Sam Leach - KEEP
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Starr:
Hi Anna me too i always get headaches when the weather changes as it is now, never good on me! What exactly are you guys talking about anyways here? lol i'm so lost! Hi Nick aww i hope you hear from Connie, which other thread were you talking about?
geoff baker, Paul's spokesman and PR was fired or quit (I'm still not sure about that...) - anyway their business relationship is over and saddly it looks like that also their friendship of 15 years is over... now some fans are sad about it cause they think geoff did a good job for 15 years, was loyal to paul, the family and the fans and other think he wasn't a loyal friend and that his work wasn't good at all... this is what the whole argument on this board is about basically... i have to say i never had a problem with him and i'm impressed by some stories and i'm simply disappointed when someone says that he can't lose the respect of paul's fans cause they never did respect him - that obviously is not true... i don't like it when people speak like that on behalf of all the fans right now, i simply think that both sides can not accept that there are different opinions on geoff baker and that some people just went into that discussion to harsh by acting like as if all of paul's fans hated him which is simply not true!!!
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Hi Anna ahh thank you for explaining that all to me lol i felt funny you guys were all having this discussion and i had no clue! lol!! You bring up some good points, i always felt there's two sides to everything no one's perfect, since i'm not too familiar with him or what he's done i cant really comment on it. But you guys go ahead and continue lol!!
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anna_medlicka:
sam rocks... i hope he doesn't decide to leave the board because of the events of the last 48 hours this would be a big loss for the community
Well, if people really want this, LET IT BE. Apologise and stop the sniping. I don't think even Sam knows the whole story. The two men that do know (Paul and Geoff) aren't about to go sharing it with the whole world, either.
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but sam, like anyone else, is allowed to voice his opinion and disagree with other people... and he certainly doesn't deserve the treatment he got... and i also don't think that other people deserved a treatment they got here too simply for liking geoff baker... there are one or two people who are extremely nasty and bitchy and it isn't much of a surprise this all got cooking cause hte people who like geoff baker were provoked... i'm extremely disappointed that some people who don't like geoff baker act like as if the all the fans hated him and that he never did anything for anyone - i don't know if it's that what other people pissed too
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All I know is what I've read, the first article where Heather is blamed for Geoff's sacking and the statement on the BBC website where Paul says he fired Geoff and Heather had nothing to do with it. I have never met Geoff, thus he never did anything for me. The Blaine incident was over the top, IMO, but otherwise it is between Paul and Geoff as far as I'm concerned.
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this "his words against his" situation worries me - many people tend to say "i believe paul", ok... but i also thought "geoff baker has got nothing to lose"...
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Guys, this isn't the best place to discuss this. Since we don't know the full story, draw a line under it, please.
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anna_medlicka:
geoff baker, Paul's spokesman and PR was fired or quit (I'm still not sure about that...) - anyway their business relationship is over and saddly it looks like that also their friendship of 15 years is over... now some fans are sad about it cause they think geoff did a good job for 15 years, was loyal to paul, the family and the fans and other think he wasn't a loyal friend and that his work wasn't good at all... this is what the whole argument on this board is about basically... i have to say i never had a problem with him and i'm impressed by some stories and i'm simply disappointed when someone says that he can't lose the respect of paul's fans cause they never did respect him - that obviously is not true... i don't like it when people speak like that on behalf of all the fans right now, i simply think that both sides can not accept that there are different opinions on geoff baker and that some people just went into that discussion to harsh by acting like as if all of paul's fans hated him which is simply not true!!!
I'm a Paul Fan i don't really know who Geoff Baker is But anyways does it matter, stop arguing about it!!! Paul will still make great music whatever, im looking forward to his solo album and the one with Brian Wilson i heard about (i hope the latter isn't just a rumour) But whatever Just Stop This Crap People!!!
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please don't tell only me to stop that "crap" - there has been spread a lot more "crap" in another thread by other people and i'm cheeky enough to say that they sometimes just did cause they knew it would offend people - the people who like baker so go there and tell them the same...
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Don't worry Anna it wasnt you i was talking to It was the people who are offending that i was talking to, and if they gotta problem they can come round my house and deal with me
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Hey everyone...seems I've come in at the wrong time... *goes to leave for door* Well, I've read the past couple pages because I've missed a day or two here (and once you do that, especially during heated battles) you miss a lot. Good thing Geoff has gotten fired (or whatever) for name dropping Heather. Sure, the man may be very smart (the club sandwich, for example), but I'm afraid he's used his talents for the wrong thing. Sam, I know you're not really ignoring me...I was just testing you.
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glass_0ni0n:
Guys, this isn't the best place to discuss this. Since we don't know the full story, draw a line under it, please.
For goodness' sakes, LET IT BE!! Has anyone seen Sam? I hope this childish, bullshit sniping hasn't put him off coming here. If you can't be mature about this, please carry out your pointless, devoid of facts debate on another thread. :
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It really doesn't matter what we think about Geoff. It only matters what Paul thinks. That is my last comment on the situation.
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Hi, Sam Leach Congrats for Liverpool victory last wednesday 2 X 0 I´m preparing a 10 days trip to Patagonia, and I´ve discovered a Cavern club pub in Buenos Aires that is having a beatle band contest how´s your book hav you any to sell still? I need 1 to give as a gift to a friend ? Starr, Paulfan and other of the o gang in this thread nice to come back again, my computer was a little sick but now is getting better and I have no idea what does it matter this Geoff stuff
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Hi Everyone wow this has gotten heavy here, hope we can all just talk about something else now and not get too wrapped up in whatever was being discussed? we dont want this thread locked eh? Sam's probably been busy this week is my guess, i'm sure he'll post over the weekend sometime. New topic.... What's everyone doing over the weekend? Anything fun exciting? I'm having some friends over tomorrow and your all welcome to come too!! And hello Chimbi Good to see you back, glad your computer is working better for you i have those troubles often too!
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I'll be working.
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~ Well if we hwta to speak about Geoff Baker we will & Can!!! people make commenst & opinions as if they are fact!!!~ Geoff Baker is a great person & always had Pauls best interest's... only Geoff & Paul no why he is no longer .. in Paul's imploy~
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harleyblues:
~ Well if we hwta to speak about Geoff Baker we will & Can!!! people make commenst & opinions as if they are fact!!!~ Geoff Baker is a great person & always had Pauls best interest's... only Geoff & Paul no why he is no longer .. in Paul's imploy~
*clap clap clap*
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Hello everyone. WOW !!!! I'm at least 6 pages behind and have been reading all these interesting posts for the past hour. I've been away for two days as I was quite ill with a nasty chest infection which I caught after Liverpool's great win last Saturday. There's been more debate about the Maccca/Geoff issue than in the media. Most of the posts had some merit but as requested lets put a stop to a topic that few know much about...only what they read. Mike hit the nail on the head when he mentioned the `red flag to a bull' when Dom mentioned the Sun rag. Geoff did a mostly great job for Paul for over 15 years and shouldn't be slagged by anyone. I'm still a little iffy but I'll make sure I keep up with you all. BTW I do read EVERY single post even the two slagging me. I didn't respond to those two as I want to draw a line under it all. My main interest now is to see Europe kick USA's butts in the Ryder Cup. But in the friendliest way possible, heh, heh. Cheers all. Sam xxxx
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Hi Mike. Thanks for you kind defence and explanation of my position re the slagging of Geoff. It's clear that you have vast experience in this field and your comments were very much appreciated....and spot on as usual. Have a great weekend. Cheers mate. Sam.