The ..2012.... Political thread
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However, there's also a difference between taking a poll and information open to public record that's based on factual numbers, including number of arrests, broken down by types of crime, weapons involved, etc, etc, etc...and then the number of cases tried and found in favor of the state's case. Heck, if I take a poll here, I bet I would find that there is no historical figure greater than Paul McCartney
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rich n:
However, there's also a difference between taking a poll and information open to public record that's based on factual numbers, including number of arrests, broken down by types of crime, weapons involved, etc, etc, etc...and then the number of cases tried and found in favor of the state's case. Heck, if I take a poll here, I bet I would find that there is no historical figure greater than Paul McCartney
No, actually they would all vote the Beatles were greater.
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Teddy Roosevelt's words after he was shot: http://www.theodoreroosevelt.org/research/speech%20kill%20moose.htm
I don't know anything about who the man was who shot me to-night. He was seized at once by one of the stenographers in my party, Mr. Martin, and I suppose is now in the hands of the police. He shot to kill. He shot -- the shot, the bullet went in here -- I will show you. I am going to ask you to be as quiet as possible for I am not able to give to challenge of the bull moose quite as loudly. Now, I do not know who he was or what he represented. He was a coward. He stood in the darkness in the crowd around the automobile and when they cheered me, and I got up to bow, he stepped forward and shot me in the darkness. Now, friends, of course, I do not know, as I say, anything about him; but it is a very natural thing that weak and vicious minds should be inflamed to acts of violence by the kind of awful mendacity and abuse that have been heaped upon me for the last three months by the papers in the interest of not only Mr. Debs but of Mr. Wilson and Mr. Taft. Friends, I will disown and repudiate any man of my party who attacks with such foul slander and abuse any opponent of any other party; and now I wish to say seriously to all the daily newspapers, to the Republicans, the Democrat, and Socialist parties, that they cannot, month in month out and year in and year out, make the kind of untruthful, of bitter assault that they have made and not expect that brutal, violent natures, or brutal and violent characters, especially when the brutality is accompanied by a not very strong mind; they cannot expect that such natures will be unaffected by it.
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lazydynamite88:
like i said before 'statistics' can hide a multitude of sins. speaking of.......did you know that 9/10 people actually enjoy gang rape
That took me a second to get. You're quite a provocative dude!
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seeing as we are on the 'mccartney forum' this comparisson is most definately valid./ BEATLE ATTACKED BY CRAZY FAN IN AMERICA... At around 10:50 pm on 8 December 1980, as Lennon and Ono returned to their New York apartment in The Dakota, Mark David Chapman shot Lennon in the back four times at the entrance to the building. Lennon was taken to the emergency room of nearby Roosevelt Hospital and was pronounced dead on arrival at 11:07 pm. BEATLE ATTACKED BY CRAZY FAN IN UK... In late 1999, Harrison survived a knife attack by an intruder in his home. At 3:30 am on 30 December 1999 36-year-old Michael Abram broke into the Harrisons' Friar Park home and began loudly calling to Harrison. Harrison left the bedroom to investigate while his wife, Olivia, phoned the police. Abram attacked Harrison with a kitchen knife, inflicting seven stab wounds, puncturing a lung and causing head injuries before Olivia Harrison incapacitated the assailant by striking him repeatedly with a fireplace poker. The attack lasted approximately fifteen minutes.'ABRAM', who believed he was possessed by Harrison and was on a "mission from God" to kill him. IF GEORGE HARRISON ATTACKER HAD USED A GUN HE WOULD HAVE MURDERED GEORGE. IF JOHN LENNONS ATTACKER HAD USED A KNIFE 'LENNON' MAY WELL HAVE LIVED. THE COUNTRY IN WHICH 'LENNON' LIVED WAS A BIG PART IN HIS HORRIFIC EARLY DEATH.
