  pass for doing just 3 Egypt Station songs last year (for the reason he gave) but if he continues in the same mode, I will just skip Paul in 2019.  I hate to say it since I'm such a big fan, but to me continuing with basicially the same setlist would would be a smack in the face to the "real" fans.

I absolutly understand you or better feel in the same way. After reading the setlist I canceled my hotsoundpackage for krakow concert last year. I didn't regret my desicion but i regret that fans like us "are forced" to choose this kind of protest due to this sad setlist situation.

Pure Mccartney show from Tim Christensen demonstrates that even a setlist without any standard setlistsong works very well. On the other side McCartney could easy arrange a real new (freshen up) setlist with beatles/wings/solo songs because there are so many songs -never or at least not performed in while. Thinking about songs like: sgt. peppers lonely hearts club band, penny lane, your mother should know, martha my dear, what u're doing, a taste of honey, she loves you ... every night, uncle albert, too many people, single pigeon, bluebird, jet,  call me back again, beware my love, with a little luck, cafe on the left bank, getting closer, so glad too see u here ... take it away, wanderlust (lower key), pipes of peace, no value, my brave face, put it there, hope of deliverance, ... I don't know, confidante, happy with you, dominos...

corchians wrote:

If you make a tour and call it "Freshen up" then you play the same old song..  there are no more hope.. for the future..

yeah unfortnately my friend. That was the reason I cancelled my hotsound package for krakow conert!!! I visited 3 one to one tour shows and wouldn't see a one to one tour 2.0 again. That he opens the first time with the same opener (like the tour before) and changed only 5 songs (incl. only 3 songs from his current hit-album on tour)  while calling the tour as "feshen up" is simply a cunning marketing trick. But as long McCartney performs in sold arena/stations there w'll nothing change. I'll never regret to cancel this tour tickets but i regret that w'll never get the chance to hear a lot's of his solo juwels songs live. Songs like wanderlust, take it away, beautiful night, the world tonight, put it there, despite repeated warning, happy with you, house of wax, ever present past, alligator, i can bet,  too much rain, anyway, uncle albert, backseat of my car, ...

Yankeefan2 wrote:

corchians wrote:

Sadly Paul at age of 76 is still frightened by the judgment of the public....

Very true which is amazing.  If I was him and played 25 Beatle/Wings hits every night, I think I would feel I satisfied my audience and the other remaining 10 songs I would do what I darn wanted to play and if the audience is a bit more quiet after those songs it would not really bother me.

unfortunately he don't thinks (or feel) like "us" fans And he seems to lost the persuasion that the majority of his current outputs aren't equivalent to the most beatle stuff.  The "concert Paul" of 1993, 1989 or 1976 is unfortunately long ago history. To recognize this is as one side but to accept that a song like in spide of all the danger is more important for him than songs like Put it there, Own it all to you or Happy with you on the other side is barely comprehensible for fans who likes all his songs from 1957-2018.