I have 2 extra tix for Friday Night Section 425 Row 12 $75 each I have 2 extra tix for Saturday Night Section 322 Row 1 $64 each I live on Long Island can meet during week or can meet at stadium before show as I am going to both shows (and sitting in those same sections each night cuz I bought 4 tickets each night)
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RE: Paul at Yankee Stadium July 15, 2011!!!! - ARCHIVE
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RE: The ..2012.... Political thread
[quote="EADG"]Tallyho -- I can't tell whether people like that don't understand their own hypocricy or if they figure that if they're completly shameless and aggressive enough, they'll wear down their opponents. Either way, they are destined to fail in the grander scheme of things. It's selective outrage. typical of the hypocrite. They never look at the big picture they only look at how the picture fits into their own little world. They then use their own personal beliefs and feelings to decide what is right or wrong but they don't have the guts to say that is what they are doing. So they hide behind morally superior terms (in their eyes) like "free speech" or "decency" or "kindness" to defend their opinion. But then moments later when they see something they disagree with then that person is not extended the same "decency" or right to an opinion. Its OK to attack and name call. As in my Whitehouse example. Had Paul or any other artist being honored chose that venue to insult President Obama I would have been just as offended and upset. And I am sure in that case Beatlechick would be behind me 100% But in her little world it is acceptable behavior because she dislikes the target of the insult. Just like when I was the target .....here on the forum for expressing my opinion....It was OK in her hypocritical eyes because I dared have an opinion contrary to hers. But then when I chose to defend myself then she saw fit to tell me to get off the board. She knows perfectly well that is exactly what happened and I am absolutely right....but remember a hypocrite can never admit they are wrong So its deny deny deny....play victim....or team up with other hypocrites on the forum to attack. So it's not a matter of them "not getting it" They do get it. But its alot easier for them to pretend they dont.
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[quote="beatlechick"][quote="jaipur"][quote="SurSteven"][quote="jaipur"][quote="SurSteven"][quote="jaipur"]The indians are restless on this reservation D The nonsense of deficits....there are "two" kinds, boys and girls...structural (that has existed for umpty dump years....known as social security, medicare) to which grandchildren and great grandchildren will pay) and budget deficits (unemployment). As long as Congress keeps jerking around regarding the Bush tax cuts, businesses CANNOT hire. Because when those cuts expire, companies will need the cash they are currently stashing to pay them This is not about democrats or republican philosophy....it's about where all of us (meaning myself, the wife and others I know) are....it is a little of both......us folks in the center wink So, if liberal philosophy is the leftwing philosophy...and republicanism is right hand philosophy...and democracy is the middle and mediating point of view that it always has been..........how does... halfway between the near right and the far right..........become the center? shock lol ...it's no wonder that working people are sadly laughing at you.... Working people didn't laugh at Bill Clinton or Tony Blair....both of whom governed from the center. It's no wonder people actually laugh at you instead as that simple fact never occurred to you. ) It is us folks in the center that swing elections. Not the extremes on either end. So, "you are" a Democrat! D No I am not a democrat or a republican. One more time and do try and read for comprehension Clinton and Blair governed from the center (neither democrat or republican, nor labor or conservative). ps...please take it easy on the indians...they gave a lot more to this country than you did! shock idea ? Yes, where would we be without casinos?? D How ignorant. When was the last time you talked to Native Americans and called them indians? When was the last time you read about their various rich history and culture? They don't lose sight of who they are, where they came from like Americans have. There's good old Beatlechick again, showing her hypocrisy. Paul insults a former President at the Whitehouse with a rude and unfunny remark...its "free speech" and acceptable to her (not because she believes in free speech but because she can use the "free speech" card to defend an insult against a politician she despises) I write a non insulting, non offensive post simply stating my personal feelings about Pauls remark and I am subjected to all sorts of name calling "red neck", "racist" etc.. and told to get off the message board. Where was Beatlechick with her defense of my free speech rights? Where was Beatlechick to tell the name callers that they were "ignorant"? Answer.........NOWHERE.......Until I tried to defend myself from the attacks (without resorting to the same name calling) But somehow free speech did not apply to me....why??? Because I dared to express my opinion that it was not right for Paul to insult ANY.....repeat..... ANY President (but she looked at that as some sort of defense of Bush, rather than class and graciousness which was ALWAYS my point) So when I defended myself Beatlechick finally spoke up....against me....and in support of the name callers. Now she rides back into the boards on her high horse morally condemning another forum members remarks against native americans. Somehow I don't think Beatlechick would have been so upset if Jaipur was "ignorantly" bashing President Bush (or myself for that matter) But such is the life of a self righteous hypocrite. Carry on.
