The 2012 and beyond Political Thread - Part 2
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audi:
Jobs Report for June: The numbers are out (well, to be released officiallly tomorrow) Over 126,000 jobs added for June, 2012. That makes the 27th consecutive month of private-sector job-growth under this President. If Obama is a Socialist, he really stinks at it.
Another important thing to consider: If it weren't for the Republican governors' "divide and conquer" union/government-jobs slashes, the unemployment rate would be at approximate 6.5%.
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(I'm glad I got out when I did) Mormons quit church in mass resignation ceremony http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/01/us-usa-utah-mormons-idUSBRE86000N20120701
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re. Obama Care Ok, everyone in favor prove to all that there are not already appoximately 13,000 pages of regulations (drafted by attorneys) for the law & more to come 13,000 pages alone is astronomical And how high would that stack be & how much would it weigh : : I certainly hope the 13,000 pages were counted on reader friendly font with wide friendly margins for notation. A green law, I think not How many trees will be sacrificed : Go ahead, make my day Will it be 20,000 pages when they are finished or will it be more : And what do I see already - an attorney & financial advisor dream come true ... they will find loopholes for the wealthy & those of lesser means will $$$ suffer.
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audi:
Jobs Report for June: The numbers are out (well, to be released officiallly tomorrow) Over 126,000 jobs added for June, 2012. That makes the 27th consecutive month of private-sector job-growth under this President. If Obama is a Socialist, he really stinks at it.
well, socialism leads to zero unemployment it's capitalism, especially extreme capitalism who leads to unemployement
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audi:
(I'm glad I got out when I did) Mormons quit church in mass resignation ceremony http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/01/us-usa-utah-mormons-idUSBRE86000N20120701
I didn't even received communion, I refused when I was 7. (now that's pretty normal but then I was a pioneer here). I just didn't believe in that and I didn't mind the possible presents. I was already ME back then... I've never had confession in my life. If I did someday I'll probably drive the priest mad for 2 reasons: -I would not agree with what he will say -I would need days to confess for 34 years
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audi:
Jobs Report for June: The numbers are out (well, to be released officiallly tomorrow) Over 126,000 jobs added for June, 2012. That makes the 27th consecutive month of private-sector job-growth under this President. If Obama is a Socialist, he really stinks at it.
Analysts were expecting the number above, but the official number is 80,000+ -- better than the last report but still slow growth. Nonetheless, i'll take slow geowth over no growth anyday.
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audi:
audi:
Jobs Report for June: The numbers are out (well, to be released officiallly tomorrow) Over 126,000 jobs added for June, 2012. That makes the 27th consecutive month of private-sector job-growth under this President. If Obama is a Socialist, he really stinks at it.
95,000 jobs.
The trouble with this and any economic news ..... is who is doing the reporting? I checked many sources ..... and it can look great with one source and like crap with another report .... Even CNN money had it look bad (and I thought they were part of the Obama cabinet ) It is tough to find the independent reporting. What I have also noticed is a trend of reporting outstanding numbers of new jobs for the month on page 1 and then one or two weeks later saying the jobs number is not that good .... on page 79 .... Does anybody know a Socialist Government that is successful?
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The_Fool:
audi:
audi:
Jobs Report for June: The numbers are out (well, to be released officiallly tomorrow) Over 126,000 jobs added for June, 2012. That makes the 27th consecutive month of private-sector job-growth under this President. If Obama is a Socialist, he really stinks at it.
95,000 jobs.
...What I have also noticed is a trend of reporting outstanding numbers of new jobs for the month on page 1 and then one or two weeks later saying the jobs number is not that good .... on page 79 ...
That has been a gripe of mine for years. Simialr frustration with approval ratings, too. Sometimes I think the corporate-run mainstream media manipulates information for a variety of reasons. They certainly don't report the news we need. When I was in college, studying journalism, there was an annual list that would come out: The 10 Most Under-Reported Stories Of The Year. It is staggering what gets disretarded. Overall, I have faith in their reporting.
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The_Fool:
audi:
audi:
Jobs Report for June: The numbers are out (well, to be released officiallly tomorrow) Over 126,000 jobs added for June, 2012. That makes the 27th consecutive month of private-sector job-growth under this President. If Obama is a Socialist, he really stinks at it.
95,000 jobs.
