The ..2012.... Political thread
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mustangsally10:
Not all politicians are corrupt...there are many who are real public servants and make careful votes and decisions to benefit their constituents . It's easy to find the corrupt ones ...just follow the money. Case in point... except for wealthy CEOs american people have not benefited from the outsourcing of our manufacturing sector. So when a bill comes up in congress (as it did recently) to reduce the outsourcing of american jobs just look who voted against it and why. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/28/AR2010092802768.html these senators voted against it: http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=111&session=2&vote=00242 why did they vote against it? Because these people gave money to support their reelection ...it was funneled through the US Chamber of Commerce and notice most contributors are from India http://thinkprogress.org/2010/10/13/chamber-foreign-funded-media/ and where does the US export many of their jobs : India of course I think you can correctly assume that the senators who voted against Americans economic interest at this challenging time are corrupt crooks. Easy wasn't that...now notice that the crooks are mostly republicans and bingo you've got it . The republicans are the party of big business and big business doesn't really care about the American people. For the most part big business only does the right thing when they are regulated and made to do so.
So you completely ignore that there are some perfectly valid arguments that can be made against this bill (which according to The Washington Post, not known for any pro-Republican bias, as having been cobbled together by Democrats at the last minute to pander for votes in the congressional election). And therefore, anyone who voted against must have done so because they were bribed by foreign agents and are per se corrupt. and Republicans are evil. All i can say to that is that your simplistic views must be an enormous hinderance to your understanding most of what is going on in the world.
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EADG:
mustangsally10:
Not all politicians are corrupt...there are many who are real public servants and make careful votes and decisions to benefit their constituents . It's easy to find the corrupt ones ...just follow the money. Case in point... except for wealthy CEOs american people have not benefited from the outsourcing of our manufacturing sector. So when a bill comes up in congress (as it did recently) to reduce the outsourcing of american jobs just look who voted against it and why. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/28/AR2010092802768.html these senators voted against it: http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=111&session=2&vote=00242 why did they vote against it? Because these people gave money to support their reelection ...it was funneled through the US Chamber of Commerce and notice most contributors are from India http://thinkprogress.org/2010/10/13/chamber-foreign-funded-media/ and where does the US export many of their jobs : India of course I think you can correctly assume that the senators who voted against Americans economic interest at this challenging time are corrupt crooks. Easy wasn't that...now notice that the crooks are mostly republicans and bingo you've got it . The republicans are the party of big business and big business doesn't really care about the American people. For the most part big business only does the right thing when they are regulated and made to do so.
So you completely ignore that there are some perfectly valid arguments that can be made against this bill (which according to The Washington Post, not known for any pro-Republican bias, as having been cobbled together by Democrats at the last minute to pander for votes in the congressional election). And therefore, anyone who voted against must have done so because they were bribed by foreign agents and are per se corrupt. and Republicans are evil. All i can say to that is that your simplistic views must be an enormous hinderance to your understanding most of what is going on in the world.
There was an opportunity to help the American worker at a critical time and the republicans(+5 Dems) chose not to do so. It's apparent that they had to deliver their votes or lose their financial backing from their big business backers whether domestic or foreign. What's been going on in the world is pretty obvious...just look at the carnage from the global financial crisis. It's corruption and greed of big business whether bankers, those in the oil industry or now the mortgage fraud debacle. They are the financial base of the republican party because they know that the repubs will make sure that there will be no constraints on their activity. Yes, the republicans are evil incarnate and there's more : http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-money/domestic-taxes/120667-us-chamber-comes-out-against-senate-outsourcing-bill The republicans listened to their corporate backers and every single one voted to continue outsourcing jobs. I think you're closing your eyes to reality
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mustangsally10:
EADG:
mustangsally10:
Not all politicians are corrupt...there are many who are real public servants and make careful votes and decisions to benefit their constituents . It's easy to find the corrupt ones ...just follow the money. Case in point... except for wealthy CEOs american people have not benefited from the outsourcing of our manufacturing sector. So when a bill comes up in congress (as it did recently) to reduce the outsourcing of american jobs just look who voted against it and why. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/28/AR2010092802768.html these senators voted against it: http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=111&session=2&vote=00242 You strike me as an extremely judgemental person who has a hard time accepting the fact that there are many people in the world who are far different from you and who have different interests. The world's not your morality play. why did they vote against it? Because these people gave money to support their reelection ...it was funneled through the US Chamber of Commerce and notice most contributors are from India http://thinkprogress.org/2010/10/13/chamber-foreign-funded-media/ and where does the US export many of their jobs : India of course I think you can correctly assume that the senators who voted against Americans economic interest at this challenging time are corrupt crooks. Easy wasn't that...now notice that the crooks are mostly republicans and bingo you've got it . The republicans are the party of big business and big business doesn't really care about the American people. For the most part big business only does the right thing when they are regulated and made to do so.
