Wings Over America / Rockshow - how much overlap?
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The Wikipedia entries are not very informative in this respect, so I thought I'd come here and ask. Is there somewhere I can see exactly which shows the tracks on Wings Over America and the upcoming Rockshow DVD were all recorded? I'm just wondering how many songs on Rockshow are video versions of songs I already have on WOA (and in video on the McCartney Years DVD) and how many are as of yet unreleased on CD/DVD.
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ROCKSHOW was filmed at the Wings concerts at Seattle Kingdome and the Los Angeles Forum. You can tell they were different shows, as even in the same song members of the band are wearing different clothes. There is nothing to indicate the versions we hear on the WOA album come from the movie. In other words, different sources. In fact, there has been a great deal written that much of the WOA album was not even recorded in front of an audience. But that is grist for a different mill! Also, I don't think there is any information anywhere as to what shows MAY have been recorded and then put on the album.
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There's a great book called "Eight Arms To Hold You" by Chip Madinger and Mark Easter. It contains all the information you're looking for...and then some!
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RMartinez:
ROCKSHOW was filmed at the Wings concerts at Seattle Kingdome and the Los Angeles Forum. You can tell they were different shows, as even in the same song members of the band are wearing different clothes. There is nothing to indicate the versions we hear on the WOA album come from the movie. In other words, different sources. In fact, there has been a great deal written that much of the WOA album was not even recorded in front of an audience. But that is grist for a different mill! Also, I don't think there is any information anywhere as to what shows MAY have been recorded and then put on the album.
I remember reading that the album has tracks from shows in Seattle, Boston, Los Angeles, and New York. But I may be mis-remembering.
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DrBeatle:
RMartinez:
ROCKSHOW was filmed at the Wings concerts at Seattle Kingdome and the Los Angeles Forum. You can tell they were different shows, as even in the same song members of the band are wearing different clothes. There is nothing to indicate the versions we hear on the WOA album come from the movie. In other words, different sources. In fact, there has been a great deal written that much of the WOA album was not even recorded in front of an audience. But that is grist for a different mill! Also, I don't think there is any information anywhere as to what shows MAY have been recorded and then put on the album.
I remember reading that the album has tracks from shows in Seattle, Boston, Los Angeles, and New York. But I may be mis-remembering.
Could be. I have never read that there even was an indication where or what locales the LP was recorded. But that info may be correct, and there may be a list somewhere. I haven't read everything out there. For all we know, the deluxe edition may contain that info!
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Wings Over America (Venue Locations) V&M: Cincinnati Rock Show: Cincinnati Jet: Cincinnati Let Me Roll It: Cincinnati Spirits of Ancient Egypt: Seattle Medicine Jar: Cincinnati Maybe I'm Amazed: Kansas City Call Me Back Again: Cincinnati Lady Madonna: Detroit Long And Winding Road: Kansas City Live & Let Die: Boston Picasso's Last Words: Boston Richard Cory: L.A. (6/23) Bluebird: Cincinnati I've Just Seen A Face: L.A. (6/23) Blackbird: Boston Yesterday: venue unknown You Gave Me The Answer: L.A. (6/23) Magneto & Titanium Man: Boston Go Now: L.A. (6/23) My Love: Uniondale Listen To What The Man Said: Kansas City Let 'Em In: L.A. (6/23) Time To Hide: New York (5/25) Silly Love Songs: New York (5/25) Beware My Love: Denver Letting Go: Kansas City Band On The Run: Denver Hi Hi Hi: Denver Soily: Denver Rockshow was filmed in three cities: New York, Seattle and Los Angeles
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DrivinFan:
Wings Over America (Venue Locations) V&M: Cincinnati Rock Show: Cincinnati Jet: Cincinnati Let Me Roll It: Cincinnati Spirits of Ancient Egypt: Seattle Medicine Jar: Cincinnati Maybe I'm Amazed: Kansas City Call Me Back Again: Cincinnati Lady Madonna: Detroit Long And Winding Road: Kansas City Live & Let Die: Boston Picasso's Last Words: Boston Richard Cory: L.A. (6/23) Bluebird: Cincinnati I've Just Seen A Face: L.A. (6/23) Blackbird: Boston Yesterday: venue unknown You Gave Me The Answer: L.A. (6/23) Magneto & Titanium Man: Boston Go Now: L.A. (6/23) My Love: Uniondale Listen To What The Man Said: Kansas City Let 'Em In: L.A. (6/23) Time To Hide: New York (5/25) Silly Love Songs: New York (5/25) Beware My Love: Denver Letting Go: Kansas City Band On The Run: Denver Hi Hi Hi: Denver Soily: Denver Rockshow was filmed in three cities: New York, Seattle and Los Angeles
Cool! What's the source for this list?
