Paul McCartney has officially become an oldies act.
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The show was great - incredible, and I enjoyed every minute of it. But I just have to wonder - why only one song from his latest album? There are some very good songs deserving of the live treatment only Paul can give - songs like "Ever Present Past", "Mr. Bellamy" and more. But I have to admit, Paul has sung much of MAF live - "That Was Me", "House of Wax", "Only Mama Knows" and "Dance Tonight" off the top of my head.
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DrivinFan:
Was the "new"song that Paul played at yesterday's show (In Liverpool) from the Flaming Pie sessions?
I haven't heard the live version in question...but I believe it was this:
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That's it...do you know what year it was produced?
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[quote="yankeefan7"][quote="left hand man"]First off let me say this, the setlist was very appropriate for a celebration of Liverpool. I can understand McCartney dragging out the same old Beatle songs, but that's as far as it goes! My following comments are in regards to his regular tours and his upcoming tour. It's way way way past time that McCartney changed his setlist! I have been sharing this point of view for years. It's always going to be someones first time seeing McCartney, does that mean that the man has to perform the same basic set of songs for the rest of his life? He's given all the Beatle heads the last twenty plus years, it's not his fault if someone wasn't able to see the shows! Paul McCartney is much more than just a freaking Beatle, he has one of the most amazing careers of any artist! There's just no excuse to play the exact same songs year after year after year. This man has hits from every decade since the 60s and he should be performing them! A whole generation of people came up listening to Wings, in fact they were the biggest group of the 70s, and that's documented fact! How many artist have #1 hits that they've never ever performed live? I find it absolutely amazing that anyone wouldn't want this man to perform as much of his fantastic music as humanly possible?? Yes it's time for Paul McCartney to seriously change his setlist, I'd hate for him to look back on his career and think Woulda, shoulda, coulda. The Beatles have been done, redone, and overdone! Let's all e-mail his guitarist Brian Ray and let him know how we feel. I mention him because I e-mailed him and he answered me back, so he does listen to the fans, and he does share info with McCartney. This upcoming tour will determine a lot as far as McCartney being just an old nastalgia act. If he drags out the same old songs yet again, it will be a shame because Paul McCartney can and should do better!! Fans should expect more. Mr. McCartney stop selling yourself and your music short! I totally agree with you. I wonder what a setlist would be like if he let the band pick all the songs. I bet Brian, Rusty, Abe and Wix would like something diferent to play also. I think the band was the ones who got him to do "Too Many People" on the last tour. I don't think it is too much to ask for him to change at least 10-15 songs with different ones considering the length of his total career. He could start out by doing MAF songs beside "Dance Tonight", things like "Only Mama Knows" and "House of Wax" (these were done on promtional tours of MAF and very ferw people saw those shows). Beatle songs like "Rocky Racoon" and "Oh Darling" could replace Beatle songs that have been played to death. Instead of "Jet" all the time, do something like "Helen Wheels" from "BOR". Throw out "Letting Go" and "C Moon" and do "Juniors Farm" and "Old Siam Sir". Finally, everyone understands you have to do the "hits' but think McCartney needs to really understand that people appreciate his whole career not just the Beatles and even Wings. Good to see that some McCartney fans care enough to challenge his work, rather than blindly accept anything he does.
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I second the motion. I accept that he needs to do some hits and a fair number of Beatles songs to keep the non-fans from getting restless, but that's easily accomplished while giving the set some variety. Using the set list posted at the beginning of this thread, let me suggest the following: DROP: Long and Winding Road Blackbird Jet Let Me Roll It Live and Let Die Eleanor Rigby C Moon Penny Lane ADD Junior's Farm I'm Looking Through You Only Mama Knows Lovely Rita Friends to Go No More Lonely Nights That Was Me Baby's Request
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DrivinFan:
That's it...do you know what year it was produced?
I'm not quite sure...but by Paul's appearance in the video, I think it pre-dates the Flaming Pie era...it looks to be more so from the Flowers in the Dirt/Off The Ground era...