So you completely ignore that there are some perfectly valid arguments that can be made against this bill (which according to The Washington Post, not known for any pro-Republican bias, as having been cobbled together by Democrats at the last minute to pander for votes in the congressional election). And therefore, anyone who voted against must have done so because they were bribed by foreign agents and are per se corrupt. and Republicans are evil. All i can say to that is that your simplistic views must be an enormous hinderance to your understanding most of what is going on in the world.
There was an opportunity to help the American worker at a critical time and the republicans(+5 Dems) chose not to do so. It's apparent that they had to deliver their votes or lose their financial backing from their big business backers whether domestic or foreign. What's been going on in the world is pretty obvious...just look at the carnage from the global financial crisis. It's corruption and greed of big business whether bankers, those in the oil industry or now the mortgage fraud debacle. They are the financial base of the republican party because they know that the repubs will make sure that there will be no constraints on their activity. Yes, the republicans are evil incarnate and there's more : http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-money/domestic-taxes/120667-us-chamber-comes-out-against-senate-outsourcing-bill The republicans listened to their corporate backers and every single one voted to continue outsourcing jobs. I think you're closing your eyes to reality
You seem to be an extremely judgmental person who has a hard time accepting the fact that there are many people in the world who look at things in different ways than you do. The world's not your morality play.
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EADG:
mustangsally10:
Not all politicians are corrupt...there are many who are real public servants and make careful votes and decisions to benefit their constituents . It's easy to find the corrupt ones ...just follow the money. Case in point... except for wealthy CEOs american people have not benefited from the outsourcing of our manufacturing sector. So when a bill comes up in congress (as it did recently) to reduce the outsourcing of american jobs just look who voted against it and why. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/28/AR2010092802768.html these senators voted against it: http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=111&session=2&vote=00242 why did they vote against it? Because these people gave money to support their reelection ...it was funneled through the US Chamber of Commerce and notice most contributors are from India http://thinkprogress.org/2010/10/13/chamber-foreign-funded-media/ and where does the US export many of their jobs : India of course I think you can correctly assume that the senators who voted against Americans economic interest at this challenging time are corrupt crooks. Easy wasn't that...now notice that the crooks are mostly republicans and bingo you've got it . The republicans are the party of big business and big business doesn't really care about the American people. For the most part big business only does the right thing when they are regulated and made to do so.
So you completely ignore that there are some perfectly valid arguments that can be made against this bill (which according to The Washington Post, not known for any pro-Republican bias, as having been cobbled together by Democrats at the last minute to pander for votes in the congressional election). And therefore, anyone who voted against must have done so because they were bribed by foreign agents and are per se corrupt. and Republicans are evil. All i can say to that is that your simplistic views must be an enormous hinderance to your understanding most of what is going on in the world.
The Washington Post, "not known for any pro-Republican bias"? In what parallel universe??? Their editorial page has been screechingly right-wing for years, to the point that even moderate-conservative commentators like Andrew Sullivan have complained about it.
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I say, if an American Company wants to Outsource American Jobs, then their goods should be banned from sale in America. Let the fuçking Chinese that build it - buy it.