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RMartinez:
DrivinFan:
Wings Over America (Venue Locations) V&M: Cincinnati Rock Show: Cincinnati Jet: Cincinnati Let Me Roll It: Cincinnati Spirits of Ancient Egypt: Seattle Medicine Jar: Cincinnati Maybe I'm Amazed: Kansas City Call Me Back Again: Cincinnati Lady Madonna: Detroit Long And Winding Road: Kansas City Live & Let Die: Boston Picasso's Last Words: Boston Richard Cory: L.A. (6/23) Bluebird: Cincinnati I've Just Seen A Face: L.A. (6/23) Blackbird: Boston Yesterday: venue unknown You Gave Me The Answer: L.A. (6/23) Magneto & Titanium Man: Boston Go Now: L.A. (6/23) My Love: Uniondale Listen To What The Man Said: Kansas City Let 'Em In: L.A. (6/23) Time To Hide: New York (5/25) Silly Love Songs: New York (5/25) Beware My Love: Denver Letting Go: Kansas City Band On The Run: Denver Hi Hi Hi: Denver Soily: Denver Rockshow was filmed in three cities: New York, Seattle and Los Angeles
Cool! What's the source for this list?
"Eight Arms To Hold You" by Chip Madinger and Mark Easter.
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DrivinFan:
RMartinez:
DrivinFan:
Wings Over America (Venue Locations) V&M: Cincinnati Rock Show: Cincinnati Jet: Cincinnati Let Me Roll It: Cincinnati Spirits of Ancient Egypt: Seattle Medicine Jar: Cincinnati Maybe I'm Amazed: Kansas City Call Me Back Again: Cincinnati Lady Madonna: Detroit Long And Winding Road: Kansas City Live & Let Die: Boston Picasso's Last Words: Boston Richard Cory: L.A. (6/23) Bluebird: Cincinnati I've Just Seen A Face: L.A. (6/23) Blackbird: Boston Yesterday: venue unknown You Gave Me The Answer: L.A. (6/23) Magneto & Titanium Man: Boston Go Now: L.A. (6/23) My Love: Uniondale Listen To What The Man Said: Kansas City Let 'Em In: L.A. (6/23) Time To Hide: New York (5/25) Silly Love Songs: New York (5/25) Beware My Love: Denver Letting Go: Kansas City Band On The Run: Denver Hi Hi Hi: Denver Soily: Denver Rockshow was filmed in three cities: New York, Seattle and Los Angeles
Cool! What's the source for this list?
"Eight Arms To Hold You" by Chip Madinger and Mark Easter.
Very fab! I need to get that one. I was at the Denver show, so the last three songs have great interest to me. As do all the others!! Ha ha!
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Book is a fantastic solo Beatles reference from 1969 to 2000. I've e-mailed the authors and asked them to consider writing a sequel with information from 2000 to the present. They are "thinking about it". BTW...I was at the Uniondale show.
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DrivinFan:
Book is a fantastic solo Beatles reference from 1969 to 2000. I've e-mailed the authors and asked them to consider writing a sequel with information from 2000 to the present. They are "thinking about it". BTW...I was at the Uniondale show.
Very cool! Yeah, that was one fantastic concert, right? I was twelve. Two years later I bought a Rickenbacker bass and still have it.
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RMartinez:
DrivinFan:
Book is a fantastic solo Beatles reference from 1969 to 2000. I've e-mailed the authors and asked them to consider writing a sequel with information from 2000 to the present. They are "thinking about it". BTW...I was at the Uniondale show.
Very cool! Yeah, that was one fantastic concert, right? I was twelve. Two years later I bought a Rickenbacker bass and still have it.
I was 20....it was unreal!! Have you seen the WOA site? http://www.paulmccartney.com/wingsoveramerica/ Contains some great photos that I believe were never released before.
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DrivinFan:
RMartinez:
DrivinFan:
Book is a fantastic solo Beatles reference from 1969 to 2000. I've e-mailed the authors and asked them to consider writing a sequel with information from 2000 to the present. They are "thinking about it". BTW...I was at the Uniondale show.
Very cool! Yeah, that was one fantastic concert, right? I was twelve. Two years later I bought a Rickenbacker bass and still have it.