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Insanity! Forcing the 66 years old to do something, which he doesn't want to do! 99.99 of his fans adore his music and love him the way he is! So, please don't push so hard because everything you are hope for would only go to the trash bin. People would only blame Paul if his concert at Liverpool Sound were a flop! Not a fan!
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Bruce M.:
I second the motion. I accept that he needs to do some hits and a fair number of Beatles songs to keep the non-fans from getting restless, but that's easily accomplished while giving the set some variety. Using the set list posted at the beginning of this thread, let me suggest the following: DROP: Long and Winding Road Blackbird Jet Let Me Roll It Live and Let Die Eleanor Rigby C Moon Penny Lane ADD Junior's Farm I'm Looking Through You Only Mama Knows Lovely Rita Friends to Go No More Lonely Nights That Was Me Baby's Request
Bruce,Sadly He Will never drop Eleanor Rigby,Blackbird,Jet,Live and let Die,Penny Lane or long and Winding Road. I have a Couple Suggestions To Drop though: -Drive My Car -Got To Get You Into My Life -I'll Follow the Sun -Flaming Pie(GIVE US SOMETHING ELSE FROM THAT ALBUM MAN!!) And The Setlist He gave for Liverpool was perfect for them, I mean they haven't seen him Play since 2003??(Tell me if i'm Wrong) So His set has changed since then.
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Long and Winding Road Blackbird Jet Let Me Roll It Live and Let Die Eleanor Rigby C Moon Penny Lane These songs are brilliant and avid fans love to listen to it!
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[quote="nellie apple"] Insanity! Forcing the 66 years old to do something, which he doesn't want to do! 99.99 of his fans adore his music and love him the way he is! So, please don't push so hard because everything you are hope for would only go to the trash bin. People would only blame Paul if his concert at Liverpool Sound were a flop! Not a fan! What you are describing is not a fan, but more like a stalker.
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nellie apple:
Insanity! Forcing the 66 years old to do something, which he doesn't want to do! 99.99 of his fans adore his music and love him the way he is! So, please don't push so hard because everything you are hope for would only go to the trash bin. People would only blame Paul if his concert at Liverpool Sound were a flop! Not a fan!
I agree. While I'm sure we could all dream up our 'ultimate' Paul McCartney set list, there's no way anyone should be disappointed with what he's delved out in all his tours since the 1989-90 world tour. Additionally, he works his butt off while on stage and seemingly wants to ensure we (the audience) thoroughly enjoys ourselves.
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rich n:
nellie apple:
Insanity! Forcing the 66 years old to do something, which he doesn't want to do! 99.99 of his fans adore his music and love him the way he is! So, please don't push so hard because everything you are hope for would only go to the trash bin. People would only blame Paul if his concert at Liverpool Sound were a flop! Not a fan!
I agree. While I'm sure we could all dream up our 'ultimate' Paul McCartney set list, there's no way anyone should be disappointed with what he's delved out in all his tours since the 1989-90 world tour. Additionally, he works his butt off while on stage and seemingly wants to ensure we (the audience) thoroughly enjoys ourselves.
youre both insane. it isnt about an 'ultimate' set list. its about something we havent heard in a while. REAL fans want to hear stuff he hasnt played in a while, not the other way around.
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After meeting Paul at the Ecce Cor Meum signing, I was determined to finally see the genius in action strumming the hofner. and eventually after a couple of years the Liverpool sound arrived. so I applied for the "premium" tickets and awaited Maccaday, with high hopes and fears of the set list. at the stadium i was amazed that i was charged £75 for the seat in the kop , £35 would be more apt - a small dot in a white shirt was all i could see , although the large screens seemed to confirm it was Paul. Liverpool Council hang your heads in shame ! On to the music, For a concert virgin who has actually shook hands with sir Paul , I was in an awkward position, as an avid fan of the best left ( and right ) bass guitarist in the world , I was hoping for electric , electric , electric , but also looking forward to the piano standards of Jude , let it be ,and live and let die. personally, I was disappointed with, in Liverpool - in Liverpool , The long and winding road and blackbird. and i loved , flaming pie, dance tonight , Calico skies, All the Grohl tracks, day in the life with "alternative" lyrics and lady Madonna and i saw her. For an international superstar like paul with the best back catalogue on the planet, I was just about happy. Overall , I was more pleased than sad and i am 70/30 about going to his next tour - if it happens. I hope and pray that we get Helter Skelter Golden Slumbers listen to what the man said helen wheels things we said today all my loving and even london Town , which is great.
