The ..2012.... Political thread
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First, who said I was at work?? Anyway...that list is half 'non factual' (shoe bomber??? what harm did he do and what country did he board the plane???) and half facts that have nothing to do with the presidential office (9/11 - if Bill Clinton had done his job right, Bin Laden would've been gone several years earlier...Katrina??? an idiot Democratic Mayor who when called on the carpet, handed the blame bag onto Bush...what was his deal in leaving thousands of buses parked while many people were helpless to leave NO on their own???...then he Blames Bush - he should go smoke some crack)... -Bin Laden??? I would agree with you except that since Obama wants to shake his hand and congratulate him, I get the feeling Dems would not handle things so well. -Iraq is a mess, but he did break Saddam's neck (both figuratively and literally)...Problem with Bush is that he tried to appease the Dems by not turning that country into a new parking lot...He opted for the 'messy' version...People were influenced by pictures from that war and starting thinking with their heart instead of their head - I certainly don't like to see a picture of a mother and a crying baby; but I don't let that cloud my thoughts of what can happen 5 minutes down the road. And there a host of other issues that come up which you don't know how is responsible...
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So you don't like my list of accomplishments then...What are the great Republican accomplishments in the modern age?
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mustangsally10:
So you don't like my list of accomplishments then...What are the great Republican accomplishments in the modern age?
We'll make it easy on you - think of all the gov't associated accomplishments in US history that you can and eliminate any thoughts that it could've been done by a Democrat - and you'll have your answer (and no, dumb crap like Obama-care or Clinton showing us how adultery is cool doesn't count...real accomplishments ) In fact, seriously - are Democrats responsible for any positive achievements? I mean aside from the Iranian crisis, 500 ka-trillion dollars in bailouts, letting buses set in a parking lot while a hurricane is taking aim on your city, then blaming everyone else when the worst case scenario happens, the worst unemployment in at least a half century (actually going back to the two world wars and the great depression that's sandwiched between the two)...funny stuff you got going on there
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rich n:
mustangsally10:
So you don't like my list of accomplishments then...What are the great Republican accomplishments in the modern age?
We'll make it easy on you - think of all the gov't associated accomplishments in US history that you can and eliminate any thoughts that it could've been done by a Democrat - and you'll have your answer (and no, dumb crap like Obama-care or Clinton showing us how adultery is cool doesn't count...real accomplishments ) In fact, seriously - are Democrats responsible for any positive achievements? I mean aside from the Iranian crisis, 500 ka-trillion dollars in bailouts, letting buses set in a parking lot while a hurricane is taking aim on your city, then blaming everyone else when the worst case scenario happens, the worst unemployment in at least a half century (actually going back to the two world wars and the great depression that's sandwiched between the two)...funny stuff you got going on there
I wish you would respond in English, please
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Rich, you can do better than that. Give us a substantive answer, please.
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Obama's Cairo speech here:
There is no doubt that the Egyptian's heard what Obama said about supporting the people's wishes for democracy. That is the message he wanted to convey...that is why he went to Cairo. This revolution was not a surprise to the White House....what a blow to al Qaeda. That's the way to do it Obama & Clinton awesome -
Let the distortions begin. Where are you, Glenn Beck? Rush? Money-w(ho)re Sarah Palin?
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mustangsally10:
rich n:
mustangsally10:
Yoo Hoo! Egypt is Free Folks, this is what is looks like to have a grownup in the White House Bringing democracy to the middle east without invading and killing off the population Another great democratic achievement! along with Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, etc, etc, etc, Why aren't the repubs bragging about their so called achievements Live stream from Cairo here: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/41528247#41528247 Bravo Egypt!
ROFL - that's what you think (ugliness in the middle east is just around the corner - especially when the countries surrounding Israel - including Egypt - try to squeeze Israel out of existance) ...and why don't 'we Republicans' brag about our accomplishments???? Because you can't read (why waste my time typing it out??)...I'll try some audio/video approaches when I get home later - including one of Gore himself admitting that his global warming facts were fabricated (LOL) And as far as a 'grown up' in office - is that why he was complaining to Bill O'Reilly last Sunday that he didn't realize he had to fix 'big' problems? And his input so far with this Egyptian thing has been a disgrace at best...and he seems to think the Muslim Brotherhood group is a 'good' thing for Egypt
Haha so that the repubs don't have to tire their fingers typing their accomplishments...not the mention upset their employers by wasting their work time on the internet I'll help you out * The Republican Party kept us safe, except for 9/11 (well, and Anthrax, the shoe bomber, etc.) * The Bush administration captured and brought to justice the top terrorists who threatened America, except for Osama bin Laden * No US cities were destroyed under the last Republican presidency, other than New Orleans * Bush has a perfect record on military invasions of other countries, except for Afghanistan and Iraq * Republicans protected our constitution, except for habeus corpus and the bill of rights And now we have a former US president who can not even travel to the EU in fear of arrest (bush of course) please feel free to add their other accomplishments
Bill Maher couldn't have done better, Sally! Love it!
