The ..2012.... Political thread
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appletart2:
Insurance company pay out less than 3% to fire damage claims. Why do we have a fire dept that cost us 950 per fireman a day. Not to include all there retirement programs.
Think about it... if their day off, is the day your house is burning down, I think you would feel very different about that.... just sayin... You can't ask someone to work only when there's a fire... or do you just not have firemen and whatever burns...burns...
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nijenna67:
All I know is I don't know how my great grandmother and her family even lived in their day! No NOTHING to help them. What scares me is it is only getting worse with our growing population, how are we going to survive all the with all the needs we have now? We all need so much now.
That's why I think my neighbor with 4 kids should pay more taxes than I do with no kids. It may deter him from having another. Too many people...
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Altanon:
appletart2:
Geez I rearranged a few letters in Bohners name and it gets bleeped.
The trick to defeating the bleeper is substituting foreign letters that LOOK like the English ones: For example: Fuçk, Suçk, Çunt, Shït, and Åsshole This page shows how to insert the special characters: http://www.yellowpipe.com/yis/tools/ALT-Characters/index.php#ALT_Character_Example
You forgot the dirtiest one: PÅlin.
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love2travel:
appletart2:
Insurance company pay out less than 3% to fire damage claims. Why do we have a fire dept that cost us 950 per fireman a day. Not to include all there retirement programs.
Think about it... if their day off, is the day your house is burning down, I think you would feel very different about that.... just sayin... You can't ask someone to work only when there's a fire... or do you just not have firemen and whatever burns...burns...
this is a actual quote from a Fire Chief. It way cheaper for the government to just cut a check for any fire damage than to keep a full time fire dept staffed. They'd save trillions. The cost to keep Firemen sitting around is huge. Its a scam. The Democrats(yes I said it) are funding cops and fire dept and teacher for votes. That the problem. They used to keep a skeleton crew, older trucks and get paid X's. Today there staffed fully with all these guys just sitting around pulling down over 100,000. Plus the benny's.. They can retire at 53 (you can't even get Medicare until 65. They go on more medical calls than fire. Here in Washington they send a fire truck out with every 911 call. why? Oh you know there might be a 900lb person needing lifting. : If it was privatized there be one, just not 10 guys for every one guy needed just sitting around doing nothing and a whole lot cheaper to run.. Here is a place government should be cut. Not health care.
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Obama's jetset fitness trainer helps shed pounds, adds to global warming By J.P. Freire Created Feb 28 2011 - 12:31pm With a schedule as hectic as President Obama's it must be hard to stick to a training regimen without help -- but why does he insist on having his old trainer fly out from Chicago to D.C. regularly when Obama and his wife exhort the rest of us to drive less? And in a recession? According to Ashley Parker at the New York Times, Obama's fitness czar Cornell McClellan comes out to D.C. every week: complete article: http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/2011/02/obamas-jetset-fitness-trainer-helps-shed-pounds-adds-ozone
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SurSteven:
jaipur:
Don't know why, my sense is this was going on long before "no child left behind", though I don't think it did what it was intended to do. Part of it too is that many generations don't feel the need to learn anything at all....if you need to know something, just google it.
"Part of it too is that many generations don't feel the need to learn anything at all" I know people who work harder than any rightwing supporter on this board...and they still can't afford health insurance for their families without relying on social health insurance...like rightwingers do.
And what makes you believe that those who have "social health insurance" are all "left wingers". Medicaid does not require that you reveal your political tendencies to be covered. So this notion that only "left wingers" are on "social health insurance" is nonsense. btw, my impression is that "left wingers who were lobbying for a public option" should be satisfied with Medicaid coverage....it's better than nothing at all.
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appletart2:
love2travel:
appletart2:
Insurance company pay out less than 3% to fire damage claims. Why do we have a fire dept that cost us 950 per fireman a day. Not to include all there retirement programs.
