And now the time is near....
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cfergoid:
lazydynamite88:
BOYCIE:
lazydynamite88:
getting back on topic here......you know that theory that we all have about 'concert vocals sounding better when you are actually at the gig than in retrospect via an actuall recording...? well yes it is sort of true...but then folks i want re-introduce you all with a date in my history 16th jan 1990..my first of 9 macca gigs,,i though he sounded amazing..he was pushing 50 [sort of]....infact i have heard many people on here convinced that mccartney was actually sounding better on his tours in this century rather than circa 1990. listen and weep all you negative nillies..
this is an awesome vocal of hey jude...now thats when paul could still sing his signiture babies good...no comparisson to anything he has offered at a piano in this century. and if your still not convinced at how amazing paul[and band] sounded refresh yourself with this...I think Paul's vocals were at there best overall in 2002/03 compared to the early '90's, it was a shock to me how his voice was much better than in '89/'90 and '93 as a whole. I agree certain songs were sweeter back in the late '80's and early '90's, but the screaming vocals were lacking back then, he struggled through Maybe I'm Amazed in '89/'90 like he does today, excruciatingly so, 2002/03 it was much improved. (Maybe I'm Amazed 1990)
(Maybe I'm Amazed 2002)to be fair 'boycie' i did point out 'maybe im amazed' as the one glaring ommision.....however in general there is NO CONTEST..1990 wins hands down........okay there where elements of him managing his voice better in circa 2002 ,however the purity was already beginning to decline with his age.
The version of Hey Jude is no better than bootlegs from 02/03, he was in superb form vocally on that tour. I've also got a bootleg of the 05 tour and it's strange, he sounds great on some songs and ok on others. MIA and Jenny Wren really aren't cringeworthy like others have suggested. Strangely he sings a few songs better these days than he does on the 05 bootleg!!
NO CHANCE im not accepting that mate..infact come prove it..give me a link to a vocal of hey jude around 2002/2003 that sounds as good vocally as the one i provided from 1990.......impossible,but feel free to prove me wrong dear
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cfergoid:
Hey Jude at Red Square, the vocal is as good IMO. Maybe not quite as fluid.as you said...its good,its light years ahead of more recent 'hey judes' but not in the same class as 1990 [expecially the one i supplied]....good effort though cfergoid
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CMackbird:
Why could he just not have done HI HI HI & Give Ireland back to the Irish at the Jubilee
Haha, what a combination!! Class! Both songs would definitely have turned the discussions and criticism in the media into a completely different direction.
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Nancy R:
lazydynamite88:
in the interest of fair play i have to add the maybe im amazed sounded every bit as bad as i remembered
so its a fact then, even back then when he was still singing great,pauls biggest problem was his own editing in a live context!OMG! That was excruciatingly bad! I'm glad he didn't sound like that when I saw him in '90 in Atlanta!
yeah not a patch on Hey Jude from the same gig.
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He should have sang We All Stand Together at the opening ceremony. I'm not kidding. What better place to sing that song than at the Olympics. He would have gotten roundly criticized but so what? He got criticized anyway. Might as well go down with a smirk. I think it would have been awesome. My biggest fear is that after all of these very traumatic weeks for Paul and his fans, and all this conversation about what Paul should do, that Paul will change ... ... precisely nothing. That would be truly discouraging.
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lazydynamite88:
getting back on topic here......you know that theory that we all have about 'concert vocals sounding better when you are actually at the gig than in retrospect via an actuall recording...? well yes it is sort of true...but then folks i want re-introduce you all with a date in my history 16th jan 1990..my first of 9 macca gigs,,i though he sounded amazing..he was pushing 50 [sort of]....infact i have heard many people on here convinced that mccartney was actually sounding better on his tours in this century rather than circa 1990. listen and weep all you negative nillies..
this is an awesome vocal of hey jude...now thats when paul could still sing his signiture babies good...no comparisson to anything he has offered at a piano in this century. and if your still not convinced at how amazing paul[and band] sounded refresh yourself with this...I don't have a clue why but that recording has been raised up half a tone. I mean the Fs have become F sharps, so it sounds younger. If raised up a whole tone he would have sound like a teen. If 2 like a young woman... etc.
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lazydynamite88:
in the interest of fair play i have to add the maybe im amazed sounded every bit as bad as i remembered
so its a fact then, even back then when he was still singing great,pauls biggest problem was his own editing in a live context!LAWR and Maybe I'm Amazed have not been "tranposed"
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jonh81:
Nancy R:
lazydynamite88:
in the interest of fair play i have to add the maybe im amazed sounded every bit as bad as i remembered
so its a fact then, even back then when he was still singing great,pauls biggest problem was his own editing in a live context!OMG! That was excruciatingly bad! I'm glad he didn't sound like that when I saw him in '90 in Atlanta!
yeah not a patch on Hey Jude from the same gig.