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I thought I would share this. I recently asked my friends' little girl what she wanted to be when she grows up. She said she wanted to be President of the United States . Both of her parents, liberal Democrats, were standing there. So I asked her, "If you were President, what would be the first thing you would do?" She replied, "I'd give food and houses to all the homeless people." Her parent beamed. "Wow...what a worthy goal," I told her. "But you don't have to wait until you're President to do that. You can come over to my house and mow the lawn, pull weeds, and sweep my driveway, and I'll pay you $50. Then I'll take you over to the grocery store where the homeless guy hangs out, and you can give him the $50 to use toward food and a new house." She thought that over for a few seconds, then she looked me straight in the eye and asked, "Why doesn't the homeless guy come over and do the work, and you can just pay him the $50?" I said, "Welcome to the Republican Party." Her parents still aren't speaking to me
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EADG:
mustangsally10:
EADG:
mustangsally10:
Not all politicians are corrupt...there are many who are real public servants and make careful votes and decisions to benefit their constituents . It's easy to find the corrupt ones ...just follow the money. Case in point... except for wealthy CEOs american people have not benefited from the outsourcing of our manufacturing sector. So when a bill comes up in congress (as it did recently) to reduce the outsourcing of american jobs just look who voted against it and why. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/28/AR2010092802768.html these senators voted against it: http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=111&session=2&vote=00242 You strike me as an extremely judgemental person who has a hard time accepting the fact that there are many people in the world who are far different from you and who have different interests. The world's not your morality play. why did they vote against it? Because these people gave money to support their reelection ...it was funneled through the US Chamber of Commerce and notice most contributors are from India http://thinkprogress.org/2010/10/13/chamber-foreign-funded-media/ and where does the US export many of their jobs : India of course I think you can correctly assume that the senators who voted against Americans economic interest at this challenging time are corrupt crooks. Easy wasn't that...now notice that the crooks are mostly republicans and bingo you've got it . The republicans are the party of big business and big business doesn't really care about the American people. For the most part big business only does the right thing when they are regulated and made to do so.
So you completely ignore that there are some perfectly valid arguments that can be made against this bill (which according to The Washington Post, not known for any pro-Republican bias, as having been cobbled together by Democrats at the last minute to pander for votes in the congressional election). And therefore, anyone who voted against must have done so because they were bribed by foreign agents and are per se corrupt. and Republicans are evil. All i can say to that is that your simplistic views must be an enormous hinderance to your understanding most of what is going on in the world.
There was an opportunity to help the American worker at a critical time and the republicans(+5 Dems) chose not to do so. It's apparent that they had to deliver their votes or lose their financial backing from their big business backers whether domestic or foreign. What's been going on in the world is pretty obvious...just look at the carnage from the global financial crisis. It's corruption and greed of big business whether bankers, those in the oil industry or now the mortgage fraud debacle. They are the financial base of the republican party because they know that the repubs will make sure that there will be no constraints on their activity. Yes, the republicans are evil incarnate and there's more : http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-money/domestic-taxes/120667-us-chamber-comes-out-against-senate-outsourcing-bill The republicans listened to their corporate backers and every single one voted to continue outsourcing jobs. I think you're closing your eyes to reality
You seem to be an extremely judgmental person who has a hard time accepting the fact that there are many people in the world who look at things in different ways than you do. The world's not your morality play.
Amazing you dismiss everything that has happened because of republican policies . Stunning intellectual and emotional disconnect
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rich n:
I thought I would share this. I recently asked my friends' little girl what she wanted to be when she grows up. She said she wanted to be President of the United States . Both of her parents, liberal Democrats, were standing there. So I asked her, "If you were President, what would be the first thing you would do?" She replied, "I'd give food and houses to all the homeless people." Her parent beamed. "Wow...what a worthy goal," I told her. "But you don't have to wait until you're President to do that. You can come over to my house and mow the lawn, pull weeds, and sweep my driveway, and I'll pay you $50. Then I'll take you over to the grocery store where the homeless guy hangs out, and you can give him the $50 to use toward food and a new house." She thought that over for a few seconds, then she looked me straight in the eye and asked, "Why doesn't the homeless guy come over and do the work, and you can just pay him the $50?" I said, "Welcome to the Republican Party." Her parents still aren't speaking to me
She won't be a real republican until she outsources her work to someone from the other side of town, pays them less and keeps the difference. Forget about the homeless person.
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rich n:
I thought I would share this. I recently asked my friends' little girl what she wanted to be when she grows up. She said she wanted to be President of the United States . Both of her parents, liberal Democrats, were standing there. So I asked her, "If you were President, what would be the first thing you would do?" She replied, "I'd give food and houses to all the homeless people." Her parent beamed. "Wow...what a worthy goal," I told her. "But you don't have to wait until you're President to do that. You can come over to my house and mow the lawn, pull weeds, and sweep my driveway, and I'll pay you $50. Then I'll take you over to the grocery store where the homeless guy hangs out, and you can give him the $50 to use toward food and a new house." She thought that over for a few seconds, then she looked me straight in the eye and asked, "Why doesn't the homeless guy come over and do the work, and you can just pay him the $50?" I said, "Welcome to the Republican Party." Her parents still aren't speaking to me
LOVE IT!!! Reminds me of my company putting up a Now Hiring banner at a fast food restaurant in downtown Chicago. A homeless guy comes up begging for money. They had also watched the guy "working" other people across the street. Anyway, putting up a now hiring banner & him asking for a hand out...duh...go apply for the job. No thanks & he walks away :
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oobu24:
LOVE IT!!! Reminds me of my company putting up a Now Hiring banner at a fast food restaurant in downtown Chicago. A homeless guy comes up begging for money. They had also watched the guy "working" other people across the street. Anyway, putting up a now hiring banner & him asking for a hand out...duh...go apply for the job. No thanks & he walks away :
That's because at least begging brings in enough for him to live. The crappy, minimum-wage McJob - not so much.