Think about it... if their day off, is the day your house is burning down, I think you would feel very different about that.... just sayin... You can't ask someone to work only when there's a fire... or do you just not have firemen and whatever burns...burns...
this is a actual quote from a Fire Chief. It way cheaper for the government to just cut a check for any fire damage than to keep a full time fire dept staffed. They'd save trillions. The cost to keep Firemen sitting around is huge. Its a scam. The Democrats(yes I said it) are funding cops and fire dept and teacher for votes. That the problem. They used to keep a skeleton crew, older trucks and get paid X's. Today there staffed fully with all these guys just sitting around pulling down over 100,000. Plus the benny's.. They can retire at 53 (you can't even get Medicare until 65. They go on more medical calls than fire. Here in Washington they send a fire truck out with every 911 call. why? Oh you know there might be a 900lb person needing lifting. : If it was privatized there be one, just not 10 guys for every one guy needed just sitting around doing nothing and a whole lot cheaper to run.. Here is a place government should be cut. Not health care.
I would suggest that just because Washington does things a certain way, does not mean the other 49 do likewise On the east coast there are "volunteer" firemen...meaning the town does not pay them a salary. Also I have heard a number of times how some public sector employees in other states can "retire" at an early age and collect full benefits. That simply is not true in all states. You can retire at that age but you do not collect full benefits....at least not in the state I live in. Are there abuses?? of course....just as there are abuses in the private sector. You need both sectors in this country.
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jaipur:
SurSteven:
jaipur:
Don't know why, my sense is this was going on long before "no child left behind", though I don't think it did what it was intended to do. Part of it too is that many generations don't feel the need to learn anything at all....if you need to know something, just google it.
"Part of it too is that many generations don't feel the need to learn anything at all" I know people who work harder than any rightwing supporter on this board...and they still can't afford health insurance for their families without relying on social health insurance...like rightwingers do.
And what makes you believe that those who have "social health insurance" are all "left wingers". Medicaid does not require that you reveal your political tendencies to be covered. So this notion that only "left wingers" are on "social health insurance" is nonsense. btw, my impression is that "left wingers who were lobbying for a public option" should be satisfied with Medicaid coverage....it's better than nothing at all.
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SurSteven:
jaipur:
Don't know why, my sense is this was going on long before "no child left behind", though I don't think it did what it was intended to do. Part of it too is that many generations don't feel the need to learn anything at all....if you need to know something, just google it.
"Part of it too is that many generations don't feel the need to learn anything at all" I know people who work harder than any rightwing supporter on this board...and they still can't afford health insurance for their families without relying on social health insurance...like rightwingers do.
How in the world do you have any idea how hard every single right wing supporter on this board works? This is yet another example of the way so many of the left wing supporters on this board make totally unsubstantiated assumptions that reveal their biases.
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EADG:
SurSteven:
jaipur:
Don't know why, my sense is this was going on long before "no child left behind", though I don't think it did what it was intended to do. Part of it too is that many generations don't feel the need to learn anything at all....if you need to know something, just google it.
"Part of it too is that many generations don't feel the need to learn anything at all" I know people who work harder than any rightwing supporter on this board...and they still can't afford health insurance for their families without relying on social health insurance...like rightwingers do.
How in the world do you have any idea how hard every single right wing supporter on this board works? This is yet another example of the way so many of the left wing supporters on this board make totally unsubstantiated assumptions that reveal their biases.
"On the east coast there are "volunteer" firemen...meaning the town does not pay them a salary." ~ Jaipur The town should be ashamed of themselves
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Why?? A small town doesn't need firemen hanging around the firehouse on salary....just as apples mentioned a few posts ago. btw what is wrong with Medicaid?? I don't see a reply yet. This is one of the democrats successes....that was stated a few posts ago.
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jaipur:
Why?? A small town doesn't need firemen hanging around the firehouse on salary....just as apples mentioned a few posts ago. btw what is wrong with Medicaid?? I don't see a reply yet. This is one of the democrats successes....that was stated a few posts ago.
obviously i didn't say that there was anything wrong with social services for them who really could use it
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Donald Rumsfeld should be ashamed of himself. Absolutely ashamed. There is no defense for the lies he helped create for that bull-sh-t Iraq war -- but now he's even selling out Bush by re-writing the facts in his his new book. Back when they were shoving the big lie down our throats (which Senator Obama recognized immediately was horse-puckey), Rumsfeld affirmed that there was "bullet-proof" evidence of ties between Saddam Hussein and Al Qaeda. His new book (located in the Fiction section) says there was never tangible evidence. American arrogance is going to do this country in.
