And now the time is near....
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and what's wrong with that?
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Beatles4Ever&Ever:
oobu24:
Hi passion is the bottom line.
Another question then...why does he cater to the Beatles crowd? He KNOWS that is a money maker. Concerts, itunes, dvds, anthologys, remakes, video games, cartoons, rockband, etc. He is keeping the Beatles alive yes because he wrote or cowrote most of the songs...but if it was just for the music...why not do more of your solo stuff?
Because most people who go to his concerts expect him to do Beatles' songs. If he had not been a Beatle, we may (quite likely) have never heard of him, no matter how great his musical talent. That's just how it is.
Paul has said many times that he most thinks of what the audience would love to hear, so he does his greatest hits. Paul: "As if I went to a Stones concert I would like to hear Satisfaction, Honky Tonk Woman"...
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what he gets is the feedback from the songs she sings. That's his frame of reference. There is nothing wrong with the two concert idea. But why should he do it. His feedback is the response from the audience.
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I'm going to go back to the Cavern Club show in '99. I knew very few of those songs, and it's a great show, all things considerd. Here's a 1972 setlist from the college tour. Did folks walk out on this show? 1.Opening Jam 2.Eat At Home 3.Smile Away 4.Bip Bop 5.Mumbo 6.Blue Moon Of Kentucky 7.1882 8.I Would Only Smile 9.The Mess 10.Best Friend 11.Soily 12.I Am Your Singer 13.Seaside Woman 14.Say You Don't Mind 15.Henry's Blues 16.Give Ireland Back To The Irish 17.Cottonfield 18.My Love 19.Mary Had A Little Lamb 20.Maybe I'm Amazed 21.Hi, Hi, Hi 22.Long Tall Sally
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audi, I would not walk out on that show, but sadly many will. But on the bright side we would have a very intimate show. lol Tomorrow, I would love for him to do Tomorrow in the guitar solo section.
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audi:
Not to cause a stir, but...
jlw44:
.... Until recently he never did the majority of the songs he does in concert...
If by "recently" you mean the last 22 years, then...
jlw44:
...He has a unique product and after watching him so many times you can see how much he enjoys doing those songs...
And included in that unique product is an arsenal of Gold/Platinum/Grammy-nominated/critically well-regarded solo albums that fans like me wonder why he ignores.
I think he just ignore what people ignores. So he's not going to into Beautiful Night cause it's lesser known than virtually ANY Beatle song Also I think there's a 2nd factor. He wants to do the songs to make people realize HE WROTE that. I wonder how many of the people that see Paul live go thinking he's gonna sing songs "John wrote". But still this is important because the Beatles songs are so popular. He wouldn't mind if people thought Ringo was the writer of Beautiful Night. If there is some announcement of a release of an unreleased Beatle song it's like the world stops. If there is a release of a solo-Macca unreleased, not even the fans care much.
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A small show like the Cavern, Highline, will get a more varied set list. Paul's history will tell us that. A big show will get the songs that keep everyone on their feet the whole night. Just my humble opinion, I don't see that changing anytime soon.
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21st Century Paul:
audi:
Not to cause a stir, but...
jlw44:
.... Until recently he never did the majority of the songs he does in concert...
If by "recently" you mean the last 22 years, then...
jlw44:
...He has a unique product and after watching him so many times you can see how much he enjoys doing those songs...
And included in that unique product is an arsenal of Gold/Platinum/Grammy-nominated/critically well-regarded solo albums that fans like me wonder why he ignores.
I think he just ignore what people ignores. So he's not going to into Beautiful Night cause it's lesser known than virtually ANY Beatle song Also I think there's a 2nd factor. He wants to do the songs to make people realize HE WROTE that. I wonder how many of the people that see Paul live go thinking he's gonna sing songs "John wrote". But still this is important because the Beatles songs are so popular. He wouldn't mind if people thought Ringo was the writer of Beautiful Night. If there is some announcement of a release of an unreleased Beatle song it's like the world stops. If there is a release of a solo-Macca unreleased, not even the fans care much.
Concerts are no place for hard-core fans, I guess.
