Could the new Kanye/McCartney single All Day be his best?
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Shawn:
I tend to agree more with Spike Lee. The term is degrading and dehumanizing no matter who uses it. We should remember the history of the word, I think. He showed this effectively in the film Bamboozled. I'm not trying to stir up unnecessary debate, or get off topic, but I find this new song simplistic, sensationalist, and from a songwriting/recording perspective, downright dreadful. Just my two cents...
I need to check out that film. And this latest song is crap. Period.
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RMartinez:
The Beatles arrive in London: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d2/The_Beatles_arrive_at_Schiphol_Airport_1964-06-05_-_Crowd_916-5134.jpg Kanye West arrives in New York: http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/02/09/2583A51800000578-2946217-image-m-42_1423503658159.jpg NOT the same. NOT even close.
Can somebody pleeeeeease tell me why his wife gets mobbed by fans in public more often than not? What is her actual talent that warrants her fame? What does she do other than simply exist? Have I missed something -- or are too many of my fellow Americans just that stupid?
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yankeefan7:
audi:
I grew up in the south, and I went to school with and had many, many white friends. It amused me more than it did anger me when a friend's dad would greet me with the occasional "What's happenin', my brother?." I knew that they were trying to, let's ay, relate. But, no -- white folks using the "n-word" (in either incarnation) directly at black folks is ill-advised.
"But, no -- white folks using the "n-word" (in either incarnation) directly at black folks is ill-advised" IMO - McCartney being on this record is just as bad because it is like he approves of it being used and he is a white man. I also think this is amazing from the man who tells us the story of the song "Blackbird" being about the Civil Rights struggle and then finds it no problem "rolling with it" while songs says the term not once but many times.
Lets not forget Lennon used the word in the title of a single in 1972, no less, before hip hop existed.
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And if I'd known Lennon back when he was on The D-i-c-k Cavett Show (was I alive then?), I would've been one of his black friends that he said got the point to that song.
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Going back to start and read what the one who posted this thread ask, makes me wonder if this is just a joke? is this song an official West/McCartney release or have someone just made an amateur edit with a random McCartney outtake mixed in at the end?
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I think the mods would've advised by now, if this were bogus -- especially with such a polarizing term in the song.
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Yeah, if not exactly his best since "Jet" then maybe his most controversial since "Hi Hi Hi" or "Give Ireland Back to the Irish"? I believe those two songs specifically were banned from radio play. I don't think I can remember the last time someone was offended by the contents (and/or context?) of a Paul McCartney song?
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Hendrix Ibsen:
Yeah, if not exactly his best since "Jet" then maybe his most controversial since "Hi Hi Hi" or "Give Ireland Back to the Irish"? I believe those two songs specifically were banned from radio play. I don't think I can remember the last time someone was offended by the contents (and/or context?) of a Paul McCartney song?
Here in America people have lost their high profile jobs for using that word.
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Double up with the same post. I must have pushed the button twice. If it was Penny Lane / Strawbery Fields Forever, I guess people would say it's a double a-sided smash hit, but...
well whatever...
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Has McCartney talked about this song anywhere? Is he part of the whole song or is it Kanye West who mixed him in and then McCartney said ok I approve half a sleep? This song, plus how it is received, confuses me.
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it confuses many of us
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Hip hop/ rap is overtly occultists. They use the symbols and gestures everywhere as if they're proud of it. Rock music always had it too, but was more covert, or hidden. Hip hop/rap is in your face with it. It's just too negative and suggestive for me. I fail to see how it can influence anyone with a positive nature other than draw people into the occult in aggressive and subconscious ways. I think it's dangerous.
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Paul said he is working with Kanye because he is a poet.
: I'm starting to believe the old Paul is dead rumours.
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oobu24:
it confuses many of us
Yes, I am confused as well!
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jennywren:
oobu24:
it confuses many of us
Yes, I am confused as well!