Guys, that's a Wings performance. I'd bet the farm on it. The person who posted that has it from January '90. No way.
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21st Century Paul:
lazydynamite88:
in the interest of fair play i have to add the maybe im amazed sounded every bit as bad as i remembered
so its a fact then, even back then when he was still singing great,pauls biggest problem was his own editing in a live context!LAWR and Maybe I'm Amazed have not been "tranposed"
What do you mean Ollie?
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Michelley:
He should have sang We All Stand Together at the opening ceremony. I'm not kidding. What better place to sing that song than at the Olympics. He would have gotten roundly criticized but so what? He got criticized anyway. Might as well go down with a smirk. I think it would have been awesome. My biggest fear is that after all of these very traumatic weeks for Paul and his fans, and all this conversation about what Paul should do, that Paul will change ... ... precisely nothing. That would be truly discouraging.
I hope Paul will take something away from the past couple of live performances, because as much as I love him, he just can't pull off some of those vocals anymore. ops: It's time to modify some things. Not to give up and get discouraged, but to take an honest look at what he can do.
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Plastic Soul Man:
21st Century Paul:
lazydynamite88:
in the interest of fair play i have to add the maybe im amazed sounded every bit as bad as i remembered
so its a fact then, even back then when he was still singing great,pauls biggest problem was his own editing in a live context!LAWR and Maybe I'm Amazed have not been "tranposed"
What do you mean Ollie?
I've been surfing to this concert now. From Let it Be till the end the of the show the tracks are altered. (that or Paul changed they key in all that songs... but no way Paul would do Let It Be on piano on C sharp, it's absurd...) Raised up one half of a tone. Intentionally or not. Probably while changing the sound of the recording from 48000 to 44100 Hz... sound stuff. Just like when you've got a recording of a male singer and you raise it up 5 half of a tones then it sounds like a female singer. Somethings quite funny to do. I love to hear sometimes how the female Paul, Freddie or even Ollie would have been. So, if you do this with any Paul recording you'll get the same effect, the same sound on his voice, "younger". It changes the sounds of the recording, so Paul voice sounds different too. The Beatles did that intentionally on a couple of tracks I think. When I'm 64 and Here There and Everywhere were recorded in a lower key and then uppitched to make Paul sound younger.
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21st Century Paul:
Plastic Soul Man:
21st Century Paul:
lazydynamite88:
in the interest of fair play i have to add the maybe im amazed sounded every bit as bad as i remembered
so its a fact then, even back then when he was still singing great,pauls biggest problem was his own editing in a live context!LAWR and Maybe I'm Amazed have not been "tranposed"
What do you mean Ollie?
I've been surfing to this concert now. From Let it Be till the end the of the show the tracks are altered. (that or Paul changed they key in all that songs... but no way Paul would do Let It Be on piano on C sharp, it's absurd...) Raised up one half of a tone. Intentionally or not. Probably while changing the sound of the recording from 48000 to 44100 Hz... sound stuff. Just like when you've got a recording of a male singer and you raise it up 5 half of a tones then it sounds like a female singer. Somethings quite funny to do. I love to hear sometimes how the female Paul, Freddie or even Ollie would have been. So, if you do this with any Paul recording you'll get the same effect, the same sound on his voice, "younger". It changes the sounds of the recording, so Paul voice sounds different too. The Beatles did that intentionally on a couple of tracks I think. When I'm 64 and Here There and Everywhere were recorded in a lower key and then uppitched to make Paul sound younger.
Ollie, I'm no expert on the subject, but ... I'm pretty darn sure that you're supposed to exhale that stuff.
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21st Century Paul:
Plastic Soul Man:
21st Century Paul:
lazydynamite88:
in the interest of fair play i have to add the maybe im amazed sounded every bit as bad as i remembered
so its a fact then, even back then when he was still singing great,pauls biggest problem was his own editing in a live context!LAWR and Maybe I'm Amazed have not been "tranposed"
What do you mean Ollie?
I've been surfing to this concert now. From Let it Be till the end the of the show the tracks are altered. (that or Paul changed they key in all that songs... but no way Paul would do Let It Be on piano on C sharp, it's absurd...) Raised up one half of a tone. Intentionally or not. Probably while changing the sound of the recording from 48000 to 44100 Hz... sound stuff. Just like when you've got a recording of a male singer and you raise it up 5 half of a tones then it sounds like a female singer. Somethings quite funny to do. I love to hear sometimes how the female Paul, Freddie or even Ollie would have been. So, if you do this with any Paul recording you'll get the same effect, the same sound on his voice, "younger". It changes the sounds of the recording, so Paul voice sounds different too. The Beatles did that intentionally on a couple of tracks I think. When I'm 64 and Here There and Everywhere were recorded in a lower key and then uppitched to make Paul sound younger.