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mustangsally10:
EADG:
mustangsally10:
EADG:
mustangsally10:
Not all politicians are corrupt...there are many who are real public servants and make careful votes and decisions to benefit their constituents . It's easy to find the corrupt ones ...just follow the money. Case in point... except for wealthy CEOs american people have not benefited from the outsourcing of our manufacturing sector. So when a bill comes up in congress (as it did recently) to reduce the outsourcing of american jobs just look who voted against it and why. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/28/AR2010092802768.html these senators voted against it: http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=111&session=2&vote=00242 You strike me as an extremely judgemental person who has a hard time accepting the fact that there are many people in the world who are far different from you and who have different interests. The world's not your morality play. why did they vote against it? Because these people gave money to support their reelection ...it was funneled through the US Chamber of Commerce and notice most contributors are from India http://thinkprogress.org/2010/10/13/chamber-foreign-funded-media/ and where does the US export many of their jobs : India of course I think you can correctly assume that the senators who voted against Americans economic interest at this challenging time are corrupt crooks. Easy wasn't that...now notice that the crooks are mostly republicans and bingo you've got it . The republicans are the party of big business and big business doesn't really care about the American people. For the most part big business only does the right thing when they are regulated and made to do so.
So you completely ignore that there are some perfectly valid arguments that can be made against this bill (which according to The Washington Post, not known for any pro-Republican bias, as having been cobbled together by Democrats at the last minute to pander for votes in the congressional election). And therefore, anyone who voted against must have done so because they were bribed by foreign agents and are per se corrupt. and Republicans are evil. All i can say to that is that your simplistic views must be an enormous hinderance to your understanding most of what is going on in the world.
There was an opportunity to help the American worker at a critical time and the republicans(+5 Dems) chose not to do so. It's apparent that they had to deliver their votes or lose their financial backing from their big business backers whether domestic or foreign. What's been going on in the world is pretty obvious...just look at the carnage from the global financial crisis. It's corruption and greed of big business whether bankers, those in the oil industry or now the mortgage fraud debacle. They are the financial base of the republican party because they know that the repubs will make sure that there will be no constraints on their activity. Yes, the republicans are evil incarnate and there's more : http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-money/domestic-taxes/120667-us-chamber-comes-out-against-senate-outsourcing-bill The republicans listened to their corporate backers and every single one voted to continue outsourcing jobs. I think you're closing your eyes to reality
You seem to be an extremely judgmental person who has a hard time accepting the fact that there are many people in the world who look at things in different ways than you do. The world's not your morality play.
Amazing you dismiss everything that has happened because of republican policies . Stunning intellectual and emotional disconnect
] No i'm not. i'm just suggesting that you have an enormous blind spot in your understanding of many other people becauee you seem to need feel morally superior to large groups of people who you don't even know. (e.g., "the republicans are evil incarnate"). Seriously, i dont know anyone over the age of about 14 who makes statements like that.
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Bruce M.:
EADG:
mustangsally10:
Not all politicians are corrupt...there are many who are real public servants and make careful votes and decisions to benefit their constituents . It's easy to find the corrupt ones ...just follow the money. Case in point... except for wealthy CEOs american people have not benefited from the outsourcing of our manufacturing sector. So when a bill comes up in congress (as it did recently) to reduce the outsourcing of american jobs just look who voted against it and why. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/28/AR2010092802768.html these senators voted against it: http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=111&session=2&vote=00242 why did they vote against it? Because these people gave money to support their reelection ...it was funneled through the US Chamber of Commerce and notice most contributors are from India http://thinkprogress.org/2010/10/13/chamber-foreign-funded-media/ and where does the US export many of their jobs : India of course I think you can correctly assume that the senators who voted against Americans economic interest at this challenging time are corrupt crooks. Easy wasn't that...now notice that the crooks are mostly republicans and bingo you've got it . The republicans are the party of big business and big business doesn't really care about the American people. For the most part big business only does the right thing when they are regulated and made to do so.
