Lone Raven:
I always wonder about the source when I see comments directed towards vegans like "look up Temple Grandin" (as if we don't know how she "changed" the industry to pull more wool over consumers' eyes with the Humane Myth - animals are treated worse than ever, and all of the "improvements" have only made the killing faster and more agonizing for animals); or vegans offering information are called all kinds of names like "obnoxious" and "aggressive" when it's only a projection of personal shame somewhere in that cognizant dissonance that animal consumers live with.
I think they feel attacked, because they get nervous and feel guilty ... but sometimes, we have to lower our heads and accept that we make a mistake ...
Lone Raven:
We all know it hurts to hear the truth about our complicity. We went through it ourselves, and had to throw off the inane objections like "I respect your choice to be vegan, please respect mine to eat meat," because those "arguments" truly make NO SENSE. Vegans have committed to a life of respecting all beings, their habitats, and in turn actually help humanity by gnawing at the root of our inherent violent tendencies, and are fully aware that those "choices" animal consumers make are not without victims, so the argument actually sounds pretty dumb to us.
in this case killing innocents is a big mistake ... And so I ask yo all people who kill animals to accept that it is a mistake support this slaughter ... I was also a animal killer ... Is never too late to become aware and make the change
Lone Raven:
There's a holocaust going on. It's sad that it offends people to hear about it. But they should be offended at the industry, the very idea that animals are ours to torture, than at the messengers. Seriously, respect is earned, not given, for harmful behavior. We are lovers of life, and respectful of the world. Humans have had free rein to torture and destroy - respecting their actions is not earned or warranted. Our anger at hearing the same useless, uninformed arguments are for good reason. Any sensible person would not only balk at the treatment of animals, but also refuse to partake in the bloodshed. To protect your "choice" is to deny that you have any responsibility towards compassion. It really is the definition of selfish, if you look at it with your eyes wide open.
we are all responsible, only we can change this nightmare.... your comment is totally righ Lone Posted: 01-20-2013 03:44 PM Post subject: follow this i was following this... and.. madness from meat eaters.. madness madness.. how somebody who kill animals ask for respect??? i just want to say: Do not ever ask to respect your "personal choice" when you're eating dead animals whose lives were not respected .... Do not ever tell me that vegans are not tolerant, since you are the intolerant with animals. Never tell me that we think we are better than you, because is you who think are better just because you are a human. Do not call us radical or extremist because justice dont have extreme. Do not ever tell me that we part of a cult, because you are part of an industry that knows no ethical or moral, and you are coward because you are there very confortable and you dont question what you doing. Do not ever tell me that there is no alternative, tha this is the life, and always has been, because you know vegans, you see what we eat and see we are alive. You, you're not as ignorant as you pretend, because you really know part of the truth , because we have opened your eyes. But you wanted to close them again ... And certainly do not tell us that this is unnatural and goes against evolution, precisely because you base your position on custom and tradition. ______________________________________ www.cocinandoconjagannatha.blogspot.com/ www.refugioparamatma.blogspot.com/