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[quote="bobjaybird22"]I am done with this thread. People (including Paul) are not going to change their minds. It is over a month old and dead news to most people. Now that we have read he won't apologize that should be it. I'm going back to the music where politics is seldom mentioned. I'm going to do that instead of trying to be "holier than now" and critisize all points of view. Whether or not someone comes to my "defense" or supports my points of view is meaningless, it will n0t take care of my family or pay my college tuition. This is just a message board. Adios, hopefully you all do the same. I'm off to listen to some Wings... I was never expecting anyone to come to my defense, or support my point of view. I was just expecting my opinion and point of view to be respected by others (especially since I merely stated it without disrespecting or insulting anyone else) I just found it amusing when post after post after post of insults hurled my way are either agreed with or ignored that only after I defended myself did posters feel it was time for them to comment........and comment against me defending myself, rather than speaking out after I was called "red neck" and "racist" and "not a real Paul fan" (among other names) As far as "going back to the music" I myself never left it. I have been listening to my Paul collection these past weeks as I always do. I have been counting the days to his concert. And when I do not want to be subjected to political debate on the Paul message board I imagine I will stay away from the "2010 political thread" listed under the "non Paul talk" category.............fairly simple
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[quote="EADG"]In case anyone missed it (i just noticed it today), Paul did reply to the controversy regarding his remarks. Sir Paul Says He Won't Apologize For Bush Joke 6/30/2010 229 PM ET Paul McCartney says he will not apologize for a joke he made about George W. Bush while accepting an award at the White House on June 2. After receiving the Library of Congress' Gershwin Award for Popular Song, the former Beatle commented that it's nice to have a president "who knows what a library is." The comment ruffled some feathers among Republican Party leaders, including house minority leader John Boehner, who publicly spoke out against the comment. In a recent interview with the U.K.'s Daily Express, however, McCartney says he has no plans to apologize for the comment, as it was only a joke. "I said that on purpose. And now all this [criticism], like I'm going to care? It was a joke. Hello, anybody there? It's a joke," he says of the remark. "Has anyone ever watched Saturday Night Live? They joke about Bush all the time. As for a public apology, are they kidding? I was in two minds whether to say it and I actually waited until the President had gone because I didn't want to embarrass him or his family. But hey, come on, it's rock and roll. It wasn't a religious meeting and I'm allowed to make jokes." -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Copyright 2010 RTTNews.com, Inc. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed without prior written consent of RTTNews. Yes, thats why I said earlier that Paul knew his joke was not appropriate because he intentionally waited for President Obama to leave the room before saying it. If (in Pauls view) it was just an innocent joke he would not have cared who was in the room and who was not before saying it. But Paul does use the same lame SNL analogy. As if jokes made during a comedy show somehow equate to jokes made at a White House event. I guess if I turn on SNL and see them holding a 90 minute press conference on the economy instead of doing comedy we can all say thats OK because the White House holds press conferences all the time.