So you completely ignore that there are some perfectly valid arguments that can be made against this bill (which according to The Washington Post, not known for any pro-Republican bias, as having been cobbled together by Democrats at the last minute to pander for votes in the congressional election). And therefore, anyone who voted against must have done so because they were bribed by foreign agents and are per se corrupt. and Republicans are evil. All i can say to that is that your simplistic views must be an enormous hinderance to your understanding most of what is going on in the world.
The Washington Post, "not known for any pro-Republican bias"? In what parallel universe??? Their editorial page has been screechingly right-wing for years, to the point that even moderate-conservative commentators like Andrew Sullivan have complained about it.
I see a lot more comments about the Post having a liberal bias than having a pro-Repbulican bias. I think you probably do too, whether you agree with them or not. There's also this: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/07/AR2008110702895.html
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Here is the former Spending Cheerleader in Chief Bush. setting the stage for the era of predatory lending and laying the groundwork for the current mortgage fraud debacle ....don't you just miss this guy
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Joe Biden bragged that the Pres. told him that he wanted him remain being his V.P. in the next election ... It's in the news somewhere
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mustangsally10:
Here is the former Spending Cheerleader in Chief Bush. setting the stage for the era of predatory lending and laying the groundwork for the current mortgage fraud debacle ....don't you just miss this guy
EnjoyHere is an explanation of the mortgage fraud debacle:
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Speaking of the mortage, banking, economic crisis ... Barney "Frank declared with his trademark confidence that they were, accusing critics and regulators of exaggerating threats to Fannie?s and Freddie?s financial integrity. And, the Massachusetts Democrat maintained, ?even if there were problems, the federal government doesn?t bail them out.?? Now, it?s clear he was wrong on both points ? and that his words have become a political liability ...". http://www.boston.com/news/politics/articles/2010/10/14/frank_haunted_by_stance_on_fannie_freddie/?p1=News_links
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Altanon:
oobu24:
LOVE IT!!! Reminds me of my company putting up a Now Hiring banner at a fast food restaurant in downtown Chicago. A homeless guy comes up begging for money. They had also watched the guy "working" other people across the street. Anyway, putting up a now hiring banner & him asking for a hand out...duh...go apply for the job. No thanks & he walks away :
That's because at least begging brings in enough for him to live. The crappy, minimum-wage McJob - not so much.
Actually I highly doubt that. It wasn't at mickey ds BTW & it also offered health insurance.
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mustangsally10:
mustangsally10:
Here is the former Spending Cheerleader in Chief Bush. setting the stage for the era of predatory lending and laying the groundwork for the current mortgage fraud debacle ....don't you just miss this guy
EnjoyHere is an explanation of the mortgage fraud debacle:
Serious folks, this is a mess as it could affect not just homes in foreclosure but most home loans taken out in the US within the last 10 years or so. Not that they will come to foreclose on your home if you are in good standing but that there may not be a clear note on the property. You can ask your bank to see your note using this new website: http://action.seiu.org/page/speakout/wheresthenote
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mustangsally10:
mustangsally10:
mustangsally10:
Here is the former Spending Cheerleader in Chief Bush. setting the stage for the era of predatory lending and laying the groundwork for the current mortgage fraud debacle ....don't you just miss this guy
EnjoyHere is an explanation of the mortgage fraud debacle:
Serious folks, this is a mess as it could affect not just homes in foreclosure but most home loans taken out in the US within the last 10 years or so. Not that they will come to foreclose on your home if you are in good standing but that there may not be a clear note on the property. You can ask your bank to see your note using this new website: http://action.seiu.org/page/speakout/wheresthenote
i think it's kind of interesting that a labor union has expanded their self-defined mission to include this sort of activity.
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Bruce M.:
The Washington Post, "not known for any pro-Republican bias"? In what parallel universe??? Their editorial page has been screechingly right-wing for years...
You must be thinking of the Washington Times, not the Washington Post. By the way, Rich N, that was a great story you told! Maybe the fact that your friends aren't speaking to you indicates they know you are right but they're too small to admit it - yet.