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audi:
Rich, you can do better than that. Give us a substantive answer, please.
Who's 'us'??? And where would you want me to start - right with our first republican president and the abolishment of slavery, initiated the groundwork that would become NASA and space exploration? I mean there's a million and one things...you guys start doing your own research - you look bad not knowing the basics
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mustangsally10:
rich n:
mustangsally10:
So you don't like my list of accomplishments then...What are the great Republican accomplishments in the modern age?
We'll make it easy on you - think of all the gov't associated accomplishments in US history that you can and eliminate any thoughts that it could've been done by a Democrat - and you'll have your answer (and no, dumb crap like Obama-care or Clinton showing us how adultery is cool doesn't count...real accomplishments ) In fact, seriously - are Democrats responsible for any positive achievements? I mean aside from the Iranian crisis, 500 ka-trillion dollars in bailouts, letting buses set in a parking lot while a hurricane is taking aim on your city, then blaming everyone else when the worst case scenario happens, the worst unemployment in at least a half century (actually going back to the two world wars and the great depression that's sandwiched between the two)...funny stuff you got going on there
I wish you would respond in English, please
Ah...I forgot, I was going to hook you up with audio/video since you can't read...I'll get right on that as I found a few good videos of greenpeace leaders and Al Gore himself verbally stating (that means 'speaking' with actual sound for those who don't understand) that Global Warming is a fraud - LOL...used for political and financial gain. Here's a little snippet from a related article ( dated March 13, 2009 LOL ) Yesterday, in a stunning reversal, Al Gore broke down in tears in front of a throng of reporters at Chicago?s World Green Day conference, admitting publicly for the first time that the theory of Global Warming, which the former Vice-President has touted for the better part of three decades, has been nothing more than ?hot air?. ?The fear that I?ve been perpetuating a hoax has been growing inside me for some time. I finally had no alternative but to admit that my confidence in the global warming theory was melting away faster than the ice caps supposedly were. The mountain of evidence and hard scientific data has overwhelmingly persuaded me to reverse my previous position on Global Warming.? Gore went on to plead his case by presenting another powerpoint slideshow depicting what he described as ?irrefutable evidence.? Some highlights: The Polar bears aren?t drowning. (the pictures of them clinging to icebergs for their lives, are actually the bears frolicking, as they have done for centuries)
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Start with your hero - king moron...
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Here's a 'beam me up, scotty' dude that you're probably familiar with admitting that their own campaign is falsified and built to play on your emotions:
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You guys are in worse shape than I thought...and really I thought it was pretty bad So what are the great accomplishments of the republican party in modern times? It makes no sense to support them if they do nothing
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mustangsally10:
You guys are in worse shape than I thought...and really I thought it was pretty bad So what are the great accomplishments of the republican party in modern times? It makes no sense to support them if they do nothing
So in other words - you're illiterate (can't read) AND suffer from global aphasia...at least I understand you now Why do you try to talk politics when it's apparent you haven't got a clue?
