Sam Leach - KEEP
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Hi dB. I can understand you thinking the Monkees were something special because of the hype that was generated around them by investors desperate to protect their `commodity'. But hype will never be able to withstand the ravages of time. Talent always will. Cheers. Sam.
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Sam Leach:
Hi dB. I can understand you thinking the Monkees were something special because of the hype that was generated around them by investors desperate to protect their `commodity'. But hype will never be able to withstand the ravages of time. Talent always will. Cheers. Sam.
Yes I agree, I have been involved in the music industry for many years - The Beatles to this day stands up to anything released nowadays. Great chat'n with you Sam
I will get back to your thread soon to see what others say about the Beatles vs Monkees. - Have a great day/night. Cheers dB
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I can't believe people are mentioning the Monkees being as good as the Beatles either, Sam. There is no way. I just looked through my 45s and I don't have a single Monkees 45s from the 60's and I know I never bought a Monkees album. Who has withstood the test of time--The Beatles. I am 52 and a first generation fan, but I go to the concerts, this board and various lists and see very young fans, including my own niece and nephews.
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Good morning
Seems I have missed quite a discussion
I'll try to catch up later today. btw, The Beatles rule planet Earth and the entire galaxy!!!
~Tashi
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Hi Sam Agree with your sentiment about the Monkees. I was just joking in my previous post. They are a fun band but I don't think they even come anyway near the top 100 bands of all time -- they had great fun bubble gum type of music -- I think good comparisons would be to groups like The Thompson Twins, Culture Club, KC and the Sunshine Band, etc. Cheers! Mike
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Mike I'm so relieved...I thought the world was going mad. Although you said you were joking I thought you meant just that one instance. Now if this was April I'd have understood. BTW April 1st 1960 was my first full time show. Occasionally I thought that to be an appropriate date. Cheers. Sam.
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The Monkees were a marketing ploy to compete with The Beatles. I can't compare them either because it would be like comparing oranges to light bulbs; they're not in the same league. The Monkees could barely play their guitars live and the fact that they mispelled "monkeys" doesn't help cover up the fact that they were put together in order to compete with The Beatles. There were so many talented underground groups in the 60s that go unmentioned today: The Pretty Things is one. Has anyone ever heard their album SF Sorrow? It's a masterpiece. Other groups/artists: Donovan, Sagittarius, Peanut Butter Conspiracy, The Zombies, The Kinks..
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Hi Lisa (MagicalMysteryGirl). Funnily you should mention The Pretty Things as they played for me in 1961 at the Tower. They were very good I agree. And your commnets re Beatles vs Monkees is spot on...in my opinion. But they seemed a nice bunch of lads who enjoyed their opportunities. Re the misspelling of The `Monkees' that was clearly deliberate. The powerful people that financed them would hardly be so illiterate. Love and hugs. Sam.
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Sam Leach:
Hi Lisa (MagicalMysteryGirl). Funnily you should mention The Pretty Things as they played for me in 1961 at the Tower. They were very good I agree. And your commnets re Beatles vs Monkees is spot on...in my opinion. But they seemed a nice bunch of lads who enjoyed their opportunities. Re the misspelling of The `Monkees' that was clearly deliberate. The powerful people that financed them would hardly be so illiterate. Love and hugs. Sam.
Did they really? Groovy.
I'm in love with their album SF Sorrow, out the same year as Sgt. Pepper and considered to be right up there with Pepper for best albums of '67.
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Hi Lisa I'll have to try and get a copy of that. Love and hugs. sam.
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Sam Leach:
Hi Lisa I'll have to try and get a copy of that. Love and hugs. sam.
It's a definite must. Let me know what you think when you get it.
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Hi Sam, I never thought the Monkees were as good as the Beatles. I think they were just a tv show that was supposed tob e based on the beatles A HArd Days Night from what I heard. It has been said they were responsible for today's boy band thing. John said it once I don't want to be a mop top if you want mop tops the Monkees are right there man! Mike it sounds like George was just mad when he compared them to Paul's solo work. IT would be a joke to put Paul's solo work in the same category as the Monkees. Magical Mystery GIrl I heard one song of Sagittarius that i like on your sation but I'm not sure what the name of it is.
