THE GLOBAL WINGS THREAD
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audi:
Bjorn Karlsson:
21st Century Paul:
Bjorn Karlsson:
21st Century Paul:
audi:
21st Century Paul:
this is one guy (ok, one vocal coach) explaining Paul's technique of Fake struggle in the highs. He doesn't mention McCartney but it's just the same (even when Paul talks between the songs in concerts, sometimes). very simple, just 1 minute (from 1.30 on)
I like this somewhat. The guitar is quite effective, but it's out of your vocal-range, bro. Why don't don't re-record it in the same key but sing it an octave lower?
I guess you mean Rags to Riches, cause you have quoted another post.
Out of my vocal range? why? I don't get it.
I don't believe much in "vocal ranges" anyway... I don't think I would like it then, it will happen just the same that when I did it with my song You've Got Yourself... one octave lower felt dead to me. Same old story for me, it could have been higher, it could have been lower, but in the end I just have to choose a key to do it. This time Elvis did it in E, so I thought me doing it in A would go with the feeling Elvis did it and with the differences of the way he sang and my way.
I get the vocal range thing, I think you'd get a powerful version singing lower. The guitar and piano and VERY high vocal isn't quite as effect-full, when you sing a lot of falsetto, I think you get less power compared to with your full voice in a lower register, just my thoughts! This ain't gonna be an Idol competition anyhow...
I think you should try and listen to some powerful singers that REALLY do low register great... This man does it REALLY low, but the voice is old and weak for being him, but the message really gets to the listener, and even more effect-fully with his low register!
Bjorn I think you're just confused, I never sing falsetto. Though I know it's easy to mistake falsetto for natural voice, It has happened lots of times to me about others, sometimes I'm not even sure yet sometimes when Paul sings live. (Or others, I'm not sure of some parts of your video of Maybe I'm Amazed for instance...) I don't agree with the power thing at all... singing fuller in lower register is just unbalanced, damaging ("not contributing to your voice" a vocal teacher will say, some even say, "no-one can sing like that"). And powerless... (even medicians say it about talking, "if you want to raise your loudness without damaging your voice you must raise your pitch before") you feel a lack of freedom in your singing. When you're balanced you can do whatever you want to do, you feel free and you enjoy it. Singing in that "powerful" way is no fun, unless you really want to be Hurt. I'm not in focusing on the pain. I'm not gonna sing like Johnny Cash sings in that song, no fun and I wouldn't be able to sing the melody I wanted to sing. His feeling is great though.
I think you should try and listen to some powerful singers that REALLY do low register great...
who? my opinion... for instance Elvis here, well, virtually always
Freddie here.. or always or being more modern, Josh Groban or Thom Yorke no way Johnny Cash, from a technical point of view... (it's not I know his stuff but I don't picture him with many vocal freedom at all...) Well, one of the greatest things in music is that everybody is free to do it the way he wants it. Like Joe Cocker, Pavarotti, Johnny Cash, John Lennon, Stevie Wonder...this is not American Idol (Adam doesn't belong in AI anyway)
but I prefer this to this
Let's leave the subject shall we? Freedom to everyone!
Release whatever you want, as this man teaches us!
He's laughing ahead of the beat.
that's latent too...
is he laughing in falsetto?
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21st Century Paul:
audi:
Bjorn Karlsson:
21st Century Paul:
Bjorn Karlsson:
21st Century Paul:
audi:
21st Century Paul:
this is one guy (ok, one vocal coach) explaining Paul's technique of Fake struggle in the highs. He doesn't mention McCartney but it's just the same (even when Paul talks between the songs in concerts, sometimes). very simple, just 1 minute (from 1.30 on)
I like this somewhat. The guitar is quite effective, but it's out of your vocal-range, bro. Why don't don't re-record it in the same key but sing it an octave lower?
I guess you mean Rags to Riches, cause you have quoted another post.
Out of my vocal range? why? I don't get it.
I don't believe much in "vocal ranges" anyway... I don't think I would like it then, it will happen just the same that when I did it with my song You've Got Yourself... one octave lower felt dead to me. Same old story for me, it could have been higher, it could have been lower, but in the end I just have to choose a key to do it. This time Elvis did it in E, so I thought me doing it in A would go with the feeling Elvis did it and with the differences of the way he sang and my way.
I get the vocal range thing, I think you'd get a powerful version singing lower. The guitar and piano and VERY high vocal isn't quite as effect-full, when you sing a lot of falsetto, I think you get less power compared to with your full voice in a lower register, just my thoughts! This ain't gonna be an Idol competition anyhow...
I think you should try and listen to some powerful singers that REALLY do low register great... This man does it REALLY low, but the voice is old and weak for being him, but the message really gets to the listener, and even more effect-fully with his low register!
Bjorn I think you're just confused, I never sing falsetto. Though I know it's easy to mistake falsetto for natural voice, It has happened lots of times to me about others, sometimes I'm not even sure yet sometimes when Paul sings live. (Or others, I'm not sure of some parts of your video of Maybe I'm Amazed for instance...) I don't agree with the power thing at all... singing fuller in lower register is just unbalanced, damaging ("not contributing to your voice" a vocal teacher will say, some even say, "no-one can sing like that"). And powerless... (even medicians say it about talking, "if you want to raise your loudness without damaging your voice you must raise your pitch before") you feel a lack of freedom in your singing. When you're balanced you can do whatever you want to do, you feel free and you enjoy it. Singing in that "powerful" way is no fun, unless you really want to be Hurt. I'm not in focusing on the pain. I'm not gonna sing like Johnny Cash sings in that song, no fun and I wouldn't be able to sing the melody I wanted to sing. His feeling is great though.