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[quote="bobjaybird22"][quote="Tallyho"] WRONG..... Paul most certainly WAS being honored by the American People. When ANYONE is accepting an honor at the Whitehouse (The Nations Capitol) they are not solely being honored by the elected official residing there...it is an honor bestowed on them on behalf of the country. (the same country that put that President in the White House....otherwise honor them somewhere else....NOT at the White House) And for the 212th time it is NOT the same NOT NOT NOT the same as radio hosts or politicians making cracks about each other. For God's sake please stop pretending the offended people are trying to censor anyone. Its the TIME AND PLACE of the insult. Do you understand that yet???? I've said dozens of times on this board that Paul could have insulted Bush just about anywhere else (But yet everytime you reply you forget that) Paul himself in his non-apology stated he intentionally waited for Obama to leave the room before making the tasteless crack. So obviously Paul knew it was in bad taste and out of line. I just wish he would have shown the rest of America the same courtesy as he did President Obama and just accepted the award with class and dignity. Over the years I have seen quite a few artists accepting awards from the President......many of them had been very outspoken and some rude towards the current leadership at the time........but when it came time for the award ceremony they (correctly) stated that it was not a time and place for politics or criticizing the President, the event was about something else (music or art or whatever else) It's should not even be a debated issue. Paul was wrong....plain and simple. He even knew he was wrong as evidenced by his admission of not saying it until President Obama and his family had left the room. And I am sure had President Obama known Paul was going to make the bad joke, he would have politely asked him to refrain. The night was supposed to be about Paul McCartney and his music, unfortunately Paul decided to take the celebration down into the gutter with rude and disrespectful behavior. It's a shame thats all that will be remembered from that night. And Paul also managed to turn his own fans against each other (as we have seen on this board) Was it all worth it? For a joke that even in the proper venue wasn't funny anyway. (although I am sure the Paul defenders and Bush haters will all argue and say how side splittingly funny the joke was.....even though the fact that Bush's wife was a librarian makes the joke a pretty poor one....pehaps Paul should have asked Seinfeld for help) I agree that it wasn't the right thing to say, I wouldn't have, but all this backlash is a bit ridiculous. Paul fans wouldn't "turn" against each other over this issue if people would stop holding high-school grudges and just enjoy his music. That's what this site is about, afterall. I don't like the comment but I disagee with people everyday and that doesn't keep me from liking them as a person or friend and if you think that way, that speaks more about your lack of character than your political views and that's an issue that goes far beyond any comment someone makes. And I disagree, the fact that Mrs. Bush is a former librarian does make the comment more funny...if you can take a joke... lol This from a guy who voted for Bush twice btw...if that means anything. I had no high school grudge or stopped liking anyone. I simply came on the board (which I have been a member since 2002) and stated that I was offended by Paul's behavior at what should have been a celebration of his music. I NEVER said I was no longer a Paul fan (in fact it was because he has always been above this kind of juvenile behavior that made me admire and respect him even more on top of his musical genius) But apparently the high school grudges came against me for stating my opinion and feelings because I was called all sorts of nasty names by fellow Paul fans. I had other fans totally misinterpret or even straight out misquote me then in the same post attack me for saying things that I NEVER SAID. While all this went on, not a single fan came to my defense. Not a single fan said "lets not attack him for telling us how he feels" Not a single fan said "Tallyho never said what you claim he said" Not a single fan said "lets extend this poster the same free speech we keep claiming Paul has" But when I choose to defend myself the same posters keep telling me to "move on" or "go away" or that "nobody gives a $@#$" So if stating my opinion then defending myself against name calling and lies about me says something about "my character" that you do not like, then I would say we have alot more to disagree over than Paul's tasteless joke. And yes...the joke is still a bad one. Like I said before, if I wanted to make a joke about Paul's lack of intelligence and I chose "photographer" as the profession that Paul "has never heard of" it would not only make no sense but it would be one really terrible (and unfunny) jokes. And who I or anyone else has voted for or against makes no difference as to whether a joke is funny or appropriate.