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Hi Paulfan Yes It has been said the Monkees were responsible for our boy bands. But we mustn't hold that against them. Love and hugs Sam.
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Paulfan:
Magical Mystery GIrl I heard one song of Sagittarius that i like on your sation but I'm not sure what the name of it is.
Awww! Thanks for tuning into my station!
Sagittarius has some great tunes with powerful harmonies. The name of the Sagittarius album on my station is Present Tense. It's most likely one of the following songs: My World Fell Down Lonely Girl Would You Like To Go The Keeper Of The Games Sister Marie Again, thanks for tuning in. I love sharing music with people.
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Sam, I agree that we can't hold that against them. Magical Mystery Girl I just heard clips from some of Sagittariu'ss songs on the web and they are pretty good and The Pretty Things sound like the Beatles or should I says George's music. THey are also pretty good. I think My World Fell Down might be the song I'm thinking of. What is it about?
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Record industry suits manufactured the Monkees, & they are responsible for the current crop of manufactured boy bands. The Beatles were friends that met and recommended each other, I imagine it was that way for the rest of the great groups. But the monkees were put together by suits. Auditions were held for the group. Stephen Stills of CSNY tried out for the "Peter" role. They did a good job, because the Monkees had a great run and some great hits. People remember them fondly, I know I do. Writers like King/Goffin and Neil Diamond wrote for them. This is what is happening now, groups are being put together by industry personal. I don't think you can manufacture the charisma the Beatles had though. So I don't think that kind of group will reach their heights.
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Paulfan:
Sam, I agree that we can't hold that against them. Magical Mystery Girl I just heard clips from some of Sagittariu'ss songs on the web and they are pretty good and The Pretty Things sound like the Beatles or should I says George's music. THey are also pretty good. I think My World Fell Down might be the song I'm thinking of. What is it about?
My World Fell Down is one of my favorites by them. It's such a powerful song... a gem that goes by very unnoticed. The chorus goes something like: " 'Cause it's wintertime And the leaves are brown Since you went away My world fell down"
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Magical Mystery GIrl, IT ounds like the song takes place in the wintertime and he is sad about a girl leaving if I'm correct. Sam,What is meant by the term men in suits?
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DennyC:
Record industry suits manufactured the Monkees, & they are responsible for the current crop of manufactured boy bands. The Beatles were friends that met and recommended each other, I imagine it was that way for the rest of the great groups. But the monkees were put together by suits. Auditions were held for the group. Stephen Stills of CSNY tried out for the "Peter" role. They did a good job, because the Monkees had a great run and some great hits. People remember them fondly, I know I do. Writers like King/Goffin and Neil Diamond wrote for them. This is what is happening now, groups are being put together by industry personal. I don't think you can manufacture the charisma the Beatles had though. So I don't think that kind of group will reach their heights.
I couldn't agree with you more. It really disappoints me to see bands thrown together, because they don't have that chemistry that self-formed bands have. It takes a lot of time and patience to put your own band together; it's actually the most difficult part of a musician's life: finding other musicians to work with who share your visions and aspirations. When a band is thrown together by these rich money-hungry business men, they lack the natural relationship that charms people and the friendship that holds them together through thick and thin. The Beatles not only were a phenomenal band, they were all friends who willingly chose to work with each other and you could tell by their ease with the public that they were enjoying themselves and doing it for the musical passion they shared. Nowadays, it's had to relate to bands as human beings because their personality isn't very present.
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Paulfan:
Magical Mystery GIrl, IT ounds like the song takes place in the wintertime and he is sad about a girl leaving if I'm correct. Sam,What is meant by the term men in suits?
I believe he is using the weather as a metaphor for his emotions.