I was 20....it was unreal!! Have you seen the WOA site? http://www.paulmccartney.com/wingsoveramerica/ Contains some great photos that I believe were never released before.
Oh WOW! Or should I say Oh WOA?? Thanks for sharing that, I will check it out now.
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RMartinez:
DrivinFan:
RMartinez:
DrivinFan:
Book is a fantastic solo Beatles reference from 1969 to 2000. I've e-mailed the authors and asked them to consider writing a sequel with information from 2000 to the present. They are "thinking about it". BTW...I was at the Uniondale show.
Very cool! Yeah, that was one fantastic concert, right? I was twelve. Two years later I bought a Rickenbacker bass and still have it.
I was 20....it was unreal!! Have you seen the WOA site? http://www.paulmccartney.com/wingsoveramerica/ Contains some great photos that I believe were never released before.
Oh WOW! Or should I say Oh WOA?? Thanks for sharing that, I will check it out now.
LOL...enjoy!
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VERY cool WOA site! I WANT THAT DELUXE EDITION!!
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Was just wondering about this myself. Thanks for sharing! I love some of the Rockshow versions better than WOA and the other way around as well. Kept coming back to Macca's neck during the film because one song he's got two necklaces, and the next song he's back to one. I enjoy both the RS and WOA versions a lot though. Always great to have some variety. Now I gotta check out this "Eight Arms To Hold You". Sounds fascinating!
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DrivinFan:
Wings Over America (Venue Locations) V&M: Cincinnati Rock Show: Cincinnati Jet: Cincinnati Let Me Roll It: Cincinnati Spirits of Ancient Egypt: Seattle Medicine Jar: Cincinnati Maybe I'm Amazed: Kansas City Call Me Back Again: Cincinnati Lady Madonna: Detroit Long And Winding Road: Kansas City Live & Let Die: Boston Picasso's Last Words: Boston Richard Cory: L.A. (6/23) Bluebird: Cincinnati I've Just Seen A Face: L.A. (6/23) Blackbird: Boston Yesterday: venue unknown You Gave Me The Answer: L.A. (6/23) Magneto & Titanium Man: Boston Go Now: L.A. (6/23) My Love: Uniondale Listen To What The Man Said: Kansas City Let 'Em In: L.A. (6/23) Time To Hide: New York (5/25) Silly Love Songs: New York (5/25) Beware My Love: Denver Letting Go: Kansas City Band On The Run: Denver Hi Hi Hi: Denver Soily: Denver Rockshow was filmed in three cities: New York, Seattle and Los Angeles
Fantastic, thanks for the info!
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DrivinFan:
Wings Over America (Venue Locations) V&M: Cincinnati Rock Show: Cincinnati Jet: Cincinnati Let Me Roll It: Cincinnati Spirits of Ancient Egypt: Seattle Medicine Jar: Cincinnati Maybe I'm Amazed: Kansas City Call Me Back Again: Cincinnati Lady Madonna: Detroit Long And Winding Road: Kansas City Live & Let Die: Boston Picasso's Last Words: Boston Richard Cory: L.A. (6/23) Bluebird: Cincinnati I've Just Seen A Face: L.A. (6/23) Blackbird: Boston Yesterday: venue unknown You Gave Me The Answer: L.A. (6/23) Magneto & Titanium Man: Boston Go Now: L.A. (6/23) My Love: Uniondale Listen To What The Man Said: Kansas City Let 'Em In: L.A. (6/23) Time To Hide: New York (5/25) Silly Love Songs: New York (5/25) Beware My Love: Denver Letting Go: Kansas City Band On The Run: Denver Hi Hi Hi: Denver Soily: Denver Rockshow was filmed in three cities: New York, Seattle and Los Angeles
So depending on exactly which performances were used in rockshow, there could be anywhere from no overlap, to 8 songs. Thanks.
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LetMeRollIt89:
Was just wondering about this myself. Thanks for sharing! I love some of the Rockshow versions better than WOA and the other way around as well. Kept coming back to Macca's neck during the film because one song he's got two necklaces, and the next song he's back to one. I enjoy both the RS and WOA versions a lot though. Always great to have some variety. Now I gotta check out this "Eight Arms To Hold You". Sounds fascinating!
I was thinking the same thing! I've been a Beatles fans for over a decade but owned no solo material until half a year ago, and now I've absorbed it all. The book would be the next logical step.
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I also saw a book on Amazon due out later this year called Man On the Run that details Paul during the 70s, it looks like it could be good! That being said, there's a book out already called Band on the Run about Wings and the 70s and it's lousy, don't waste your money or time on it.
