The 2012 and beyond Political Thread - Part 2
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an apology:
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love2travel:
I'm going to a protest and so I'll fact find myself. Just remember, it was Trump who incited people to civil disobedience at polling places, double voting and I know of someone who said they were going to do it. If anything is Rigged, it's coming from the direction of the person who brought it up!
Who would give credibility to viewpoints that are dancing foolishly in the hills? EXCEPT FOR... The actual original Fool On The Hill who supports Hillary and Democrat and Liberal causes. MOST Americans Support Hillary and Democrats by a large number. There are more of us than there are of them. I listened periodically to con servative radio talk show hosts for 8 years attempt to lambaste and deride President Obama. Democrats are well geared and prepared to keep taking on their backwards philosophies and hopefully lift US ALL to that HIGHER MIDDLE GROUND.
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rich n:
love2travel:
I'm going to a protest and so I'll fact find myself. Just remember, it was Trump who incited people to civil disobedience at polling places, double voting and I know of someone who said they were going to do it. If anything is Rigged, it's coming from the direction of the person who brought it up!
Actually the violence was bought and paid for by the DNC - but please continue
ALL of the Violence was initially stirred up by Trump rhetoric in general. There was a Peace Officer laid to rest on Election Day who was killed by a Confederate flag flying white male. Trump's disposition has empowered these people. And, NO ONE can RIGHTFULLY SAY that this IS NOT THE TRUTH.
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Folks, we have a troll on this board who is trying to provoke us by repeating the preposterous lies that stream from Trump, Breitbart and InfoWars. If the mods don't have the good sense to remove this person, the sane people here should just ignore.
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Bruce M.:
Folks, we have a troll on this board who is trying to provoke us by repeating the preposterous lies that stream from Trump, Breitbart and InfoWars. If the mods don't have the good sense to remove this person, the sane people here should just ignore.
If Trump said the sky was pink, his followers would see a pink sky and argue till the cows come home, that it's pink.
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SurSteven:
love2travel:
I'm going to a protest and so I'll fact find myself. Just remember, it was Trump who incited people to civil disobedience at polling places, double voting and I know of someone who said they were going to do it. If anything is Rigged, it's coming from the direction of the person who brought it up!
Who would give credibility to viewpoints that are dancing foolishly in the hills? EXCEPT FOR... The actual original Fool On The Hill who supports Hillary and Democrat and Liberal causes. MOST Americans Support Hillary and Democrats by a large number. There are more of us than there are of them. I listened periodically to con servative radio talk show hosts for 8 years attempt to lambaste and deride President Obama. Democrats are well geared and prepared to keep taking on their backwards philosophies and hopefully lift US ALL to that HIGHER MIDDLE GROUND.
We have a lot of company to help lift us. Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders along with a host of other watchdogs, letting us know about the campaign promises that are broken and other such troublesome Trump Moves.
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It's not called disinformation anymore. Now it's alt truth. There is Republican truth, Democrat truth and independent truth. Whichever version is true depends of how many of whichever group is in the room.
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Bruce M.:
Folks, we have a troll on this board who is trying to provoke us by repeating the preposterous lies that stream from Trump, Breitbart and InfoWars. If the mods don't have the good sense to remove this person, the sane people here should just ignore.
I don't know who you're talking about, but the funny part is how easily people get sucked into the distractions behind door #3. The RNC, DNC, "liberal media" and right wing media go out of their way to get people to argue over the distractions so no one pays attention to what's going on behind doors 1 and 2. For all the talk of change in this election, it's just more of the same.
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HaileyMcComet:
Bruce M.:
Folks, we have a troll on this board who is trying to provoke us by repeating the preposterous lies that stream from Trump, Breitbart and InfoWars. If the mods don't have the good sense to remove this person, the sane people here should just ignore.
I don't know who you're talking about, but the funny part is how easily people get sucked into the distractions behind door #3. The RNC, DNC, "liberal media" and right wing media go out of their way to get people to argue over the distractions so no one pays attention to what's going on behind doors 1 and 2. For all the talk of change in this election, it's just more of the same.
In my opinion, the whole of American media works on the distraction theory. When something really important happens here or abroad, the focus is always on something ridiculously unimportant, such as Brittney Spears wearing no underwear, or Kanye, what the Kardashians are doing, Beyonce. It's all a distraction to keep the Americans focused on the frivolous actions of other people, totally drawing your attention away from what is happening in the world. You only have to look at the election, to see that is true. Tweeting lies, being so rich that your families struggles are played out on TV every week, like a train wreck at times. Distraction, distraction, distraction. While the real world is looking at you in horror and disbelief. We have become the Kardasian TV show of the world, in full train wreck motion. It's clear why Trump was elected. I need to turn that channel off, I have a headache. Besides with the TV off, the news off, I can think clearly again. No wonder people think someone who had a fake reality show and looked for a fake reason to unceremoniously fire slightly heavy people because he found them unattractive. There was no substance, whatsoever to that show even. Unless you were a bully in training.
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However One Voted In The Election, I Am Sure That EVERYONE Should Agree That ALL AMERICANS DESERVE COMPLETELY FAIR ELECTIONS!!!. Based On This...Did Anyone Notice That The Trump Campaign Ads Declaring That Hillary Was Under Investigation Were Still Running On Television For 3 Days After And Through The Election? AFTER, FBI Director Comey exonerated Hillary??? Totally And Completely UnAmerican. Once Again...There Was NO Conservative Rightwing Candidate To Take Votes Away From Trump. In The Interest Of COMPLETE ELECTION FAIRNESS...Gary Johnson's Votes Should Go To Hillary And The Electoral Votes Should Be Recounted. IF, We Want To Have...AN ABSOLUTELY FAIR AMERICAN ELECTION RESULT.