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audi:
I'm going to go back to the Cavern Club show in '99. I knew very few of those songs, and it's a great show, all things considerd. Here's a 1972 setlist from the college tour. Did folks walk out on this show? 1.Opening Jam 2.Eat At Home 3.Smile Away 4.Bip Bop Play Video 5.Mumbo 6.Blue Moon Of Kentucky 7.1882 Play Video 8.I Would Only Smile 9.The Mess 10.Best Friend 11.Soily Play Video 12.I Am Your Singer 13.Seaside Woman 14.Say You Don't Mind 15.Henry's Blues 16.Give Ireland Back To The Irish 17.Cottonfield 18.My Love 19.Mary Had A Little Lamb 20.Maybe I'm Amazed 21.Hi, Hi, Hi 22.Long Tall Sally
Oh wow, no. 2, 3 and 21 would have been enough to make a Mrs. Pepper very happy
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oobu24:
audi:
DennyC:
Audi, the music of the past few albums is fantastic, I agree with you. But the masses haven't heard those recordings, simple as that. He could promote them more, but he's not doing the massive OTG and FITD tours. Even the tour plugging DR was bigger than he's doing now. That was pre-custody demands. So we are getting a more intimate look at this work, like KOTB. The masses know the Beatle tunes, and basically from the feedback they get at the shows, Paul knows they are enjoying themselves. When he throws in an obsure song (Come and Get it) there is a hush in the crowd. No artist wants to play to that.
You're right: Realistically, 50,000 people aren't going to roar to one relatively obscure song after another. And I'm sure that Paul loves the huge crowds -- and the adulation that usually comes with them. But -- on an artistic, personal level -- I wonder if Paul would be up to the challenge of doing a one or two-time series of smaller concerts featuring his solo catalogue. I'm grateful for the live versions of The Fireman tracks; I'm grateful for the live versions of "Calico Skies," "Flaming Pie," "Only Mama Knows," "House Of Wax" and so on. I just don't believe those are enough.
I've often said here that when he does 2 nites in one city he could do a nite for the Beatle people (usual show) and a nite with more recent stuff & more Fireman (I'm with you on that Audi). He could advertise it as such & I bet a lot of people would go to both show.
He could do 2 shows. The "Before 1974" and the "Beyond 1973" as he kind of stops in 1973, From I Saw her standing there to Live and let die and lots of songs of BOTR... Sooner or later he'll get bored of doing the same songs over and over, no matter the feedback. Actually he seems to enjoy much more when he does songs he rarely does. In many concerts he's kind of sleepy except when he's playing 1985 or Sing The Changes, etc. One gets bored of the feedback too... like "I know that if I do that I will get claps and yahoo! and yeahs! and people will get mad but anyway I'm not going to do it I'll prefer to do something else"
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DennyC:
A small show like the Cavern, Highline, will get a more varied set list. Paul's history will tell us that. A big show will get the songs that keep everyone on their feet the whole night. Just my humble opinion, I don't see that changing anytime soon.
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sorry but a lot of us will not give up our dreams
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Audi, I wouldn't say concerts are no place for hard core fans. I'm a hard core fan, but I accept what is going to happen live and love the cds. For me it's about being in the room with Paul and 40,000 of my new best friends. lol.
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DennyC:
Audi, I wouldn't say concerts are no place for hard core fans. I'm a hard core fan, but I accept what is going to happen live and love the cds. For me it's about being in the room with Paul and 40,000 of my new best friends. lol.
There is nothing about that that I disagree. I just got up this morning with an extreme case of The Mondays.
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oobu24:
sorry but a lot of us will not give up our dreams
Especially considering that he's the most powerful rock legend on the planet. If anybody can do it, it's Paul McCartney.
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audi:
oobu24:
sorry but a lot of us will not give up our dreams
Especially considering that he's the most powerful rock legend on the planet. If anybody can do it, it's Paul McCartney.
Who knows...did I hear someone say Fireman concert?
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That would be the absolutely easiest avenue for Paul to do a concert where nobody in the audience would expect to hear a Beatles hit. Plus, I just friggin' love The Fireman.
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see I don't get that. I'm not trying to be argumentive, I would love a fireman show, but Paul is Paul, and when people see him they expect Paul songs which also happen to be Beatle songs. I would bet that many people walking out of that show would think, He could have encored with I saw her standing there. lol My point is you will never get a whole room to agree on everything.
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DennyC:
see I don't get that. I'm not trying to be argumentive, I would love a fireman show, but Paul is Paul, and when people see him they expect Paul songs which also happen to be Beatle songs. I would bet that many people walking out of that show would think, He could have encored with I saw her standing there. lol My point is you will never get a whole room to agree on everything.
He added "I Saw Her Standing There" to his Cavern Club set in '99, and that was an appropriate choice. Not such a good idea for a Fireman show. I think something like "Ou Est Le Soleil" or the dance remix of "Hope Of Deliverance" would be better choices for encores.
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(I know this is very unlikely to happen but it's Paul, who knows?) An option to play lots of songs in a limited time to play are medleys, huge medleys. Half an hour medleys... an even more... Paul could do a 2 hour/3 hour medley, playing 1 0r 2 minutes per song. That leaves room for 100 songs or so. lol Really. As the Beatle songs are short, few will complain they're cut to 2 minutes, they're already like that... and there will be lots of post 1973 stuff. Paul has a thing for medleys and also think he wants to perform live dozens of songs he has never played live.