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lazydynamite88:
seeing as we are on the 'mccartney forum' this comparisson is most definately valid./ BEATLE ATTACKED BY CRAZY FAN IN AMERICA... At around 10:50 pm on 8 December 1980, as Lennon and Ono returned to their New York apartment in The Dakota, Mark David Chapman shot Lennon in the back four times at the entrance to the building. Lennon was taken to the emergency room of nearby Roosevelt Hospital and was pronounced dead on arrival at 11:07 pm. BEATLE ATTACKED BY CRAZY FAN IN UK... In late 1999, Harrison survived a knife attack by an intruder in his home. At 3:30 am on 30 December 1999 36-year-old Michael Abram broke into the Harrisons' Friar Park home and began loudly calling to Harrison. Harrison left the bedroom to investigate while his wife, Olivia, phoned the police. Abram attacked Harrison with a kitchen knife, inflicting seven stab wounds, puncturing a lung and causing head injuries before Olivia Harrison incapacitated the assailant by striking him repeatedly with a fireplace poker. The attack lasted approximately fifteen minutes.'ABRAM', who believed he was possessed by Harrison and was on a "mission from God" to kill him. IF GEORGE HARRISON ATTACKER HAD USED A GUN HE WOULD HAVE MURDERED GEORGE. IF JOHN LENNONS ATTACKER HAD USED A KNIFE 'LENNON' MAY WELL HAVE LIVED. THE COUNTRY IN WHICH 'LENNON' LIVED WAS A BIG PART IN HIS HORRIFIC EARLY DEATH.
I remember the George Harrsion event all too well. This might be a selfish thought, but -- after that -- I felt that scare would somehow lead to a full-scale Beatle reunion... ...that they would ALL conclude: "F-ck it. Life's too short. Let's make some music together again."
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Glenn Beck shoot them in the head video US right wing leader urges audience to shoot 'them' in the head:
Can Vitriolic Vilification Provoke Violence? http://www.talk2action.org/story/2011/1/18/9834/60537 -
mustangsally10:
Glenn Beck shoot them in the head video US right wing leader urges audience to shoot 'them' in the head:
Can Vitriolic Vilification Provoke Violence? http://www.talk2action.org/story/2011/1/18/9834/60537Glenn Beck's point wasn't necessarily violent, but his use of violent rhetoric needs to stop. Especially when the bulk of your audience is a legion of tobacco-spittin', gun-totin', redneck dumb-asses.
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Judge gives former Ill. sheriff life in prison Wednesday Jan. 19, 2011 By JIM SUHR A federal judge called a disgraced Illinois sheriff "the worst of humanity" Wednesday and sentenced him to life in prison for trafficking marijuana on the job and a foiled plot to have potential witnesses killed. ... Martin, a Democrat who had been re-elected four times, ... Despite ... plotting to kill witnesses, Martin clung to his job and still got his $40,000-a-year salary until the county fired him after his conviction, ending his nearly 20-year run as sheriff. complete article: http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/01/19/2023595/judge-gives-former-ill-sheriff.html
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audi:
mustangsally10:
Glenn Beck shoot them in the head video US right wing leader urges audience to shoot 'them' in the head:
Can Vitriolic Vilification Provoke Violence? http://www.talk2action.org/story/2011/1/18/9834/60537Glenn Beck's point wasn't necessarily violent, but his use of violent rhetoric needs to stop. Especially when the bulk of your audience is a legion of tobacco-spittin', gun-totin', redneck dumb-asses.
and it continues the FBI is calling a bomb planted on the route of a Martin Luther King Day parade in Spokane, Wa a credible threat and domestic terrorism http://www.kxly.com/news/26530294/detail.html and days after the Tucson shootings Rush Limbaughs 'Straight Shooter" billboard still stands http://newsone.com/nation/newsonestaff4/rush-limbaughs-straight-shooter-billboard-still-stands-over-tuscon and yet another incident in Arlington, MA: http://thinkprogress.org/2011/01/20/libertarian-guns-boston/ American Taliban?