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richn ...this is for you
you are an honorary ditto head And What are the great accomplishments of the republican party in modern times? I'm having fun watching you guys try to get out of this -
mustangsally10:
richn ...this is for you
you are an honorary ditto head And What are the great accomplishments of the republican party in modern times? I'm having fun watching you guys try to get out of thisHere's a couple - and to be honest I still can't think of a single accomplishment from democrats - the best I can think of is 'they held down the fort' between republican terms...and even that sketchy at best(the truth hurts, 'ditto head' ) (see Democratic accomplishments at the bottom ) Banned Partial Birth Abortion ? by far the most significant roll-back of abortion on demand since Roe v. Wade.. Supports the Defense of Marriage Act ? and a Constitutional amendment saying marriage is between one man and one woman. Requires districts to let students transfer out of dangerous schools. Signed two income tax cuts, one of which was the largest dollar-value tax cut in world history. Supports permanent elimination of the death tax. Turned around an inherited economy that was in recession, and deeply shocked as a result of the 9/11 attacks. Increased small business incentives to expand and to hire new people. Killed Clinton's "ergonomic" rules that OSHA was about to implement; rules would have shut down every home business in America. Passed tough new laws to hold corporate criminals to account as a result of corporate scandals. Provided $20 million to states to help people with disabilities work from home. Created a fund to encourage technologies that help the disabled. Grant a complete tax exemption for prepaid or college tuition savings plans. Reduced H1B visas from a high of 195,000 per year to 66,000 per year. Announced "Jobs for the 21st Century," a comprehensive plan to better prepare workers for jobs in the new millennium by strengthening post-secondary education and job training, and by improving high school education. Is working to provide vouchers to low-income students in persistently failing schools to help with costs of attending private schools. (Blocked in the Senate.) Requires school-by-school accountability report cards. Established a $2.4 billion fund to help states implement teacher accountability systems. Killed the Kyoto Global Warming Treaty. Submitted a comprehensive Energy Plan (awaits Congressional action). The plan works to develop cleaner technology, produce more natural gas here at home, make America less dependent on foreign sources of energy, improve national grid, etc. Established a $10 million grant program to promote private conservation initiatives. Killed Clinton's CO2 rules that were choking off all of the electricity surplus to California Disarmed Libya of its chemical, nuclear and biological WMD's without bribes or bloodshed.. Killed the old US/Soviet Union ABM Treaty that was preventing the U.S. from deploying our ABM defenses. Has been one of the strongest, if not THE strongest friend Israel has ever hand in the U.S. presidency. Pushed through THREE raises for our military. Increased military pay by more than $1 billion a year. Signed the LARGEST nuclear arms reduction in world history with Russia. Started withdrawing our troops from Bosnia, and has announced withdrawal of our troops from Germany and the Korean DMZ. Prohibited putting U.S. troops under U.N. command. Paid back UN dues only in return for reforms and reduction of U.S. share of the costs. Earmarked at least 20 percent of the Defense procurement budget for next-generation weaponry. Increased defense research and development spending by at least $20 billion from fiscal 2002 to 2006. Ordered a comprehensive review of military weapons and strategy. Ordered renovation of military housing. The military has already upgraded about 10 percent of its Is working to tighten restrictions on military-technology exports. Brought back our EP-3 intel plane and crew from China without any bribes or bloodshed. Killed U.S. involvement in the International Criminal Court. Told the United Nations we weren't interested in their plans for gun control (i.e., the International Ban on Small Arms Trafficking Treaty).* The only President since the founding of the UN to essentially tell that organization it is irrelevant. He said: "The conduct of the Iraqi regime is a threat to the authority of the United Nations, and a threat to peace. Iraq has answered a decade of UN demands with a decade of defiance. All the world now faces a test, and the United Nations a difficult and defining moment. Are Security Council resolutions to be honored and enforced, or cast aside without consequence? Will the United Nations serve the purpose of its founding, or will it be irrelevant?" We all know the outcome and the answer. Told the Congress and the world, "America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our country." Democrat accomplishments since taking over in 2007 to present. Added $4.5 trillion the the national debt, $2.5 of which has been added just since Obama has take office. Obama's annual average spending is within $200 billion of George Bush's first full 4 years in office. I did not bother to go into the Clinton saga of banking simply because George Bush was just as much in favor of doing this as was Bill Clinton. If you don't believe this google "American Dream Act" Bush signed a $200 billion package designed to help those that could not afford to purchase a home.
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OK - what have democrats done besides murder women by driving them off chappaquiddick bridges, screwing around on their spouses or running prostitution rings out of their wash dc apartments?
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They didn't vote for John McCain...
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SurSteven:
They didn't vote for John McCain...
That's right - for Dems it's all about what they didn't do
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rich n:
mustangsally10:
richn ...this is for you
you are an honorary ditto head And What are the great accomplishments of the republican party in modern times? I'm having fun watching you guys try to get out of thisHere's a couple ... Supports the Defense of Marriage Act ? and a Constitutional amendment...
You consider that an accomplisment? I thought it was an act of hate, myself. Not to mention that it was a helluva brilliant strategy to get even the most buck-toothed hillbillies to voting booths to ensure Bush's first (almost honest) election in 2004.