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forget 64 wrote:

Bruce M. wrote:
forget 64 wrote:
Maccaroni1974 wrote:
Bruce M. wrote:
wingsoverkc wrote:

The three McCartney shows I attended in 2017 WERE NOT in baseball stadiums with 40,000 fans. They were in enclosed arenas with 15,000 fans. Check the facts Bruce. Austin 2018 was outdoors, yes, but the acoustics were very good and yes, Paul sounded great.  IMO, reality is ACTUALLY attending a concert in person and making a sound decision, instead of listening to a cell phone recording from the 50th row.  Yes, his voice is weaker, duh, but the shows are still incredible; exciting, thoughtful, loud, and thrilling.  

No, the sound is not better in a basketball arena, fer god's sake. They're not designed for acoustics. The echo and crowd noise cover a multitude of sins. But if you prefer imaginary Paul to real Paul, go and enjoy. I prefer to treasure the memories of when he sounded decent.

100% correct

   Aren't you listening to a recording from the same venues  to form  your opinion? 

What venues have you ever seen him in other than indoor, usually sports arenas and outdoor venues ?

I much prefer indoor  to outdoor concerts. There I see  a  considerable difference in the quality of the sound, not his voice, the overall sound.

The only non sporting arenas or outdoor venues I can remember seeing him perform at were Grand Central Terminal (not built for acoustics), The Joint at the Hard Rock Hotel Las Vegas (i believe it's just for concerts) and Irving Plaza in NY. I have seen him  often and in comparing  these locations to arenas the main difference's, they were obviously smaller, the sound was  clearer  and a little louder, no difference in voice quality.  That's about it.

Of course he doesn't sound like he did in his younger days no rational person would expect that.  I don't  miss the opportunity  to see him as often as possible, obviously I really enjoy his concerts. If you don't think his voice is worth going to see than that's your opinion, but  he is still selling a lot of tickets  all over the world, so his shows are still in demand, why should he stop now, or retire soon?

 

So after all the smoke and mirrors fade, you admitted the point I was making all along:

Of course he doesn't sound like he did in his younger days no rational person would expect that.

Paul's voice is a shadow of what it was and we all know it.  If you're able to ignore that in the din of a concert, go with my blessing. And I'll say it again: He should retire before he truly starts to embarrass himself, and that point is getting close, whether some fans choose to admit it or not.

No Bruce, I did not admit the point you were making all along, I obviously do not agree with you. He doesnt't sound like he did in his younger days is no where near his voice is a shadow of what it was, is that what you really got out of it??? If you expect him to sound like he did when he was younger then there is no point in debating that with you. That is just not rational, is that what you expect from a man in his 70's ?

Once again aren't  you listening to a recording from the same venues to form your opinion? I didn't see a response to that question. "no the sound is not better in a basketball arena for God sakes, they're are not designed for acoustics" I believe you wrote

What venues have you seen him in other than indoor, usually sports arenas and outdoor venues?

You are entitled to your opinion about him retiring, but once again if he is selling out to mostly great reviews your opinion is certainly in the minority.

Most recognize his voice won't sound the same as it did at age 25.  Thats fine.  What Bruce is trying to say(i dont want to speak for him) and myself as well is it sounds bad for any age.    It is very wobbily.  Even his speaking voice is shaky.  It doesn't matter if you are watching a youtube clip or witnessing it live.

 To say he sounds "great" is not being honest.  He doesn't sound great.  Abe is doing most of the lead vocals, and Paul is more of a guiding vocal.   One only needs to hear the first few bars of Maybe Im Amazed to know it isn't good. 

By the time the tour hits the US, ES will be  a distant memory for most.  Don't expect any surprises.  I am sitting this tour out, as it isn't worth the $$$ at this point to hear the same songs and stories over and over and over.   Embarrassing.

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The old dog is gonna be fine.

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SusyLuvsPaul wrote:

I will sell my ticket for just face value without adding the "service fee" to the charge.  I have one ground floor row nine ticket.

I'm sorry to hear you cant go.  I remember you anxiously awaiting your ticket.  Hope all is well.

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Love it.  Thanks for posting

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Rockerdude wrote:

They  had sold close to 90,000 tickets for show this summer north of Toronto. I saw them during the Voodoo Lounge Tour. They should of packed it in after releasing Tattoo You in '81. 

Why?  And why did you see them in the mid 90's VL tour if you thought they should have packed it in?  Mick still sounds pretty good vocally at his age, and his voice isn't "wobbily" like you know who.

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veggieburgher wrote:

There is currently a slew of nice "gold hot seats" available near the stage (piano side) in section 121.

If youre willing to pay the insane price of $700 per ticket.

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Bruce M. wrote:

It will be interesting to see if anything new comes into the set list. Given recent history, I'm not holdingmy breath.

At this stage I'd be happy with the same set, as long as the vocals were strong, not the same stories, and no ridiculous pics of Kanye and Rhianna to try to be hip.

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veggieburgher wrote:

Maccaroni1974 wrote:
veggieburgher wrote:

There is currently a slew of nice "gold hot seats" available near the stage (piano side) in section 121.

If youre willing to pay the insane price of $700 per ticket.

It is quite a markup just for "swag."  But that is just an excuse to charge a premium for desirable seats. I wonder what will happen with these tickets if they go unsold. Might be worth watchful waiting.

The are generally "reduced" to standard face value if not sold at the VIP price.

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Vocals sound a bit rough.  Doesn't bode well for the rest of the tour.  I won't be seeing him this time around.  Same set, same predictability, not worth the $$$ at this point.

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~lady*madonna~ wrote:

As I feared, according to setlist.fm when checking the set list for the New Orleans concert tonight, "Yesterday" is no longer a part of his concert.

Its been played at every show since the 70's.   This idea that so many people at his shows are first timers which is why his show is so Beatle heavy is also nonsense.  The man has been touring non stop since 2002, and also 89-90, and 93.  Thats a lot of gigs in 30 years.  Most shows Ive been to, the people around me have seen him multiple times, or at least once.

Its been the same tributes since 2002, the same stories more or less since 2002, the same closer since 2011, and the same opener since 2016.  Nothing Fresh, nothing new, all old.  He had 2 months off, and couldnt find the time to reahearse and insert ONE new song from ANY decade into the set.  Embarrassing.

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