The trouble with this and any economic news ..... is who is doing the reporting? I checked many sources ..... and it can look great with one source and like crap with another report .... Even CNN money had it look bad (and I thought they were part of the Obama cabinet ) It is tough to find the independent reporting. What I have also noticed is a trend of reporting outstanding numbers of new jobs for the month on page 1 and then one or two weeks later saying the jobs number is not that good .... on page 79 .... Does anybody know a Socialist Government that is successful?
I can't answer your last question because is too ambiguous (What do you mean with "socialist government" and what do you mean with "successful"?) But sure you can find an independent source. Yourself. That's the best thing to do. What you see around instead of what any media says. It's kind of easy to know if job offers are increasing or not (especially when you're looking for a job). You may know someone that is searching and people already on companies may tell you what is happening in their company (if they're firing, looking for new people... or BOTH!) Yes, it's pretty local but it's true. I guess what you matters to you the most is what happens in your area anyway. For a broader research you can ask online. but never the mass media... (they could be interested in distorting the truth or simply repeating something that's not true)... first hand truth. That's the best thing to do in economy and the most difficult.... Like "Everybody on the TV is saying that.... but it makes no sense, I have seen that the oppossite is happening..." And you become an economic "fool on the hill"
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The_Fool:
audi:
audi:
Jobs Report for June: The numbers are out (well, to be released officiallly tomorrow) Over 126,000 jobs added for June, 2012. That makes the 27th consecutive month of private-sector job-growth under this President. If Obama is a Socialist, he really stinks at it.
95,000 jobs.
The trouble with this and any economic news ..... is who is doing the reporting? I checked many sources ..... and it can look great with one source and like crap with another report .... Even CNN money had it look bad (and I thought they were part of the Obama cabinet ) It is tough to find the independent reporting. What I have also noticed is a trend of reporting outstanding numbers of new jobs for the month on page 1 and then one or two weeks later saying the jobs number is not that good .... on page 79 .... Does anybody know a Socialist Government that is successful?
Actually, social democracies (where people choose a more socialist government by democratic means...voting) are the most successful economically and in contentment(happiness). http://www.forbes.com/2009/05/05/world-happiest-places-lifestyle-travel-world-happiest.html generally the countries are in northern Europe and include Denmark, Finland and the Netherlands. So to answer your question yes, there are many successful socialist (social democratic) governments.
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mustangsally10:
The_Fool:
audi:
audi:
Jobs Report for June: The numbers are out (well, to be released officiallly tomorrow) Over 126,000 jobs added for June, 2012. That makes the 27th consecutive month of private-sector job-growth under this President. If Obama is a Socialist, he really stinks at it.
95,000 jobs.
The trouble with this and any economic news ..... is who is doing the reporting? I checked many sources ..... and it can look great with one source and like crap with another report .... Even CNN money had it look bad (and I thought they were part of the Obama cabinet ) It is tough to find the independent reporting. What I have also noticed is a trend of reporting outstanding numbers of new jobs for the month on page 1 and then one or two weeks later saying the jobs number is not that good .... on page 79 .... Does anybody know a Socialist Government that is successful?
Actually, social democracies (where people choose a more socialist government by democratic means...voting) are the most successful economically and in contentment(happiness). http://www.forbes.com/2009/05/05/world-happiest-places-lifestyle-travel-world-happiest.html generally the countries are in northern Europe and include Denmark, Finland and the Netherlands. So to answer your question yes, there are many successful socialist (social democratic) governments.
yes, that's the best "socialism/capitalism" balance, found specially on Scandinavia and another European countries
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mittens has an outsourcing problem, for sure
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Mitt Romney is not President ... Obama cannot blame him for America's problems ... even though this ad trys to make the case. The time has long since past when America should blame the current President for her problems and No One Else! Yesterday, Obama said America is heading in the right direction --- NOT With unemployment in excess of 8% for the 41st month. If discouraged workers are included in the calculation (the U6 unemployment rate) it skyrockets to 15% Headed in the right direction (under his guidance) NO WAY And that brings up honesty in Obama's ads, The Washington Post awarded the President with 4 Pinocchios (big lies) in reference to attack ads against Romney. btw - regarding exportation of jobs the President is so proud of "saving" GM, which also happens to export approximately 70% or more of its work to other countries Perhaps there is a truism found in the President's words - America should head to the right for the next election and leave the sitting President Left Behind
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Perhaps the video was too complex so I'll try to explain. Mittens life's work has been as a vulture capitalist. The great recession that we are still trying to dig out from was caused by the economic philosophy and dealings of vulture capitalists. That of loose or no regulation. No regard for the fall out of their uber money making schemes. No responsibility for their dealings. Will do ANYTHING to make more profit no matter who it hurts and even when it hurts our country. mittens is on record doing all these things..he and people like him are THE PROBLEM. And he is still advocating for the same policies...Got it now : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : More lies from mittens...VERIFIED Neither he nor his followers can be trusted with the truth.
