Set List critique
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moptops:
Buddy Rich, Fluke Holland and Irv Kottler. These are drummers. But....
I saw Buddy Rich play a small bar in Albuquerque, capacity 500. Ringo could do that just playing drums. And Grohl too, if he just played drums. No one goes out in the thousands to watch a drummer for two hours play obscure songs. Ringo has hit on a killer formula that allows him to tour as a drummer and a performing Beatle. Good for him! I am glad he and Paul are keeping the Beatles legacy alive!
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But does Ringo chew out the band on the tour-bus after each and every show like Buddy Rich did? If so, I'd love to hear THOSE tapes.
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oobu24:
yankeefan7:
SkLeigh:
yankeefan7:
First, the 1989 and 1993 tours did not have as many Beatle songs and I think that is what myself and others wish he would do again. The complaint is not so much songs don't change it is just his solo career of 35 years is barely represented if you eliminate the 3-4 songs off his most current release. Yes, Mr. McCartney does have many great songs. The shame is people will never hear most of them if they were created after 1980.
I just went through the setlists. (I have them in a spreadsheet. Yes, I am an accountant. ) I put the songs into categories. Some of them were a little tricky, but I just had to pick something. Beatles - I included the George and John tribute songs in this if they were Beatles songs, because even if they're not "Paul's songs", they're still Beatle songs. Wings Solo non-Beatles covers - This was the trickiest one. I included things in this like "Twenty Flight Rock". Even though it was on Choba b CCCP, I just have a hard time calling it a solo Paul song since it's really just a cover. I also included Give Peace a Chance in this since it's not the Beatles. I only had 7 out of 215 songs in this category, though. For anything in a medley I counted each as a separate song (Abbey Road and the John tributes). I didn't include things like Foxy Lady and something called "Robbie's Bit (Thanks Chet)." (I have no idea what that was! lol ) Here's how it came out: 1989 - 32 songs Beatles 56% Wings 9% Solo 28% non-Beatles covers 6% 1990 - 34 songs Beatles 62% Wings 12% Solo 21% non-Beatles covers 6% 1993 - 31 songs Beatles 52% Wings 16% Solo 26% non-Beatles covers 6% 2011 - 38 songs Beatles 66% Wings 21% Solo 11% non-Beatles covers 3% 2014 - 39 songs Beatles 64% Wings 15% Solo 21% non-Beatles covers 0% 2015 - 41 songs Beatles 63% Wings 15% Solo 22% non-Beatles covers 0% So he's added almost 10 songs from his 40s to his 70s! Beatles songs have always been over 50%, from 52% up to 66%. Wings have been from 9% to 21%. And solo has been from 11% up to 21%. (But when solo was at its low, Wings was at its high.) I think that's a pretty good distribution. I mean, there are a lot of solo (and Wings!) songs I'd like to hear, but it's hard to quibble with the Beatles. And for every song he plays where I'm like, that's not really my favorite, there are 15,000 people in the arena screaming and crying. Especially for the Beatles songs. And then I'm the one going crazy for Hi, Hi, Hi! (Thanks Paul!)
"I think that's a pretty good distribution. I mean, there are a lot of solo (and Wings!) songs I'd like to hear, but it's hard to quibble with the Beatles" Since you are an accountant, do me a favorite and redo the solo percentages. I would like to see what the solo percentage is if you eliminate the new songs he does from his most recent record/CD. It is a no brainer to try and promote your lastest recording by playing it live. I think it would be very telling how much is solo career is ignored once you take out the songs from record like "New" for example.
And also do 1976. That would be very telling.
I think it would be real simple. If my memory of the WOA tour is correct, he did 4-5 Beatle songs at most. I know he did "Yesterday" and "Ive Just Seen A Face" and remember Denny Lane did "Go Now" and "Richard Cory".
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Yes...he did just 5 Beatle tunes during the '76 WOA tour: Lady Madonna The Long and Winding Road I've Just Seen A Face Blackbird Yesterday
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DrivinFan:
Yes...he did just 5 Beatle tunes during the '76 WOA tour: Lady Madonna The Long and Winding Road I've Just Seen A Face Blackbird Yesterday
I bet back then you never thought you would still be hearing so many great Beatles/Solo songs being performed live nearly 40 years later!