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[quote="beatlechick"][quote="bobjaybird22"]As a person who wouldn't have said what Paul said, here is why he shouldn't apologize for his comment 1. It was just a joke, tasteless, sure but Seinfeld was there too cracking jokes at peoples expense. 2. While some people who want him to apologize are regular folks wanting him to do "the right thing", some people just want to cause trouble and apologizing to them would just appease them. Besides, would apologizing make it any less of a right thing to of said? No. People who didn't like it will still critisize him for it anyways so what's the point of pouring gas onto fire when you could just let it fly by and let people move on to the next thing. 3. Apologizing won't make Bush an any better/worse President, Paul a better person or Obama a better leader. It would just stir up the hive. In other words, it's a waste of time. I know that sounds cynical and boring but it's true. Again, while some may want him to geniually apologize for an insult, there are far more who just want to cause trouble on the right by making this a bigger deal than it is. Case closed. Well said! And for Tally, "On behalf of the American people?" He wasn't accepting anything in our behalf. When I ask what are you afraid of, I'm asking because so many people are taking an offense of a comment that was made so they must be afraid of something happening because of it. Did that comment change your life in any way shape or form? Did we go to, yet another, war because of his comment? Did the sky turn purple when he made that comment? Was the US or Great Britain attacked by some outside force because of his comment? No, nothing happened----nothing at all. So he made a comment, so what? I'm sure you never ever made such a type of comments in your life. I know I have. Sure I don't wield the same power as Paul does but just like I, he has the same rights to make any comment he damn well pleases whether or not we like it. If you don't like it voice your opinion and move on to the next subject. Life is to short to dwell on this. The only people make an ass of themselves right now is BP and the US Coast Guard. Now no one is allowed within 65' of the oil clean up yet the reporters at BP say that the cleanup is like a ballet in motion and one that should be seen as a thing of beauty. To bad, we're not allowed to see this. WRONG..... Paul most certainly WAS being honored by the American People. When ANYONE is accepting an honor at the Whitehouse (The Nations Capitol) they are not solely being honored by the elected official residing there...it is an honor bestowed on them on behalf of the country. (the same country that put that President in the White House....otherwise honor them somewhere else....NOT at the White House) And for the 212th time it is NOT the same NOT NOT NOT the same as radio hosts or politicians making cracks about each other. For God's sake please stop pretending the offended people are trying to censor anyone. Its the TIME AND PLACE of the insult. Do you understand that yet???? I've said dozens of times on this board that Paul could have insulted Bush just about anywhere else (But yet everytime you reply you forget that) Paul himself in his non-apology stated he intentionally waited for Obama to leave the room before making the tasteless crack. So obviously Paul knew it was in bad taste and out of line. I just wish he would have shown the rest of America the same courtesy as he did President Obama and just accepted the award with class and dignity. Over the years I have seen quite a few artists accepting awards from the President......many of them had been very outspoken and some rude towards the current leadership at the time........but when it came time for the award ceremony they (correctly) stated that it was not a time and place for politics or criticizing the President, the event was about something else (music or art or whatever else) It's should not even be a debated issue. Paul was wrong....plain and simple. He even knew he was wrong as evidenced by his admission of not saying it until President Obama and his family had left the room. And I am sure had President Obama known Paul was going to make the bad joke, he would have politely asked him to refrain. The night was supposed to be about Paul McCartney and his music, unfortunately Paul decided to take the celebration down into the gutter with rude and disrespectful behavior. It's a shame thats all that will be remembered from that night. And Paul also managed to turn his own fans against each other (as we have seen on this board) Was it all worth it? For a joke that even in the proper venue wasn't funny anyway. (although I am sure the Paul defenders and Bush haters will all argue and say how side splittingly funny the joke was.....even though the fact that Bush's wife was a librarian makes the joke a pretty poor one....pehaps Paul should have asked Seinfeld for help)