I feel more sad and disappointed than confused.
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Cord:
Hip hop/ rap is overtly occultists. They use the symbols and gestures everywhere as if they're proud of it. Rock music always had it too, but was more covert, or hidden. Hip hop/rap is in your face with it. It's just too negative and suggestive for me. I fail to see how it can influence anyone with a positive nature other than draw people into the occult in aggressive and subconscious ways. I think it's dangerous.
Hip hop is also American. It's very strange for me as an outsider to read about all this. I thought Kanye West was the biggest American thing right now and Paul McCartney is collaborating with him, having a hit with the black singer Rihanna, and suddenly there is talk about racism. This is a very dark thread. I signed up here on McCartney.com because I'm a fan but now I'm starting to doubt whether I belong here. It's like Paul McCartney vs. America and I'm just an eskimo who stumbled into here.
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Hendrix Ibsen:
Cord:
Hip hop/ rap is overtly occultists. They use the symbols and gestures everywhere as if they're proud of it. Rock music always had it too, but was more covert, or hidden. Hip hop/rap is in your face with it. It's just too negative and suggestive for me. I fail to see how it can influence anyone with a positive nature other than draw people into the occult in aggressive and subconscious ways. I think it's dangerous.
Hip hop is also American. It's very strange for me as an outsider to read about all this. I thought Kanye West was the biggest American thing right now and Paul McCartney is collaborating with him, having a hit with the black singer Rihanna, and suddenly there is talk about racism. This is a very dark thread. I signed up here on McCartney.com because I'm a fan but now I'm starting to doubt whether I belong here. It's like Paul McCartney vs. America and I'm just an eskimo who stumbled into here.
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Nah, you're fine, Hendrix. But certain people on here have gone pretty far off the deep end. All genres have a fair amount of crap, but hip hop has at least as strong a socially conscious streak as rock ever did. See, for example, [http://www.latimes.com/la-oe-zirin23apr23-story.html[/url] and [url]http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/22/arts/music/social-minded-hip-hop-makes-a-comeback.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0](http://www.latimes.com/la-oe-zirin23apr23-story.html[/url] and [url]http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/22/arts/music/social-minded-hip-hop-makes-a-comeback.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0)
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Thanks Bruce! I will take a look at it.
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JoeySmith:
yankeefan7:
audi:
I grew up in the south, and I went to school with and had many, many white friends. It amused me more than it did anger me when a friend's dad would greet me with the occasional "What's happenin', my brother?." I knew that they were trying to, let's ay, relate. But, no -- white folks using the "n-word" (in either incarnation) directly at black folks is ill-advised.
"But, no -- white folks using the "n-word" (in either incarnation) directly at black folks is ill-advised" IMO - McCartney being on this record is just as bad because it is like he approves of it being used and he is a white man. I also think this is amazing from the man who tells us the story of the song "Blackbird" being about the Civil Rights struggle and then finds it no problem "rolling with it" while songs says the term not once but many times.
Lets not forget Lennon used the word in the title of a single in 1972, no less, before hip hop existed.
Yes he did and I thought that was horrible also.
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audi:
RMartinez:
The Beatles arrive in London: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d2/The_Beatles_arrive_at_Schiphol_Airport_1964-06-05_-_Crowd_916-5134.jpg Kanye West arrives in New York: http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/02/09/2583A51800000578-2946217-image-m-42_1423503658159.jpg NOT the same. NOT even close.
Can somebody pleeeeeease tell me why his wife gets mobbed by fans in public more often than not? What is her actual talent that warrants her fame? What does she do other than simply exist? Have I missed something -- or are too many of my fellow Americans just that stupid?
"Have I missed something -- or are too many of my fellow Americans just that stupid?" In a nutshell, the answer is yes. IMO - She is nothing but a two bit whore whose main claim to fame was a sex video. Her marriage to Kris Humphries was nothing more than a publicity stunt for the stupid TV reality series.