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Bruce M.:
Folks, we have a troll on this board who is trying to provoke us by repeating the preposterous lies that stream from Trump, Breitbart and InfoWars. If the mods don't have the good sense to remove this person, the sane people here should just ignore.
Or....(check this out) perhaps the moderators understand there are two sides to this argument...just food for thought
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We can bid adieu to our Civil Rights in the USA with our new Attorney General. Things are going backwards now.
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The Muslim man I saw today, with a sign that said "Muslims are not all Terrorists". He looked so sad. Thinking how some Trump voters at work, who seem to think that all Muslims ARE terrorists. The guy at work told me, all Muslims should be deported because HE THINKS they ALL know who the terrorists are and are not turning them in. I asked him if he knew what all the members in his church do in their private life and if he knew which ones had committed crimes in their life. He didn't, and he can't understand the analogy. He said Trump would not deport ALL Muslims, if it wasn't true. It's like a green light for hate crimes these days. I feel horrible for all the hated people. ops: Just realized I'm one of them as a woman... I'm signing the petition.
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love2travel:
The Muslim man I saw today, with a sign that said "Muslims are not all Terrorists". He looked so sad. Thinking how some Trump voters at work, who seem to think that all Muslims ARE terrorists. The guy at work told me, all Muslims should be deported because HE THINKS they ALL know who the terrorists are and are not turning them in. I asked him if he knew what all the members in his church do in their private life and if he knew which ones had committed crimes in their life. He didn't, and he can't understand the analogy. He said Trump would not deport ALL Muslims, if it wasn't true. It's like a green light for hate crimes these days. I feel horrible for all the hated people. ops: Just realized I'm one of them as a woman... I'm signing the petition.
They Are Stupidly Jeopardizing Their Own Souls By Clinging To Selfish, Paranoid, Faithless Ignorance
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Dakota Access Pipeline Protesters hosed with water and tear gassed. As our First African American President Obama, who I voted for twice, doesn't do anything to ensure the Civil Rights of Americans are recognized. http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/21/us/dakota-access-pipeline-protests/index.html What do we think is going to happen when Trump the Tweeter takes over?
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hey_kittay:
Dakota Access Pipeline Protesters hosed with water and tear gassed. As our First African American President Obama, who I voted for twice, doesn't do anything to ensure the Civil Rights of Americans are recognized. http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/21/us/dakota-access-pipeline-protests/index.html What do we think is going to happen when Trump the Tweeter takes over?
God help us all... Water boarding ? I say in jest?! I'm sure the real tweets will let us know, all unguarded thoughts....
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No comment - just watch & listen ...
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Andy_Shofar:
No comment - just watch & listen ...
Nice Music News Link, Andy... "Aerosmith News Network: Aero-Vederci Baby! European tour announced" xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Speaking Of Politics And Europe. European Neo- Nazis Recently Had A Meeting Praising Trump And Raising Their Straight Stiff Arms And Saying... 'Heil Trump' Glad You Voted For Him...And, Not Me! http://forward.com/news/355076/heil-trump-and-3-other-anti-semitic-outrages-at-white-supremacist-victory-p/ xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx How Gary Johnson and Jill Stein helped elect Donald Trump... http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/10/politics/gary-johnson-jill-stein-spoiler/index.html
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love2travel:
In my opinion, the whole of American media works on the distraction theory. When something really important happens here or abroad, the focus is always on something ridiculously unimportant, such as Brittney Spears wearing no underwear, or Kanye, what the Kardashians are doing, Beyonce. It's all a distraction to keep the Americans focused on the frivolous actions of other people, totally drawing your attention away from what is happening in the world. You only have to look at the election, to see that is true. Tweeting lies, being so rich that your families struggles are played out on TV every week, like a train wreck at times. Distraction, distraction, distraction. While the real world is looking at you in horror and disbelief. We have become the Kardasian TV show of the world, in full train wreck motion. It's clear why Trump was elected. I need to turn that channel off, I have a headache. Besides with the TV off, the news off, I can think clearly again. No wonder people think someone who had a fake reality show and looked for a fake reason to unceremoniously fire slightly heavy people because he found them unattractive. There was no substance, whatsoever to that show even. Unless you were a bully in training.
Celebrity scandals have always been a great way to distract voters. Remember when Janet Jackson's Super Bowl nipple was the end of the world as we knew it? That happened during an election year when the incumbent was pushing a very unpopular war that a lot of people wanted to end right after Saddam Hussein was captured. "Wardrobe malfunction" did for 2004 what "hanging chad" did for 2000. The best news coverage I saw during this endless election was on Chinese TV. Unlike CNN or BBC, they talked about issues and policy rather than poll numbers. And they never interviewed a single raging idiot. It's kind of ironic and/or sad that I got more news out of a state-run Chinese broadcaster than "the most trusted name in news".
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Donald Trump is so anti-establishment that his cabinet will be leading members of the establishment. His chief of staff is one of the chairmen of the establishment. I, for one, will enjoy watching the establishment drain the swamp and fill it with the establishment. Billionaire corporate executives have been kept down long enough. It's about time they took America back from the billionaire corporate executives.