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glum buck...the man with the "golden" gun... ...buy gold...sit on your money...and never spend it on any good work
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Keith Olbermann just signed off tonight show cancelled...we lost one. We lose one they need to lose two and Palin only counts and 1/100. Olberman gets cancelled and Limbaugh make racist jokes is a drug addict and is fat but he gets to stay on. Rachel Maddow was a no show on her show tonight. I'm guessing comcast who is rumored to of bought out MSNBC is a little more to the right. I like to see less of both sides of the ranting. I guess we'll see who gets his seat. If I got to pick, it be Dylan Rattigan..
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appletart2:
Keith Olbermann just signed off tonight show cancelled...we lost one. We lose one they need to lose two and Palin only counts and 1/100. Olberman gets cancelled and Limbaugh make racist jokes is a drug addict and is fat but he gets to stay on. Rachel Maddow was a no show on her show tonight. I'm guessing comcast who is rumored to of bought out MSNBC is a little more to the right. I like to see less of both sides of the ranting. I guess we'll see who gets his seat. If I got to pick, it be Dylan Rattigan..
I would gladly give up Palin if in turn, it meant Obama was outta there as well. Seems like a fair trade off to me
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rich n:
appletart2:
Keith Olbermann just signed off tonight show cancelled...we lost one. We lose one they need to lose two and Palin only counts and 1/100. Olberman gets cancelled and Limbaugh make racist jokes is a drug addict and is fat but he gets to stay on. Rachel Maddow was a no show on her show tonight. I'm guessing comcast who is rumored to of bought out MSNBC is a little more to the right. I like to see less of both sides of the ranting. I guess we'll see who gets his seat. If I got to pick, it be Dylan Rattigan..
I would gladly give up Palin if in turn, it meant Obama was outta there as well. Seems like a fair trade off to me
Would you rather America go through another four years of George W. Bush? Seriously? Clinton was a better than Republican than he was.
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audi:
rich n:
appletart2:
Keith Olbermann just signed off tonight show cancelled...we lost one. We lose one they need to lose two and Palin only counts and 1/100. Olberman gets cancelled and Limbaugh make racist jokes is a drug addict and is fat but he gets to stay on. Rachel Maddow was a no show on her show tonight. I'm guessing comcast who is rumored to of bought out MSNBC is a little more to the right. I like to see less of both sides of the ranting. I guess we'll see who gets his seat. If I got to pick, it be Dylan Rattigan..
I would gladly give up Palin if in turn, it meant Obama was outta there as well. Seems like a fair trade off to me
Would you rather America go through another four years of George W. Bush? Seriously? Clinton was a better than Republican than he was.
Just the mere fact that Obama refused to call a terrorist a terrorist is enough to call for pause...fortunately he seems to have realized that error in judgement and I've heard the word 'terrorist' come out of his mouth on occasions lately
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"Terrorist" is the new "Communist" is the new "Fascist." Any Government engaged in rescinding its' Citizens Rights, Liberties and Freedoms MUST have a "Bogeyman."
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appletart2:
Keith Olbermann just signed off tonight show cancelled...we lost one. We lose one they need to lose two and Palin only counts and 1/100. Olberman gets cancelled and Limbaugh make racist jokes is a drug addict and is fat but he gets to stay on. Rachel Maddow was a no show on her show tonight. I'm guessing comcast who is rumored to of bought out MSNBC is a little more to the right. I like to see less of both sides of the ranting. I guess we'll see who gets his seat. If I got to pick, it be Dylan Rattigan..
I would gladly give up Palin if in turn, it meant Obama was outta there as well. Seems like a fair trade off to me [/quote no no no you miss read..she only counts as 1/100 of a new media personality. Like just the mouth of Glenn Beck.. you need the rest to make a whole. You actually take her seriously as a presidential candidate??? i'll give you Pat Paulsen for your Sarah Palin. Now that would be a equal trade.
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Altanon:
"Terrorist" is the new "Communist" is the new "Fascist." Any Government engaged in rescinding its' Citizens Rights, Liberties and Freedoms MUST have a "Bogeyman."
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Once upon a time in the United States, We had Civil Servants. Now the "Servants" have the Best Jobs, with the Highest Pay, the best Benefits Packages and the most Job Security. How did the "Servants" become Our Masters?