I think you should try and listen to some powerful singers that REALLY do low register great...
who? my opinion... for instance Elvis here, well, virtually always
Freddie here.. or always or being more modern, Josh Groban or Thom Yorke no way Johnny Cash, from a technical point of view... (it's not I know his stuff but I don't picture him with many vocal freedom at all...) Well, one of the greatest things in music is that everybody is free to do it the way he wants it. Like Joe Cocker, Pavarotti, Johnny Cash, John Lennon, Stevie Wonder...this is not American Idol (Adam doesn't belong in AI anyway)
but I prefer this to this
Let's leave the subject shall we? Freedom to everyone!
Release whatever you want, as this man teaches us!
He's laughing ahead of the beat.
that's latent too...
is he laughing in falsetto?
I'm impressed.
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Some news here. Some have contacted me because they're making a rock band. One to play covers. They've seen my online stuff and want me to go where they're starting to play together this Friday. Let's see what can come out of this. At least I'll play something for a while.
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Awesome! I've been dragging my feet in my plans to form a band. It's something I'd like to do for at least a year -- while I'm still (relatively) young and pretty.
More importantly, I hope I have enough talent for it. Good luck, Ollie. Your band -- er, YOU'RE gonna need it. Kidding!
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audi:
Awesome! I've been dragging my feet in my plans to form a band. It's something I'd like to do for at least a year -- while I'm still (relatively) young and pretty.
More importantly, I hope I have enough talent for it.
I've tried many times to form a band... but the rest of people seemed to lose interest in music.... you know, you must really like it. I think the only talent needed is to really like music. I think won't be able to refrain to do this.... "Do you know this one?..."
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As far as cover-songs go, I would open with one:
And I'd close with this one: -
audi:
Good luck, Ollie. Your band -- er, YOU'RE gonna need it. Kidding!
Thanks. Well it's not my band, it's their band... they have contacted me. I'll have to follow one beat now. Unless they play "be free with your tempo" style.
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audi:
As far as cover-songs go, I would do this one:
I prefer this one, cause the vocal are soooo crazy:
But few know that song here in Spain, it would be like playing an original, Hey Jude is possible, Soily is... impossible. -
21st Century Paul:
audi:
As far as cover-songs go, I would do this one:
I prefer this one, cause the vocal are soooo crazy:
But few know that song here in Spain, it would be like playing an original, Hey Jude is possible, Soily is... impossible.I need to listen to my Ram CD more. Didn't even know this one existed!
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audi:
Awesome! I've been dragging my feet in my plans to form a band. It's something I'd like to do for at least a year -- while I'm still (relatively) young and pretty.
More importantly, I hope I have enough talent for it. Good luck, Ollie. Your band -- er, YOU'RE gonna need it. Kidding!
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audi:
21st Century Paul:
audi:
As far as cover-songs go, I would do this one:
I prefer this one, cause the vocal are soooo crazy:
But few know that song here in Spain, it would be like playing an original, Hey Jude is possible, Soily is... impossible.I need to listen to my Ram CD more. Didn't even know this one existed!
well, it's an outtake, like A Love For You. If someone has doubts of who's the greater songwriter ever, he has just to take a look at Paul's OUTTAKES.
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vlivantje:
audi:
Awesome! I've been dragging my feet in my plans to form a band. It's something I'd like to do for at least a year -- while I'm still (relatively) young and pretty.
More importantly, I hope I have enough talent for it. Good luck, Ollie. Your band -- er, YOU'RE gonna need it. Kidding!
I don't get the joke
I really don't get it
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well... new news... I've passed the audition. So I can officially say "I'm in a rock and roll band"
I went with my keyboard, they played 2 songs and I was a little bit shy, I didn't know the songs much... But then they started to do I Saw Her Standing There and I cut it loose... It was fun from then on. Some songs we played that you'll know... I saw her standing there Blue suede shoes All shook up Money for Nothing Lay down Sally and at the end the guitar player started played Smoke on the water and I joined in singing the song. I saw her standing there.Paul at the cavern 1999
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Congratulations, Oliver. You are in a rock band!
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21st Century Paul:
vlivantje:
audi:
Awesome! I've been dragging my feet in my plans to form a band. It's something I'd like to do for at least a year -- while I'm still (relatively) young and pretty.
More importantly, I hope I have enough talent for it. Good luck, Ollie. Your band -- er, YOU'RE gonna need it. Kidding!
I don't get the joke
I really don't get it
You don't get the joke - this means YOU'RE BANNED!!!
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Svenn:
Congratulations, Oliver. You are in a rock band!
That's it. Thank you very much. "smooooooke on the waaaater..."
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Svenn:
21st Century Paul:
vlivantje:
audi:
Awesome! I've been dragging my feet in my plans to form a band. It's something I'd like to do for at least a year -- while I'm still (relatively) young and pretty.
More importantly, I hope I have enough talent for it. Good luck, Ollie. Your band -- er, YOU'RE gonna need it. Kidding!
I don't get the joke
I really don't get it
You don't get the joke - this means YOU'RE BANNED!!!
I still don't get it. You must remember my English is not very good. Especially for jokes.
I don't have any street talk experience...
"we alll came out to Montreaaaux...."
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remember our "one octave lower"/"powerful" discussion? This is almost one octave lower and "powerful" Factor X this week - Get Back/Hippy Hippy Shake/Hey Jude
is this what you want me do?well, as Elvis said "there is room for everybody" and as Paul said "Damn, I'm not gonna!"
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as not pretty much is going on here... Time for revival
Hey Jude-The Beatles and me I added: -another lead vocal, sometimes it sounds just like Paul so it's hard to hear there are 2 voices really -another piano, playing a little bit different than original -a very distorted electric guitar
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I'm just realizing how terrific is this even without lead vocals. Who Wants to Live Forever - Queen (and only Queen :lol
, instrumental/karaoke version