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5th-beatle:
DrivinFan:
Yes...he did just 5 Beatle tunes during the '76 WOA tour: Lady Madonna The Long and Winding Road I've Just Seen A Face Blackbird Yesterday
I bet back then you never thought you would still be hearing so many great Beatles/Solo songs being performed live nearly 40 years later!
No, I never did. In fact it was more than 13 years later that I got to see Paul perform again...but got to hear a bunch of Beatle tunes!
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DrivinFan:
5th-beatle:
DrivinFan:
Yes...he did just 5 Beatle tunes during the '76 WOA tour: Lady Madonna The Long and Winding Road I've Just Seen A Face Blackbird Yesterday
I bet back then you never thought you would still be hearing so many great Beatles/Solo songs being performed live nearly 40 years later!
No, I never did. In fact it was more than 13 years later that I got to see Paul perform again...but got to hear a bunch of Beatle tunes!
A whole 13 years eh?
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moptops:
DrivinFan:
5th-beatle:
DrivinFan:
Yes...he did just 5 Beatle tunes during the '76 WOA tour: Lady Madonna The Long and Winding Road I've Just Seen A Face Blackbird Yesterday
I bet back then you never thought you would still be hearing so many great Beatles/Solo songs being performed live nearly 40 years later!
No, I never did. In fact it was more than 13 years later that I got to see Paul perform again...but got to hear a bunch of Beatle tunes!
A whole 13 years eh?
I can't even fathom Paul taking 13 years off the road. I guess 1977-1988 was the golden age of the tribute band!
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moptops:
DrivinFan:
5th-beatle:
DrivinFan:
Yes...he did just 5 Beatle tunes during the '76 WOA tour: Lady Madonna The Long and Winding Road I've Just Seen A Face Blackbird Yesterday
I bet back then you never thought you would still be hearing so many great Beatles/Solo songs being performed live nearly 40 years later!
No, I never did. In fact it was more than 13 years later that I got to see Paul perform again...but got to hear a bunch of Beatle tunes!
A whole 13 years eh?
I meant to say..."a mere 13 years"...
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WixRocks!:
moptops:
DrivinFan:
5th-beatle:
DrivinFan:
Yes...he did just 5 Beatle tunes during the '76 WOA tour: Lady Madonna The Long and Winding Road I've Just Seen A Face Blackbird Yesterday
I bet back then you never thought you would still be hearing so many great Beatles/Solo songs being performed live nearly 40 years later!
No, I never did. In fact it was more than 13 years later that I got to see Paul perform again...but got to hear a bunch of Beatle tunes!
A whole 13 years eh?
I can't even fathom Paul taking 13 years off the road. I guess 1977-1988 was the golden age of the tribute band!
"I can't even fathom Paul taking 13 years off the road." I think the breakup of Wings and Mr. Lennon being murdered (security concerns) were the cause of such a long period without touring.
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WixRocks!:
moptops:
DrivinFan:
5th-beatle:
DrivinFan:
Yes...he did just 5 Beatle tunes during the '76 WOA tour: Lady Madonna The Long and Winding Road I've Just Seen A Face Blackbird Yesterday
I bet back then you never thought you would still be hearing so many great Beatles/Solo songs being performed live nearly 40 years later!
No, I never did. In fact it was more than 13 years later that I got to see Paul perform again...but got to hear a bunch of Beatle tunes!
A whole 13 years eh?
I can't even fathom Paul taking 13 years off the road. I guess 1977-1988 was the golden age of the tribute band!
"I can't even fathom Paul taking 13 years off the road." Actually, it was less, thought Wings did short tour in 1979.
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WixRocks!:
moptops:
DrivinFan:
5th-beatle:
DrivinFan:
Yes...he did just 5 Beatle tunes during the '76 WOA tour: Lady Madonna The Long and Winding Road I've Just Seen A Face Blackbird Yesterday
I bet back then you never thought you would still be hearing so many great Beatles/Solo songs being performed live nearly 40 years later!
No, I never did. In fact it was more than 13 years later that I got to see Paul perform again...but got to hear a bunch of Beatle tunes!
A whole 13 years eh?
I can't even fathom Paul taking 13 years off the road. I guess 1977-1988 was the golden age of the tribute band!
