The ..2012.... Political thread
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SurSteven:
jaipur:
You should vote for the person that best serves *your* interest. I don't recall any balance in the legislative bodies during Bush or Clinton. Did I miss it??
So, what do independents believe...that makes their believings...better than left wing or right wing believings? ps...And why should we vote for those who "only serve" our interests?
I think independent is now the party for the implant. the guy claiming not to be a REP but really is and wants you to vote for him because he pretending he is not but once elected he will spy on the Dem and independents and than serve his party.. The REP party but the Dem could play this same game. They could run there tea party candidate and there maybe get another like wise thinking person elected under that ticket. However that could back fire and they could end up like Kerry did with Nader ran against him. Again it might be a place for a actual person who sick of both parties and wants change...Nah!! that just for dreamers. It a venue for the Rep to try have a snowball chance at a seat in Washington.
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LCH:
SurSteven:
So, if brown is the new republican messiah and obama the current democrat messiah with raj limbo the conservative as the only self proclaimed messiah...then who are the liberal and independent messiahs?
Obama is a liberal and a Democrat. He was the MOST liberal Senator before his run for President. Liberal thinkers want to take care of everyone in lieu of encouraging personal accountability. They believe that there are excuses for all human conditions that supercede the right to fail. Cradle to grave nursemaiding is the seed for this current healthcare debate. The current bill is a mess of a misguided compromise. The biggest concern is that bills like this, once enacted, are difficult to undo. We should move slowly and prudently. The debate should not be rushed. Brown is not a messiah, but his election WILL put balance back into the picture, allowing a brake on the Democrat super majority in the Senate. Most Americans want balance in politics. They are uncomfortable with too much power on any one side.
The Dem have the super majority?? Did anybody tell them? I don't think they understand this or it been so long since they had any power they forgot how to use it. I just can't understand if they are the majority why are they asking the Rep what they think?? I so confused.
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Please note: There has been a title change Politics of yesterday, today and thoughts of tomorrow are always welcome here Looking ahead .... it looks like Obama is already campaigning [for 2012?] (as seen in Ohio yesterday).
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[Karl] Rove [, the White House adviser whom George W. Bush called his political "architect," ] maintains the 2003 invasion was the most momentous act of Bush's presidency and the right response to the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, even though Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein wasn't responsible. http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/03/03/karl-rove-admits-mistake-in-advising-bush-on-iraq-invasion-respo/ US politicians are just a bunch of insane and socially dangerous idiots. Nurse!
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The_Fool:
it looks like Obama is already campaigning [for 2012?] (as seen in Ohio yesterday).
What? He promised to get a star from the sky? Such a lovely president!
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"US politicians are just a bunch of insane and socially dangerous idiots. Nurse!" "What? He promised to get a star from the sky? Such a lovely president!" It's the same in every country... There must be something greater than politics !
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Here's a song to sample - Mr. President by Skinny Molly http://www.skinnymollyrocks.com/index.htm
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Here's one that'...es 10 times better and 10 times older... Let's Work Together ~ Canned Heat
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The nuts jobs are offering Photo shots with them in St Paul. Sen Bachmann and Ouiter Palin the Stepford politicians are shaking down St Paul tonight. 10,000 to have you picture taken wth dumb and dumber. A fool and there money are soon parted.. It shakedown time in St Paul tonight only fools invited.
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appletart2:
10,000 to have you picture taken wth dumb and dumber. A fool and there money are soon parted.. It shakedown time in St Paul tonight only fools invited.
really?! I didn't get an invite Oh yeah ... that is because I am the_fool not fool So many of those politicians are really pissing me off .... it is what is best for them - their own self interests .... No longer WE THE PEOPLE .... not even listening to the people.
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Do I hear term limits support!
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The sky the limit for Sara Palin. Next, Sara Palin toilet paper. Something useful and non bio degradable of course
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Many incumbents will get their term limits .... because they did not listen to WE THE PEOPLE ..... and they will have deserved to be kicked out of office. They represent US the people .... and they do not respond to e-mail, phone calls and refuse to go on radio and television talk shows or even show up in the places that elected them??!? (When they were running for their seats - they sure made the appearances etc...). I know they are changing my Vote
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How come this isnt big news everywhere ? : http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/apr/08/barack-obama-nuclear-treaty-russia Its great news Are we to busy looking for negatives to celebrate the positives ? well done Russia and the US Keep the dialog going and ignore the war mongers. A little of this would help with Israel and the middle East in general. Bombing and invasions make things worse.
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Obama's disregard for media reaches new heights at nuclear summit By Dana Milbank Wednesday, April 14, 2010 Washington Post World leaders arriving in Washington for President Obama's Nuclear Security Summit must have felt for a moment that they had instead been transported to Soviet-era Moscow. ... Reporters, even those on the White House beat for two decades, said it was the most restricted set of such meetings they had ever seen. They complained to both the administration and White House Correspondents' Association, which will discuss the matter Thursday with White House press secretary Robert Gibbs. The restrictions have become a common practice for the Obama White House. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/13/AR2010041303067_pf.html
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Poll: 78 percent don't trust big government By LIZ SIDOTI The Associated Press updated 7:56 p.m. ET, Sun., April 18, 2010 WASHINGTON - Can you trust Washington? Nearly 80 percent of Americans say they can't and they have little faith that the massive federal bureaucracy can solve the nation's ills, according to a survey from the Pew Research Center that shows public confidence in the federal government at one of the lowest points in a half-century. complete article: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36629520/ns/politics http://apnews.myway.com/article/20100419/D9F64DD80.html
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All those people who hate government should refuse to accept Social Security, Medicare and most of all should refuse when they benefit from the new Health Care Law (and they will)...only seems appropriate
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Wake up and smell the coffee - the 78% contains a sizable number of Democrats ---- all isn't as well in la - la land as you make it out to be
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The Wing nuts are at it again in the clearly wing nut capital Arizona. The tax payer will be paying for a law to be passed to make anyone running for President to show there birth certificate. Not that they believe this has anything to do with President Obama or anything but the Rep law makers feel that they have enough question that they should change laws forcing Obama to have to show his(even though its been repeatedly posted proven and theres records for all the meat head's to find, 48% of american are not sure or don't believe he american. How much more do we have to take with these wing nuts. Can Rep not have a serious debate anymore or are they reduced their politics to bad reality TV mentality.
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I was in Eugene OR on Thur and Palin was speaking there today.. Gee I missed the 250 a night talk about nothing. I see where she in court today trying to put a 22 kid in prison for 50 years for tapping into her email address. Gee if you don't want in on the front page of the newspaper don't send it in a email..Bonehead 101. but let hang the 22 year old kid for bring down the whole Palin Vice Presidency because Palin is a bonehead and sent a email to confirm it. You'd think she have bigger fish to fry..