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REAL fans want to hear stuff he hasnt played in a while, not the other way around.
I haven't seen him since the 2005 tour. I know he's done a few shows since then, buts its not like he tours year round year after year, so to me its been a while regardless. I wouldn't mind hearing some of the suggestions from this forum, but imho if anyone has earned the right to play what he wants Paul has. The public also has the right to not buy a ticket. I'm guessing he'll still manage to sell out every venue somehow. PostScript - I think Live and Let die (probably because of the pyrotechnics) is the best live song of his repertoire even though its not one of my favorites among his vast catalogue.
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Is sad to see it..but after 40 years on music bussines..He only has those 20-25 song to play in a concert..?.
.. PLEASE CHANGE THE SONGS...¡¡¡¡¡¡
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It was my first Macca show and what really got to me almost straight away was hearing the inane routines inbetween the songs (or during 'Hey Jude'...the girls and boys bit) when there was actually a very real IN THE NOW event going on. There were a few little 'Anybody in from Speke?' bits but you were left feeling that Paul had not given a thought as to what he was gonna do onstage today other than go through the motions with the band. Well the 'band as therapy' game is over, Paul. This band and Paul McCartney have this incredible all-time-high position in the respect charts and have made into THE NOW but it's time to BUILD upon that by finding a GOAL in music and message. Much further along this 'greatest hits forever' line and this train will come off. Trust me. And it's not a matter that will last the forthcoming tour. The Kiev gig needs to be the last of the mode he's been in otherwise by the end of the tour he will be fending off media and fan attacks from everywhere. "This sandwich cannot be sold tomorrow"
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I think after nearly 46 years as a famous rock star, Paul like the Stones,The Who,Brian Wilson,Paul Simon,Ray Davies and Bob Dylan are all regarded to a degree as oldie acts. If you have been around that long, no matter what you play, it's regarded as a nostalgia act. Regards to Paul's setlist,i think he could take out the whole lot, and still have a new song list that everyone knew.
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it's obvoius after his shows in '89 the setlist will be the same for big parts, it's now 19 years later and some of you still don't understand it. Thats pretty slow. He plays for fans who haven't seen his show every tour. I did see him every tour from '89 and indeed I understand why some fans are hoping for other songs. But hey hearing a day in the life for the first time ever live was worth the trip.
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Was it a coincidence that it was Peter Kay who introduced him? He is also a performer who hasnt changed his act in a while
Anywhoo, the only "hit's" from previous recent shows I havent heard live, but want to are Hello Goodbye, Michelle, Helter Skelter and Let Them In, but unless there are a lot of suprises in the new tour, I'll probably only be going to one show.
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When Wings rehearsed for their 75/76 tour,they were rehearsing pretty solidly from May to early September....basically four months. Although not a tour,the Anfield concert looked as if the band had been rehearsing for about 4 days. I've just sat through a video of the tv broadcast and was quite frankly bored. Other than a few changes of set,it didn't seem that much different to concerts in previous years. The Hey Jude singalong,the Live And Let Die fireworks/pyrotechnics....it all seems so predictable now. Of course,live concerts are for those who attend them and are not designed to be watched on tv but even so,from what I saw,there seemed a total lack of imagination in the set list and a rather bland music-by-numbers approach from what has always been a rather anonymous band. Time to give Wix the heave-ho and get someone else in with a bit more passion and bite.