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[quote="beatlechick"][quote="milcon1998"]yawn Another comment nobody gives a s**t about. Don't buy his records, sell your tickets for the show and leave the forum. And kudos to Paul for not wanting to apologize!!! You rock dude!!! I wouldn't go so far as to say leave the forum but I will ask, again, if you want to give up any of your memoribilia, can I have it? Another question to ask those of you who insist on bringing this old joke up, what the hell are you so afraid of? He made a comment. SO WHAT?!? No need to apologize and glad he didn't do it. ONCE AGAIN Beatlechick we are NOT repeat NOT (repeat one more time since you keep missing it NOT) afraid of anything. It's not difficult to comprehend Paul was at the Whitehouse being honored on behalf on ALL Americans (not democrats, not republicans, not any one single political group) be gracious, be respectful to EVERYONE. If you want to praise President Obama as the greatest President ever, the greatest human being ever......go right ahead. But why go negative? Why insult ANYONE???? There will be millions of opportunities to make all the Bush jokes/insults you want at another time and place. Paul was given this honor and given this stage because of his MUSIC he was not given the stage of the Presidents residence to insult a former President (and I would hope any future recipient of the award under a future President does NOT use the honor as a stage to insult President Obama) Its cheap and classless. And to top it off the joke isnt even funny because Paul failed to do his homework and learn that Bush's wife was a librarian. If I want to insult Paul's intelligence it would not make too much sense to say "Paul doesn't even know what a photographer is" (when Pauls wife was a photographer) Just as if Paul had showed up to receive this honor wearing sweat pants and a t-shirt, I would say it showed no class to disrespect the White House that way. That would NOT MEAN (by using the nitwit logic used by some on this board) that sweats and t-shirt can never be worn by anyone ever It would not mean people who are offended are "afraid" of sweat pants. It's about being respectful and gracious. But the shocking thing about this forum is the lack of respect or understanding for any dissenting opinion. Not one poster has even said to someone "I understand how you could feel that way....I disagree....but I respect your opinion" Instead its been insults and name calling and orders to go away. At least I can honestly say I would have been just as offended if Paul had made a joke at President Obama or Clintons expense but the truth is the hypocrites who are defending the insult cannot see anything past there hatred for Bush (which should not even be a part of the equation) in closing (in case Beatlechick forgets for the seventh time) WE ARE NOT AFRAID OF ANYTHING PAUL SAID We just think that when receiving an award on behalf of the American people don't insult ANY OF THEM.
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[quote="femaleanimal"][quote="Tallyho"][quote="femaleanimal"]Good grief. Yes "good grief" indeed. I came on the board (that I have been a member of since 2002) I merely stated it was rude and classless to insult ANY (repeat) ANY President (past or present) while being honored at the White House. I did not call ANYONE names or recite ANY political philosophy. I did not say Bush (or any other President) was above being joked about or criticized or even insulted. Yet I was then attacked by fellow members Calling me a "right-wing nut" Calling me a "red neck" Calling me a "racist" Telling me what my political beliefs are (when I never stated them) Accusing me of just becoming a member because I was "ordered" too by some radio host or news station (even though my 2002 membership is clearly displayed) NOT ONE poster came to my defense. NOT ONE poster asked the insulters to "move on" NOT ONE poster said "good grief" Yet when I dare defend myself these same hypocrites suddenly feel I am taking it too far. But in their eyes, seeing my point would mean they have to take their political blinders off. These are the same idiots that applauded when a shoe was thrown at the President. While I would take offense at a shoe being thrown at Obama or Clinton or George Washington for that matter these hypocrites choose to view the political philosophies of the target instead of realizing its an insult to an entire office and nation. (once more folks....time to play the re-interpret my post game and tell the board what I really mean) Yawn. What a well thought out and intelligent response. but I guess "yawn" and "good grief" are alot easier than having to figure out what I said that wasn't true.
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[quote="femaleanimal"]Good grief. Yes "good grief" indeed. I came on the board (that I have been a member of since 2002) I merely stated it was rude and classless to insult ANY (repeat) ANY President (past or present) while being honored at the White House. I did not call ANYONE names or recite ANY political philosophy. I did not say Bush (or any other President) was above being joked about or criticized or even insulted. Yet I was then attacked by fellow members Calling me a "right-wing nut" Calling me a "red neck" Calling me a "racist" Telling me what my political beliefs are (when I never stated them) Accusing me of just becoming a member because I was "ordered" too by some radio host or news station (even though my 2002 membership is clearly displayed) NOT ONE poster came to my defense. NOT ONE poster asked the insulters to "move on" NOT ONE poster said "good grief" Yet when I dare defend myself these same hypocrites suddenly feel I am taking it too far. But in their eyes, seeing my point would mean they have to take their political blinders off. These are the same idiots that applauded when a shoe was thrown at the President. While I would take offense at a shoe being thrown at Obama or Clinton or George Washington for that matter these hypocrites choose to view the political philosophies of the target instead of realizing its an insult to an entire office and nation. (once more folks....time to play the re-interpret my post game and tell the board what I really mean)