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Andy_Shofar:
Mitt Romney is not President ... Obama cannot blame him for America's problems ... even though this ad trys to make the case. The time has long since past when America should blame the current President for her problems and No One Else! Yesterday, Obama said America is heading in the right direction --- NOT With unemployment in excess of 8% for the 41st month. If discouraged workers are included in the calculation (the U6 unemployment rate) it skyrockets to 15% Headed in the right direction (under his guidance) NO WAY And that brings up honesty in Obama's ads, The Washington Post awarded the President with 4 Pinocchios (big lies) in reference to attack ads against Romney. btw - regarding exportation of jobs the President is so proud of "saving" GM, which also happens to export approximately 70% or more of its work to other countries Perhaps there is a truism found in the President's words - America should head to the right for the next election and leave the sitting President Left Behind
Tell me why I should vote for Romney. How will it benefit me to support him?
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21st Century Paul:
mustangsally10:
The_Fool:
audi:
audi:
Jobs Report for June: The numbers are out (well, to be released officiallly tomorrow) Over 126,000 jobs added for June, 2012. That makes the 27th consecutive month of private-sector job-growth under this President. If Obama is a Socialist, he really stinks at it.
95,000 jobs.
The trouble with this and any economic news ..... is who is doing the reporting? I checked many sources ..... and it can look great with one source and like crap with another report .... Even CNN money had it look bad (and I thought they were part of the Obama cabinet ) It is tough to find the independent reporting. What I have also noticed is a trend of reporting outstanding numbers of new jobs for the month on page 1 and then one or two weeks later saying the jobs number is not that good .... on page 79 .... Does anybody know a Socialist Government that is successful?
Actually, social democracies (where people choose a more socialist government by democratic means...voting) are the most successful economically and in contentment(happiness). http://www.forbes.com/2009/05/05/world-happiest-places-lifestyle-travel-world-happiest.html generally the countries are in northern Europe and include Denmark, Finland and the Netherlands. So to answer your question yes, there are many successful socialist (social democratic) governments.
yes, that's the best "socialism/capitalism" balance, found specially on Scandinavia and another European countries
I personally don't like heading in the Socialist direction -- I won't vote that way.
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Someone in an earlier post said to vote --- for how things are going in your area ... in my area we have high unemployment (that has been going on since 2009) ..... all starting in 2009: above the national average in unemployment high foreclosures houses underwater high bankruptcy higher debts emergency managers for cities, schools, local government - *all were better 4 years ago .... Good point .... I should consider all these and ask myself am I better off now or better off 4 years ago
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The_Fool:
Someone in an earlier post said to vote --- for how things are going in your area ... in my area we have high unemployment (that has been going on since 2009) ..... all starting in 2009: above the national average in unemployment high foreclosures houses underwater high bankruptcy higher debts emergency managers for cities, schools, local government...
"Starting" in 2009? Starting???????????? All of the above are a continuance of the economic collapse of 2008.
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audi:
The_Fool:
Someone in an earlier post said to vote --- for how things are going in your area ... in my area we have high unemployment (that has been going on since 2009) ..... all starting in 2009: above the national average in unemployment high foreclosures houses underwater high bankruptcy higher debts emergency managers for cities, schools, local government...
"Starting" in 2009? Starting???????????? All of the above are a continuance of the economic collapse of 2008.
It boggles the mind
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audi:
Andy_Shofar:
Mitt Romney is not President ... Obama cannot blame him for America's problems ... even though this ad trys to make the case. The time has long since past when America should blame the current President for her problems and No One Else! Yesterday, Obama said America is heading in the right direction --- NOT With unemployment in excess of 8% for the 41st month. If discouraged workers are included in the calculation (the U6 unemployment rate) it skyrockets to 15% Headed in the right direction (under his guidance) NO WAY And that brings up honesty in Obama's ads, The Washington Post awarded the President with 4 Pinocchios (big lies) in reference to attack ads against Romney. btw - regarding exportation of jobs the President is so proud of "saving" GM, which also happens to export approximately 70% or more of its work to other countries Perhaps there is a truism found in the President's words - America should head to the right for the next election and leave the sitting President Left Behind
Tell me why I should vote for Romney. How will it benefit me to support him?
Can't wait to hear the answer audi This is what it's all about