Don't forget Wings 1979 UK tour, so it was nearly 10 years that Paul didn't tour not 13 years! There was a 9-year gap between 1993 and 2002 too! It's a shame Paul didn't tour Tug Of War in 1982/ '83, it would have been great to hear him sing that material when he still had most of his vocal ability intact?
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DrivinFan:
In fact it was more than 13 years later that I got to see Paul perform again...but got to hear a bunch of Beatle tunes!
And there will be more next year! There are not many left originally sung by him, so I wonder what he will come up with.
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He'll probably milk more John Lennon songs... :
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yankeefan7:
WixRocks!:
moptops:
DrivinFan:
5th-beatle:
DrivinFan:
Yes...he did just 5 Beatle tunes during the '76 WOA tour: Lady Madonna The Long and Winding Road I've Just Seen A Face Blackbird Yesterday
I bet back then you never thought you would still be hearing so many great Beatles/Solo songs being performed live nearly 40 years later!
No, I never did. In fact it was more than 13 years later that I got to see Paul perform again...but got to hear a bunch of Beatle tunes!
A whole 13 years eh?
I can't even fathom Paul taking 13 years off the road. I guess 1977-1988 was the golden age of the tribute band!
"I can't even fathom Paul taking 13 years off the road." I think the breakup of Wings and Mr. Lennon being murdered (security concerns) were the cause of such a long period without touring.
John's murder and the specific threats made Paul's way (which I won't go into here) put paid to any touring in the 80's. Of course later in the 90's, Linda's illness...
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moptops:
He'll probably milk more John Lennon songs... :
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I've been thinking on a realistic setlist for a 2016 tour and this is what I come up with, mixing songs from previous tours, rehearsed and some new. 1- Drive My Car 2- Save Us 3- PS I Love You 4- With a little luck 5- Let Me Roll It 6-Paperback Writer 7- Martha My Dear 8- Let 'Em In 9- The Long and Winding Road 10- My Love 11- Here, There & Everywhere 12- Things We Said Today 13- FourFiveSeconds 14- Till there was you 15- Every Night 16- Hope for the Future 17- I Will 18- Blackbird 19- Here Today 20- New 21- Your mother should know 22-Lady Madonna 23- For no one 24- The fool on the hill 25- When I'm 64 26- Eleanor Rigby 27- Something 28- Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da 29- Band on the Run 30- Back in the U.S.S.R. 31- Let It Be 32- Live and Let Die 33- Hey Jude Encore 1: 34- The Night Before 35- Beware My Love 36- I Saw Her Standing There //// Get Back Encore 2: 37- Yesterday 38- Birthday 39- Golden Slumbers / Carry that weight / The End Again, not what I'd like him to play, but what I think might be possible.
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FC15:
I've been thinking on a realistic setlist for a 2016 tour and this is what I come up with, mixing songs from previous tours, rehearsed and some new. 1- Drive My Car 2- Save Us 3- PS I Love You 4- With a little luck 5- Let Me Roll It 6-Paperback Writer 7- Martha My Dear 8- Let 'Em In 9- The Long and Winding Road 10- My Love 11- Here, There & Everywhere 12- Things We Said Today 13- FourFiveSeconds 14- Till there was you 15- Every Night 16- Hope for the Future 17- I Will 18- Blackbird 19- Here Today 20- New 21- Your mother should know 22-Lady Madonna 23- For no one 24- The fool on the hill 25- When I'm 64 26- Eleanor Rigby 27- Something 28- Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da 29- Band on the Run 30- Back in the U.S.S.R. 31- Let It Be 32- Live and Let Die 33- Hey Jude Encore 1: 34- The Night Before 35- Beware My Love 36- I Saw Her Standing There //// Get Back Encore 2: 37- Yesterday 38- Birthday 39- Golden Slumbers / Carry that weight / The End Again, not what I'd like him to play, but what I think might be possible.
I'd definitely nix the first 3 songs...and regards the rest; far too many recycled numbers and war horses still in that list. Still, you might be close to spot on!
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Well, he's running out of non-played Beatles songs.. and unfortunately that doesn't mean he'll do more solo songs So I guess he'll recycle some from 93-02-05 tours, or play more John's songs.
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FC15:
Well, he's running out of non-played Beatles songs.. and unfortunately that doesn't mean he'll do more solo songs So I guess he'll recycle some from 93-02-05 tours, or play more John's songs.
I fear you are correct. And I expect it.