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SurSteven:
jaipur:
Why?? A small town doesn't need firemen hanging around the firehouse on salary....just as apples mentioned a few posts ago. btw what is wrong with Medicaid?? I don't see a reply yet. This is one of the democrats successes....that was stated a few posts ago.
obviously i didn't say that there was anything wrong with social services for them who really could use it
Medicaid isn't "social services". Of course you didn't say anything.....we are left to interpret your "criptic" emoticons that you hide behind. As EADG mentioned, you can't apparently substantiate your obvious insinuations. that you can't substantiate
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jaipur:
SurSteven:
jaipur:
Why?? A small town doesn't need firemen hanging around the firehouse on salary....just as apples mentioned a few posts ago. btw what is wrong with Medicaid?? I don't see a reply yet. This is one of the democrats successes....that was stated a few posts ago.
obviously i didn't say that there was anything wrong with social services for them who really could use it
Medicaid isn't "social services". Of course you didn't say anything.....we are left to interpret your "criptic" emoticons that you hide behind. As EADG mentioned, you can't apparently substantiate your obvious insinuations. that you can't substantiate
So, basically Jaipur and EADG feel that taxpayer paid insurance premiums should favor high income republicans over low income democratic working people?
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Perhaps you might learn more about Medicaid...it is not insurance and those enrolled do not pay premiums. It is available to those who meet the income requirements. btw along the lines of the affordable care act Medicaid will expand over the next few years to provide coverage for Americans. And despite your assertion it is available to all Americans who meet the requirements, not simply (your description) "low democratic working people" I find your description obnoxious.
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SurSteven:
jaipur:
SurSteven:
jaipur:
Why?? A small town doesn't need firemen hanging around the firehouse on salary....just as apples mentioned a few posts ago. btw what is wrong with Medicaid?? I don't see a reply yet. This is one of the democrats successes....that was stated a few posts ago.
obviously i didn't say that there was anything wrong with social services for them who really could use it
Medicaid isn't "social services". Of course you didn't say anything.....we are left to interpret your "criptic" emoticons that you hide behind. As EADG mentioned, you can't apparently substantiate your obvious insinuations. that you can't substantiate
So, basically Jaipur and EADG feel that taxpayer paid insurance premiums should favor high income republicans over low income democratic working people?
jaipur:
Perhaps you might learn more about Medicaid...it is not insurance and those enrolled do not pay premiums. It is available to those who meet the income requirements. btw along the lines of the affordable care act Medicaid will expand over the next few years to provide coverage for Americans. And despite your assertion it is available to all Americans who meet the requirements, not simply (your description) "low democratic working people" I find your description obnoxious.
Everyone pays for medical benefits...some more by percentage of income than others...I find your economic perceptions rather nauseating and narcissist.
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jaipur:
Why?? A small town doesn't need firemen hanging around the firehouse on salary....just as apples mentioned a few posts ago. btw what is wrong with Medicaid?? I don't see a reply yet. This is one of the democrats successes....that was stated a few posts ago.
Fireman's salaries are small potatoes compared to the MIC. The US spends 19.3 % of it's budget on military. People sitting around and shuffling paper waiting to fight. And then when people do decide to attack us (9/11) they fail miserably. I think we could reduce our military budget substantially and still take care of threats as they appear. It just takes being responsive and not ignoring threats as bushco did. http://www.visualeconomics.com/how-countries-spend-their-money/ US priorities are messed up.. but we're working on it
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Just say "No" to a Standing Army!
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It won't be the first time .... it won't be the last .... more people could probably tell you what is going on with Charlie Sheen than what their Government is doing ... or for that matter who are some of your representatives are .... the names change along the way ..... Brittany, Lindsey, Ashton, Madonna, Jane, Sean,Elizabeth, Carey, Rock ......etc etc.....