It is a little bit like Cher then on that Believe song then. I get ya.
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audi:
jonh81:
Nancy R:
lazydynamite88:
in the interest of fair play i have to add the maybe im amazed sounded every bit as bad as i remembered
so its a fact then, even back then when he was still singing great,pauls biggest problem was his own editing in a live context!OMG! That was excruciatingly bad! I'm glad he didn't sound like that when I saw him in '90 in Atlanta!
yeah not a patch on Hey Jude from the same gig.
Guys, that's a Wings performance. I'd bet the farm on it. The person who posted that has it from January '90. No way.
Say goodbye to the farm, i was at the gig 2 days before that one and it was as bad then, i even have a bootleg video of the show i was at and it was painful.
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audi:
21st Century Paul:
Plastic Soul Man:
21st Century Paul:
lazydynamite88:
in the interest of fair play i have to add the maybe im amazed sounded every bit as bad as i remembered
so its a fact then, even back then when he was still singing great,pauls biggest problem was his own editing in a live context!LAWR and Maybe I'm Amazed have not been "tranposed"
What do you mean Ollie?
I've been surfing to this concert now. From Let it Be till the end the of the show the tracks are altered. (that or Paul changed they key in all that songs... but no way Paul would do Let It Be on piano on C sharp, it's absurd...) Raised up one half of a tone. Intentionally or not. Probably while changing the sound of the recording from 48000 to 44100 Hz... sound stuff. Just like when you've got a recording of a male singer and you raise it up 5 half of a tones then it sounds like a female singer. Somethings quite funny to do. I love to hear sometimes how the female Paul, Freddie or even Ollie would have been. So, if you do this with any Paul recording you'll get the same effect, the same sound on his voice, "younger". It changes the sounds of the recording, so Paul voice sounds different too. The Beatles did that intentionally on a couple of tracks I think. When I'm 64 and Here There and Everywhere were recorded in a lower key and then uppitched to make Paul sound younger.
Ollie, I'm no expert on the subject, but ... I'm pretty darn sure that you're supposed to exhale that stuff.
I've been called "Spain's Ear", though now I'm not much into it. I guess Paul would say I'm a "musical monster".
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Plastic Soul Man:
21st Century Paul:
Plastic Soul Man:
21st Century Paul:
lazydynamite88:
in the interest of fair play i have to add the maybe im amazed sounded every bit as bad as i remembered
so its a fact then, even back then when he was still singing great,pauls biggest problem was his own editing in a live context!LAWR and Maybe I'm Amazed have not been "tranposed"
What do you mean Ollie?
I've been surfing to this concert now. From Let it Be till the end the of the show the tracks are altered. (that or Paul changed they key in all that songs... but no way Paul would do Let It Be on piano on C sharp, it's absurd...) Raised up one half of a tone. Intentionally or not. Probably while changing the sound of the recording from 48000 to 44100 Hz... sound stuff. Just like when you've got a recording of a male singer and you raise it up 5 half of a tones then it sounds like a female singer. Somethings quite funny to do. I love to hear sometimes how the female Paul, Freddie or even Ollie would have been. So, if you do this with any Paul recording you'll get the same effect, the same sound on his voice, "younger". It changes the sounds of the recording, so Paul voice sounds different too. The Beatles did that intentionally on a couple of tracks I think. When I'm 64 and Here There and Everywhere were recorded in a lower key and then uppitched to make Paul sound younger.
It is a little bit like Cher then on that Believe song then. I get ya.
No, nothing to do with that. (if sound engineers where not busy creating things like the Cher one music would sound much better...)
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You joked at the possibility that I "treated" Paul and then making him sound as in him prime in kind of five minutes. You see!, it's possible, and I haven't even met Paul. Just change the pitch of any Paul recording up half a note and you'll get the same. I'm gonna post an example of what has happened. A short one though.
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21st Century Paul:
You joked at the possibility that I "treated" Paul and then making him sound as in him prime in kind of five minutes. You see!, it's possible, and I haven't even met Paul. Just change the pitch of any Paul recording up half a note and you'll get the same. I'm gonna post an example of what has happened. A short one though.
Like John on Real Love then
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audi:
Ollie, I'm no expert on the subject, but ... I'm pretty darn sure that you're supposed to exhale that stuff.